The Toronto Maple Leafs also do not have a 500 goal scorer.Lol
A one time 50 goal scorer
So you think he is seriously going to end up with 70 or more
Not a high bar since you are the only original 6 franchise that doesn’t even have a 500 goal scorer. Hell Joe Pavelskis sharks tenure would be second all time in New York.
There are teams 60 years younger that have a higher all time goal scorer the bar for New York is really that low as a franchise
He has 304 goals and is 33 calm down junior
Pavelski has over 1,000pts Kreider has 550 he isn’t getting another 500 pts in 5 years. Kreider is maybe a borderline hall of famer for the rangers hall of fame (having incredibly low standards help his case)
But the nhl hall of fame he doesn’t sniff it.
It’s wild that we never got a truly amazing center though. Stepan was the best one in like… two decades. Maybe longer?
That's kind of shortsighted. Datsyuk didn't do great his first few playoff runs, but Detroit never would have won another Cup without him.
He 100% counts as a player we developed. Drafted by us, spent time in Hartford and NY, had back to back 20+ goal seasons. Just because he didn’t hit his peak here doesn’t mean he wasn’t a forward we developed.
Once again when it comes to drafting and development if you have to point to a bunch of retired players drafted 20 or more years ago (with Moore being drafted back in 2000 lol) as a way to prove you have good drafting and development then your argument is pretty shit.
Rangers development is so great that Miller and Buchnevich went from middle 6 players to becoming first line forwards the moment they joined a different team.
A lot of players take time to mature. Snd it’s not always the team that drafted them that sees the player finally figure everything out and become a high end guy. Rangers have Lafreniere figuring it out early. But then there are Kakko and Chytle who need more time. Can they afford to wait for those two or do they move them for older guys who are fully developed even if a bit lower ceiling?
I love Kreider and respect where you're coming from, but he needs to win some hardware (preferably a Cup). You'd have a much stronger case had he won the Rocket Richard that 52-goal year.
You claimed the Rangers don’t have a good history of developing players, so I looked at the last 15 years or so to see if that claim was true. It wasn’t. What did you want me to do? Look at the last 3 years? Derp?
Is edmonton in better shape? Nope. What if they lose draisaitl? They have no goalie and currently own the worst contract in hockey.
One of the dumbest things I have read on this board, and I’ve been reading these boards from when they were hockeyboards and fanhome.
When the rangers didnt have a coach. You guys use that cup as cope for why fitz plan can work.
Enjoy your regular seasons since you can't do anything come playoffs
Dude, you really have to stop talking. You're making it way too easy for people here.
The Rangers had absolutely zero to do with Shesterkin’s development, what are you talking about. The guy was 24 when he came over and had already put up a .935 sv% over 6 years in the KHL.One of the dumbest things I have read on this board, and I’ve been reading these boards from when they were hockeyboards and fanhome.
What you’re saying here is when Igor came to NY, he was a finished product. Benoit Allaire, one of the greatest NHL goalie coaches of all time, didn’t help develop his game at all. Same applies for Lundqvist since he was a similar age as Igor when he made his debut here. Yet, both players go out of their way to credit Benny for improving every aspect of their game. I guess f*** what they say. You obviously know better than them. Right?
You shit on the Rangers for not developing both goalies because they were already in their mid 20’s before they started playing the best hockey in their career, but also discredit the Rangers at the same time with guys like JTM and Buch, who started doing the same at a similar age.
You’re all over the place. Even Devils fans who have a god given right to hate us don’t post nonsense like this.
There is no edict from god that says players do not continue developing in their mid 20's. Shesterkin may have come here already being a good goalie - but that doesn't mean Allaire didn't further develop various aspects of his game. The purpose of that post though wasn't to highlight that, but rather to point out the other posters double standards.
Lavi had a horror show of a playoffs? Haha can you explain how? The rangers got to the ECF and losing the series 4-2 to what will be the cup champs in 6 one goal games, 3 OT games.Lmao, the same issues popped under Lavi that did under Gallant v Florida. Lavi also had a horror show of a playoffs behind the bench because he decided to play your boy in your avatar for 4 mins instead of getting an actual skater who can make a difference. But keep using the same childish comeback since you have nothing else. You shat on the Devils core as if they didn't beat you the year prior. And the Devils got dummied? They lost 3 1 goal games prior to empty nets goals being scored
