When does the Yzerplan start getting criticized?

[FMichael]

For Detroit fans every one of their prospects could turn into a superstar and can’t be judged for the 1st 8 years

Because wait maaaaaybe they develop into one….

How do you argue that the forward group you are building is going to be elite, with realistic reasonings?

You don’t have a single superstar forward, your 1C is at his mid prime and not a high end 1C and the chances of him suddenly turning into one are quite low. Kane& Tarasenko are old and past their prime

Raymond is the best bet and he’s so far away from getting into McDavid/Drai/Mackinnon/Kucherov etc tier

It looks like the Carolina group with less quality depth, no game breakers to win the big games

Shit happens man.

 

[Leafshater67]

if Edvinsson is 2 or 3 notches above Sanderson he is one of the best defenceman ever.

congrats i guess.

He is. Generational.

Sanderson may be a number 1 right now but we know who the true GOAT is.

 

[Pavels Dog]

being 23rd overall is a lot different than 4th and 6th.

Poitras is a beauty. He is only 20 has 18 points in 40 games. Only 4 players from his draft year have scored more points. All four of them have played more games.

Johnston still isn't relevant when the topic of discussion is guys outside the 1st round. Especially when both Edvinsson and Cossa look like terrific picks in their own right.

Poitras is a nice 2nd rounder, but I'm pretty confident in saying he wouldn't be in the NHL if he was drafted by the Wings. The fact he's 5th in points mostly just says it's far too early to start looking at NHL impacts from the 2022 draft.

He done goofed passing on Mattias Maccelli

Whenever you are comparing the drafting of 31 teams combined vs. 1 team, that 1 team is always going to look outmatched.
Yes, Coyotes made a good pick with Maccelli. They also drafted Victor Söderström in the 1st round that same draft. Their top pick in 2020 was Mitchell Miller. I think I take Seider+Raymond over that. But apparently it's more important to make one good 2nd round picks than to hit on multiple 1sts.

 

[SantosHalper]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5860549/2024/10/22/nhl-front-office-rankings/
In the top-10
1. Dallas Stars (251)
2. Tampa Bay Lightning (187)
3. Florida Panthers (173)
4. Vegas Golden Knights (117)
5. Boston Bruins (87)
6. Colorado Avalanche (51)
7. New Jersey Devils (29)
8. Carolina Hurricanes (21)
9. New York Rangers (20)
10. Detroit Red Wings (17)

First-place vote: 10 points. Second: 7 points. Third: 5 points. Fourth: 3 points. Fifth: 1 point.

 

[Czechboy]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5860549/2024/10/22/nhl-front-office-rankings/
In the top-10
1. Dallas Stars (251)
2. Tampa Bay Lightning (187)
3. Florida Panthers (173)
4. Vegas Golden Knights (117)
5. Boston Bruins (87)
6. Colorado Avalanche (51)
7. New Jersey Devils (29)
8. Carolina Hurricanes (21)
9. New York Rangers (20)
10. Detroit Red Wings (17)

First-place vote: 10 points. Second: 7 points. Third: 5 points. Fourth: 3 points. Fifth: 1 point.

I am assuming 30 but can you please tell me where the Oilers are on this?

 

[RedHawkDown]

This season.. was referring to his historic deployment last season . It was legendariky tough but he didn't have legendary results. I'm a fan. I blame Yzerman for not surrounding him with enough talent. This year seems like better deployment. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets himself into a Norris nod at some point.

fyi he has the same deployment this season. he's just better and is playing with edvinsson who is 10000x better than the rest of our D and any partner he's ever had before