Where did Yzerman go wrong with the rebuild?
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Gniwder
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Why panic, the team hasn't made the playoff in 8 seasons. With a bunch of crappy contracts on the books for the next 2 seasons, it might not be a bad idea to tank one more time before Kasper/Danielson/Cossa/ASP get promoted. The team is first round fodder at best.
Pretty easy to finish last place, just start Husso every game.
AlwaysSunnyInDetroit
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honestly, i won't be mad if we miss the playoffs this year
1. let the kids crush it in their respective leagues, compete for championships
2. get another top 10 pick
3. let kane, petry, maatta, husso, lyon, fischer, motte contracts expire. leave enough cap space to cover kane's bonus this season
4. keep sending holl up and down in the hopes that someone claims him at some point
5. staple a 2nd to copp to make him go away
6. let lalonde's contract expire. hire someone new
7. have almost $18m in cap space to sign a superstar free agent
8. have the courage to promote 9 rookies next year, roll with this lineup
debrincat - larkin - raymond
mazur - kasper - tarasenko
berggren - danielson - brandsegg-nygard
soderblom - compher - rasmussen
veleno
johansson - seider
edvinsson - sandin-pellikka
chiarot - tuomisto
wallinder - gustafsson
talbot
cossa
1. let the kids crush it in their respective leagues, compete for championships
2. get another top 10 pick
3. let kane, petry, maatta, husso, lyon, fischer, motte contracts expire. leave enough cap space to cover kane's bonus this season
4. keep sending holl up and down in the hopes that someone claims him at some point
5. staple a 2nd to copp to make him go away
6. let lalonde's contract expire. hire someone new
7. have almost $18m in cap space to sign a superstar free agent
8. have the courage to promote 9 rookies next year, roll with this lineup
debrincat - larkin - raymond
mazur - kasper - tarasenko
berggren - danielson - brandsegg-nygard
soderblom - compher - rasmussen
veleno
johansson - seider
edvinsson - sandin-pellikka
chiarot - tuomisto
wallinder - gustafsson
talbot
cossa
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Gniwder
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I'm beginning to think that's what Stevie needs to do. All of these garbage UFA signings are at best gonna make this into a bubble team. Tear it all down and restart with prospects.
I don't think Soderblom and Tuo are gonna make any NHL roster though.
No way yzerman plays 9 rookies next year and we wouldn't be any where near the cap
32 saves for arvid soderblom and jets just ruined his shut out with a minute left lmao was about to say we grabbed the wrong soderblom... jinxed him haha
32 saves for arvid soderblom and jets just ruined his shut out with a minute left lmao was about to say we grabbed the wrong soderblom... jinxed him haha
Compher like first center like are mine expectancy. Larkin traded away from the team building. We need Compher, Rasmussen, Kasper, Veleno, Danielson and Copp like centers. We need a strong scoring defenseman. A strong defenseman, Seider, Chiarot, Määttä, Petry, Gustafsson, Johansson, Sandin-Pellikka and Raymond, Kane, DeBrincat, Tarasenko, Fischer, Motte, Berggren and goalies Talbot, Husso and Cossa.
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Gniwder
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If Elmer is scared to get hit, he should've played goalie like his brother. He treats the puck like a hot potato in the D zone, it hasn't changed, and he'll be back in the SHL next season.
He's just not mentally tough enough for the NHL. It's a shame, but it was worth the shot they took at #159 in the draft.
Pavels Dog
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I mean half of that is probably happening even if we have a good season and either make the playoffs or get very close.
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Get off my lawn
SirKillalot
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Can we maybe pitch Petry to Toronto for Liljegren in return?
I'm sure he'd want to go to a outlier contender and why not take a flier on Liljegren?
His value is low, not been bad, can take some steps or potentially increase his value and gets traded elsewhere later on.
I'm sure he'd want to go to a outlier contender and why not take a flier on Liljegren?
His value is low, not been bad, can take some steps or potentially increase his value and gets traded elsewhere later on.
TheOctopusKid
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It seems like there are a number of rotating veterans on going contracts until the respective prospect is ready to take over the role?
Next year (out):
Kane (Top 6 Playmaking Winger) - Kasper In
Fischer (Checking line winger) - Mazur In
Motte (Checking line winger) - Danielsson In
Maatta (Bottom 4 LHD) - Resign Johansson
Husso (Trebuchet ammunition) - Resign Lyon
Petry (Bottom 4 RHD) - Carry 7D
2026
Tarasenko out - MBN In
Chairot Out - Sandin-Pellikka In
Holl Out - Wallinder In
Talbot or Lyon out - Cossa in
Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond
MBN - Danielsson - Compher
Mazur - Kasper - Berggren
Rasmussen - Copp - Veleno
Unknown - Seider
Edvinsson - Sandin-Pellikka
Johansson - Unknown
Wallinder
Talbot - Cossa
I don't think this will be actually what comes out barring trade, FAs, etc. but the point is that the time when we are losing key pieces out of our lineup from these bridge deal with veterans - we will have a corresponding prospect who is earmarked to role pretty seamlessly. And if and when someone isn't ready, it's easy enough to extend the timeline by a year to find another random plug till the kid is ready. It is not coincidental that a lot of these contract plugs are all gone within 2 years about the time we would expect the vast majority of the next waves of prospects to step in.
All of this makes sense and Im pretty excited about the next two seasons! It's going to be awesome to watch these guys get up and start figuring it out for good or for bad. it feel like there is still some holes that need to be filled (maybe a true 1LHD to pair with Seider or Top Six Winger) - but I would be shocked if someone of significance wasn't added in FA or Trade and this was all homegrown like this.
Next year (out):
Kane (Top 6 Playmaking Winger) - Kasper In
Fischer (Checking line winger) - Mazur In
Motte (Checking line winger) - Danielsson In
Maatta (Bottom 4 LHD) - Resign Johansson
Husso (Trebuchet ammunition) - Resign Lyon
Petry (Bottom 4 RHD) - Carry 7D
2026
Tarasenko out - MBN In
Chairot Out - Sandin-Pellikka In
Holl Out - Wallinder In
Talbot or Lyon out - Cossa in
Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond
MBN - Danielsson - Compher
Mazur - Kasper - Berggren
Rasmussen - Copp - Veleno
Unknown - Seider
Edvinsson - Sandin-Pellikka
Johansson - Unknown
Wallinder
Talbot - Cossa
I don't think this will be actually what comes out barring trade, FAs, etc. but the point is that the time when we are losing key pieces out of our lineup from these bridge deal with veterans - we will have a corresponding prospect who is earmarked to role pretty seamlessly. And if and when someone isn't ready, it's easy enough to extend the timeline by a year to find another random plug till the kid is ready. It is not coincidental that a lot of these contract plugs are all gone within 2 years about the time we would expect the vast majority of the next waves of prospects to step in.
All of this makes sense and Im pretty excited about the next two seasons! It's going to be awesome to watch these guys get up and start figuring it out for good or for bad. it feel like there is still some holes that need to be filled (maybe a true 1LHD to pair with Seider or Top Six Winger) - but I would be shocked if someone of significance wasn't added in FA or Trade and this was all homegrown like this.
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GarlicbreadTB
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The drafted talent Brandsegg-Nygård was not okay draft from the start according to my first statements, but we need more wing forwards, then the Norwegian will get the chance?
AlwaysSunnyInDetroit
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i've considered smoking meth but i'm reluctant to pull the trigger
in your experience, what would you say are the pros and cons?
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