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Josh Bailey! GAME ONE, TO THE ISLAND!!!
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So aquire all good pieces and get rid of bad ones right? In reality it is going to be Ziba-Trochek with underperforming wingers for the next 5 wasted Shesterkin years just like it was Stepan - Brassard back then.What package of Rangers - reasonably speaking - would bring Brady Tkachuk to New York? Then add Sam Bennett for the Middle Six. Finally, acquire Joel Edmundson and/or another d-man of similar size and style.
So Panarin is dead weight now is heTrouba, Mika and to an extent Panarin’s contracts are major anchors… can’t get anywhere with 3 deadweight players in the playoffs.
Pegula didn't want to trade him there, but I agree.Probably should have ponied up for Eichel. Instead of pearl clutching over their long list of "untouchable prospects", some of whom have already been traded away for spare parts.
I don't have that hope after how we wasted Lundqvist, lol.I think they’re gonna feel like they always have a chance at the cup with Igor.
People will laugh but it’s the truth… some times the weaker team advances and that was the case with the Rangers round 2 win over the Canes.
Man, NYR just can't catch a break. Either the Canes were way too easy or were the better team and should have advanced. As long as we can put an asterisk next to the Rangers beating them (again) somehow, I guess.NY's 1st 2 rounds were too easy. They were not ready for the Panthers.
Rangers just own Carolina in the playoffs. It's a mental thing. That being said, the Rangers were better in the Carolina series than against Florida.People will laugh but it’s the truth… some times the weaker team advances and that was the case with the Rangers round 2 win over the Canes.
I assume they'll do what they always do and just throw money at the biggest UFA's available and hope it works out.
They're a good team, no way around it. Overachieved this year imo, knew Lavi would be a great hire and he was. Instilled some structure and accountability. But...
IMO they're stuck in this good enough to compete, contend, be relevant but not serious Cup contenders. Put them first in the 2nd tier, something like that.
Now... they cannot expect anyone to get that much better outside of Laf who took a major step this year, was dead wrong on him being a career 3rd liner ceiling. But outside of him who can you realistically expect to get better? I believe we've seen the ceiling of Panarin, Zib, Kreider, Fox, their big "stars".
Something has to give bc they've demonstrated this "core" isn't good enough to compete with the East elite when push comes to shove. Got a fortunate draw in '21 with the injuries to Pens goalies and Sid but still couldn't get by TB. Lost to NJ first round with a team that imo was worse than this year's offering. And this year got another fortunate draw by virtue of being 1st in the reg szn but still couldn't get by FL. Some tough decisions will need to be made but if are content w/ standing pat and thinking this current group is good enough to win the Cup, they're in for what the Yankees have been the last few years.
There are other issues. For example, Lafreniere not getting PP time despite being the team's best ES player for much of the year, and also being the best ES forward on the team in playoffs. This is especially grating due to the team's PP struggles.The Character Issues in the room should be a prime concern. You don't just give up in an ECF. Something ain't right with this roster.
Lineup and usage issues. Easilly can be handled by coaching and adjustments. Normal stuff.There are other issues. For example, Lafreniere not getting PP time despite being the team's best ES player for much of the year, and also being the best ES forward on the team in playoffs. This is especially grating due to the team's PP struggles.
You’re gonna have to include Perrault lol especially with that dump of a Trouba contractTrouba for cap purposes and literally whatever Ottawa wants for Brady Tkachuk to NYR
the next 3 1st round picks, Othmann and whatever other prospect they want not named Perreault
Tampa had every thing needed for the cupThe Rangers made it to the ECF twice in 3 years; no reason to blow it all up. Something the best move is to run it back with some tweaks; imagine if Tampa management had listened to HF after 2019 and traded everyone.
IMO, the team has 3 glaring problems that can be addressed:
1- A hole at top 6 RW. They don't need a star there, just a guy who can hang at that level and be a contributor at EV. Ideally with some size and speed; the Rangers top 6 could use an injection of athleticism.
2- The 3rd line. Championship teams can roll at least 3 dangerous, effective lines. The Rangers spent the whole postseason with a 3rd line of JAGs, a zero net-impact line. A healthy Chytil/improved Kakko could solve that problem. If neither of those things happen, Rangers will need to acquire someone; I don't think they have anyone in the AHL who could realistically play that role next year.
3- The D. At the very least, Trouba needs to be shipped out, even if they need to use assets as a sweetener. You can have a bad Dman on your roster, but not a bad Dman paid 8M. The team could use a solid top 4 guy, but then again, so does every single team in the league. They'll probably have to live with promoting Zac Jones and signing a good 3rd pair guy to replace Gustafsson. Which shouldn't be a problem, if they can get rid of Trouba.
The Rangers are in a pretty good spot for a contender. No major cap crunch this offseason, so they still have the cap space and assets to address issues.
Generational level cope lmaoRangers are in very good shape once they get past next season. They will be very active come July 2025. It’s one of the worst kept secrets in NHL circles that theyre gearing up to take a run at draisaitl. And while people wanna pretend all agents dont talk to GM’s ahead of time, I wish I could be that trustworthy and naive.
Come July 2025 the rangers likely no longer have Kreider, Trouba, Goodrow, Kakko, Chytil, Lindgren and possibly panarin. They cant get rid of mika because the NMC
Lafreniere-Draisaitl-Perrault
Panarin-Mika-Boeser
Cuylle-Trocheck-Berard
Othmann-Rempe-Edstrom
Kandre-Fox
Shea Theodore-Schneider
Jones- Vet 6D
Igor
Garand
That’s if they don’t trade Igor in a blockbuster deal this summer. What does the goalie market look like?Shesterkin should break the Goalie market. I expect an extension July 1st which will kick in for the 2025-26 season and likely be north of $11 million. We're looking at about a $5 million AAV difference against the cap when that kicks in. If they keep Lafreniere around, he'll want a big extension off his bridge as well. They should have tried to extend him for longer last offseason, but couldn't because no cap. Given their Forward core is otherwise quite old, it's probably next year or bust. Other teams with more cap and more in terms of young incoming talent (higher recent draft picks) will likely surpass them by then, and they'll still probably be good enough to make the Playoffs for a bit, but not be much of a threat for more.
They got swept one year though. Was that before Vasi and Point?Tampa had every thing needed for the cup
Elite wingers in Kucherov
Elite Centers in Stamkos and Point
Elite Dmen in Hedman,
Elite goalie in Vasi
And unlike the rangers group that constantly disappears, Tampas group actually showed up in the playoffs year in and year out
I agree except with the 2 ECF in 3 years, pres trophy, the best goaltender in the world, 1OA on the cusp of exploding, 120 point winger, norris defenseman? You don't blow that up.
They're a couple pieces away. The problem is, the pieces that they're missing they won't be able to fit under the cap. Barclay Goodrow buyout is essentially a lock at this point, and that's just gonna cover raises to Schneider and Lindgren. Schneider isn't going anywhere but I think letting Lindgren walk may unfortunately be a necessary move. Let Zac Jones cook in that spot and there's your mobile puck moving dman we were missing in the Florida series.
See if you can get Gustafsson back on a 3x$2.5M and that allows you to pick up a big fish defenseman at the deadline for 50% off
Pre deadline:
Fox-Miller
Trouba-Gus
Schneider-Jones
Post deadline:
Same but replace Jones/Gus with someone more studly at a 50% cap hit