What's your ideal TDL acquisition for us?

[bernmeister]

Barron + Krav are short term answers
deal Strome

 

[rangersfansince08]

lol @ comparing Stome to Tavares. They have nothing in common other than they were once drafted by the same team.

What is Strome even worth to actual playoff contenders? If Strome is good enough to be your 2C you aren't a playoff contender.

 

[jay from jersey]

NO
Chytil is 2C core for immediate future +, stop giving him away
No on Strome walk
did we not learn from Ilses letting Tavares walk?
No on giving up blue chips esp elcs we want to add, not subtract
both on general principle and acknowledging reality of need to deal w/cap



Nils is fine; 111% no to dealing he is only guy on backline with a superior shot.
play Nemeth to accelerate Nils acclimation. Nem has to go by next yr in order to save cap. Hopefully that can happen later this yr. To LA for pick is fine.



No on paying assets most of which are not surplus,
no on giving Strome away for free post season
someone pays now.




for umpteenth time, can not cannibalize young ele core
that thinking has to stop




1. If this team is a serious challenger
Yes it already is but winning Cup means close not enuf, need to dominate if possible, hopefully no injuries, and we beat all challengers.
We might win now, we might not.
We don't deal youth which makes us cap complaint now and extends our window. We continue to draft smart and add, and only when we truly have surplus then do we CAREFULLY consider a splurge.

Coupla teams got our # now.
Patience.
Deal excess vets get down to core.
PLAY THOSE GUYS MO MINS which = increased familiarity = better chemistry which ups our game.

2. If Nils settles in
sufficiently there already
continue to make progress = fine


3. If one or more of our young forwards (Kakko, Laf or Chytil) breaks out.
Already have sufficiently done so.
More good stuff to come.
That none of them = MacKinnon level now, get a grip. Slow but steady here.

4. Is Shesty healthy and ready for a deep run.
No one knows who will be healthy when playoffs arrive.
Pure luck.
Surplus depth helps.

5. Is Mika back to being himself
Mika sufficiently fine now,
Next 4 yrs don't even need to think about him
it's how he ages last half of his deal that is a possible concern
howev, we made our bed, for better or worse...



We can't afford to extend Strome.
PERIOD
every mindset has to bend, buckle and break to that REALITY
Zib + Fox $$ dictates that.
Only way that changes is if Trouba agrees to leave early and that won't happen until MAYBE
MAYBE mid of next season [2023] at earliest
faster we sell Strome w/mo on his contract = larger return



No. Chytil's a keeper at least short term

I’d love to see what your line up looks like going into next season. Especially the blue line

 

[bernmeister]

Oil would move for Price if another team reduces him below the 5.25 at half retained.

1.
a) Krav + Geo + Hajek + NYR 2022 5th
for
Price max retained 50% = 5.25 + ANA 2022 3rd
Habs begin rebuild. Geo as starter fits on paper. krav is signif add. Hajek + lesser pick for 3rd = upgrade + roster spot for NYR

b) expriing Strome retained at half = 2.25 for MON 2022 + 2023 2nds
expiring no retention = later 1st
w/retention = 20OA ish
early 2nd thius yr + late 2nd ballpark enuf
Habs flip to a contender for a later 1st this yr or extend like 5.75 x4
____________

In order to retain on Price this season and next 5, we have no choice we must flip Lindgren; Trouba can be dealt for final 2 yrs of that 5. Again, no choice.

2. Immediately flip Price to Oil eating additional 1.5 per reducing Price hit from 5.25 to 3.75 per.
Oil have to reimburse at min cost to acquire Price PLUS cost to retain further.
Retaining another 1.5 per x 5 = five 6th round picks [Marleau scale]
so NY adds two 2022 4ths [WPG, NYR] to the 5 6ths Oil would add, to get 3 EDM 2nds, years [2023, 2024 and 2025].

Oil pay to acquire Lindgren, offsets loss of Broberg who then send us.
Lindgren for Holloway, a recent mid 1st, is close enuf
Can also use LD Reunanen, ship him as well w/Brodzinski, so they add Lavoie + McLeod. [who are worth more, but included for balance of overall deal, + NY may have to take an expiring contract for cap balance prob Koskinen 4.5]

retained Price + Lindgren + Reunanen + Brodzinski + WPG + NYR 2022 4ths
for
Broberg + Holloway + Lavoie + McLeod + EDM 2nds, years [2023, 2024 and 2025].

===========
Granted, to be comprehensive it may be large, but it does work.

Habs get rebuild underway.
Oil get 5 year high quality net minder stability and a stud LD and immediate LD depth in reunanen

Rangers flip 9OA Krav value for 8OA Broberg, who is not as tough, but a bigger and better skater than Lindgren. Robertson ready to step in after we deal Nemeth.
All boxes checked until Trouba waives so we can add elc Schneider.

NYR runs w/deep young lineup

Goodrow - Zib - Panarin
LaF - Chytil - Gauthier
Kreider - Barron - Kakko
Reaves - Rooney - Hunt

at some pt if Kakko can be tough enuf protector, he may go to 1LW w/Goodrow in and Hunt/Reaves rotating in/out, with currently injured Holloway a speedy bookend w/kreider

Lavoie + McLeod are 2 2nd rounders w/speed + potential adding to Cuylie and Pajuniemi.

D:
Broberg - Fox
KAM - Trouba
Nemeth - Nils
long term:
Robertson - Schneider

if we get a decent pick offer from LA for Nemeth + Nils is ready [about a month to marinate a bit longer] then
bring in Jones, likely to showcase
KAM - Fox
Jones - Trouba
Broberg - Nils
is likely most balanced

G:
Shesty
Get Wall ready
Huska got his cherry popped vs Avalanche juggernaut w/a Ranger team that we all saw could have played better.
Huska ok to replace Geo just have Shesty available for the better teams.

================
You add large # of desirable blue chips and then -- not saying automatically we should, but IF -- IF we decide to add a splurge, we are doing so from position of strength while controling our cap, not the other way around.

 

[bernmeister]

lol @ comparing Stome to Tavares. They have nothing in common other than they were once drafted by the same team.

What is Strome even worth to actual playoff contenders? If Strome is good enough to be your 2C you aren't a playoff contender.

no lol
pls pay attention

pt is you don't give away useful asset for free let him walk for nothing

 

[cheech70]

Oil would move for Price if another team reduces him below the 5.25 at half retained.

1.
a) Krav + Geo + Hajek + NYR 2022 5th
for
Price max retained 50% = 5.25 + ANA 2022 3rd
Habs begin rebuild. Geo as starter fits on paper. krav is signif add. Hajek + lesser pick for 3rd = upgrade + roster spot for NYR

b) expriing Strome retained at half = 2.25 for MON 2022 + 2023 2nds
expiring no retention = later 1st
w/retention = 20OA ish
early 2nd thius yr + late 2nd ballpark enuf
Habs flip to a contender for a later 1st this yr or extend like 5.75 x4
____________

In order to retain on Price this season and next 5, we have no choice we must flip Lindgren; Trouba can be dealt for final 2 yrs of that 5. Again, no choice.

2. Immediately flip Price to Oil eating additional 1.5 per reducing Price hit from 5.25 to 3.75 per.
Oil have to reimburse at min cost to acquire Price PLUS cost to retain further.
Retaining another 1.5 per x 5 = five 6th round picks [Marleau scale]
so NY adds two 2022 4ths [WPG, NYR] to the 5 6ths Oil would add, to get 3 EDM 2nds, years [2023, 2024 and 2025].

Oil pay to acquire Lindgren, offsets loss of Broberg who then send us.
Lindgren for Holloway, a recent mid 1st, is close enuf
Can also use LD Reunanen, ship him as well w/Brodzinski, so they add Lavoie + McLeod. [who are worth more, but included for balance of overall deal, + NY may have to take an expiring contract for cap balance prob Koskinen 4.5]

retained Price + Lindgren + Reunanen + Brodzinski + WPG + NYR 2022 4ths
for
Broberg + Holloway + Lavoie + McLeod + EDM 2nds, years [2023, 2024 and 2025].

===========
Granted, to be comprehensive it may be large, but it does work.

Habs get rebuild underway.
Oil get 5 year high quality net minder stability and a stud LD and immediate LD depth in reunanen

Rangers flip 9OA Krav value for 8OA Broberg, who is not as tough, but a bigger and better skater than Lindgren. Robertson ready to step in after we deal Nemeth.
All boxes checked until Trouba waives so we can add elc Schneider.

NYR runs w/deep young lineup

Goodrow - Zib - Panarin
LaF - Chytil - Gauthier
Kreider - Barron - Kakko
Reaves - Rooney - Hunt

at some pt if Kakko can be tough enuf protector, he may go to 1LW w/Goodrow in and Hunt/Reaves rotating in/out, with currently injured Holloway a speedy bookend w/kreider

Lavoie + McLeod are 2 2nd rounders w/speed + potential adding to Cuylie and Pajuniemi.

D:
Broberg - Fox
KAM - Trouba
Nemeth - Nils
long term:
Robertson - Schneider

if we get a decent pick offer from LA for Nemeth + Nils is ready [about a month to marinate a bit longer] then
bring in Jones, likely to showcase
KAM - Fox
Jones - Trouba
Broberg - Nils
is likely most balanced

G:
Shesty
Get Wall ready
Huska got his cherry popped vs Avalanche juggernaut w/a Ranger team that we all saw could have played better.
Huska ok to replace Geo just have Shesty available for the better teams.

================
You add large # of desirable blue chips and then -- not saying automatically we should, but IF -- IF we decide to add a splurge, we are doing so from position of strength while controling our cap, not the other way around.

If anything you are consistent...Wild Bern

 

[NickyFotiu]

Fast and Hagelin.

I doubt Minny would do it, but I know a 5 foot 7 right winger who would be strongly welcomed by Kreider, Zibs and the MSG crowd.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I would kick the tires on Holtby or Khudobin from Dallas. They have 4 NHL goalies and the cost can't be much.

Edit: apparently they are down to 3. Stars just announced Bishop will spend the rest of his contract on LTIR.

Seriously, what would you give up for Gourde? I mean he could solidify this group in a Butch Goring type of way for the bulk of this teams window of opportunity. I would say obviously Laf, Kakko, Shesterkin and Fox are off the table but anyone else under 25 who you wouldn't include if they threw the for for sale sign on Gourde and Gio as a package?

You may have lost a lot of the younger posters with your Butch Goring reference

 

[rangersfansince08]

no lol
pls pay attention

pt is you don't give away useful asset for free let him walk for nothing

Who the f*** cares about a late 2nd round pick?

This team is likely making the playoffs and not trading their best forwards' center.

Only in your bizzaro world would a 18-6-3 Rangers team sell their 2C and the buyer would be a 6-20-3 Montreal team. And then somehow this rebuilding team will extend a guy like Strome or trade two picks at the top of the second for one pick at the end of the first even though their 2nds have more value.

And then we are shifting Goodrow or Kakko to LW so our best forward has to play on his offside?

 

[NYRKing]

Reilly Smith, Pavelski, Rakell, assuming any hit the block.

 

[Sayba]

NO
Chytil is 2C core for immediate future +, stop giving him away
No on Strome walk
did we not learn from Ilses letting Tavares walk?
No on giving up blue chips esp elcs we want to add, not subtract
both on general principle and acknowledging reality of need to deal w/cap



Nils is fine; 111% no to dealing he is only guy on backline with a superior shot.
play Nemeth to accelerate Nils acclimation. Nem has to go by next yr in order to save cap. Hopefully that can happen later this yr. To LA for pick is fine.



No on paying assets most of which are not surplus,
no on giving Strome away for free post season
someone pays now.




for umpteenth time, can not cannibalize young ele core
that thinking has to stop




1. If this team is a serious challenger
Yes it already is but winning Cup means close not enuf, need to dominate if possible, hopefully no injuries, and we beat all challengers.
We might win now, we might not.
We don't deal youth which makes us cap complaint now and extends our window. We continue to draft smart and add, and only when we truly have surplus then do we CAREFULLY consider a splurge.

Coupla teams got our # now.
Patience.
Deal excess vets get down to core.
PLAY THOSE GUYS MO MINS which = increased familiarity = better chemistry which ups our game.

2. If Nils settles in
sufficiently there already
continue to make progress = fine


3. If one or more of our young forwards (Kakko, Laf or Chytil) breaks out.
Already have sufficiently done so.
More good stuff to come.
That none of them = MacKinnon level now, get a grip. Slow but steady here.

4. Is Shesty healthy and ready for a deep run.
No one knows who will be healthy when playoffs arrive.
Pure luck.
Surplus depth helps.

5. Is Mika back to being himself
Mika sufficiently fine now,
Next 4 yrs don't even need to think about him
it's how he ages last half of his deal that is a possible concern
howev, we made our bed, for better or worse...



We can't afford to extend Strome.
PERIOD
every mindset has to bend, buckle and break to that REALITY
Zib + Fox $$ dictates that.
Only way that changes is if Trouba agrees to leave early and that won't happen until MAYBE
MAYBE mid of next season [2023] at earliest
faster we sell Strome w/mo on his contract = larger return



No. Chytil's a keeper at least short term

I'm not saying we have to trade Nils , I just don't think he is ready yet, especially come playoff hockey.

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

Oil would move for Price if another team reduces him below the 5.25 at half retained.

1.
a) Krav + Geo + Hajek + NYR 2022 5th
for
Price max retained 50% = 5.25 + ANA 2022 3rd
Habs begin rebuild. Geo as starter fits on paper. krav is signif add. Hajek + lesser pick for 3rd = upgrade + roster spot for NYR

b) expriing Strome retained at half = 2.25 for MON 2022 + 2023 2nds
expiring no retention = later 1st
w/retention = 20OA ish
early 2nd thius yr + late 2nd ballpark enuf
Habs flip to a contender for a later 1st this yr or extend like 5.75 x4
____________

In order to retain on Price this season and next 5, we have no choice we must flip Lindgren; Trouba can be dealt for final 2 yrs of that 5. Again, no choice.

2. Immediately flip Price to Oil eating additional 1.5 per reducing Price hit from 5.25 to 3.75 per.
Oil have to reimburse at min cost to acquire Price PLUS cost to retain further.
Retaining another 1.5 per x 5 = five 6th round picks [Marleau scale]
so NY adds two 2022 4ths [WPG, NYR] to the 5 6ths Oil would add, to get 3 EDM 2nds, years [2023, 2024 and 2025].

Oil pay to acquire Lindgren, offsets loss of Broberg who then send us.
Lindgren for Holloway, a recent mid 1st, is close enuf
Can also use LD Reunanen, ship him as well w/Brodzinski, so they add Lavoie + McLeod. [who are worth more, but included for balance of overall deal, + NY may have to take an expiring contract for cap balance prob Koskinen 4.5]

retained Price + Lindgren + Reunanen + Brodzinski + WPG + NYR 2022 4ths
for
Broberg + Holloway + Lavoie + McLeod + EDM 2nds, years [2023, 2024 and 2025].

===========
Granted, to be comprehensive it may be large, but it does work.

Habs get rebuild underway.
Oil get 5 year high quality net minder stability and a stud LD and immediate LD depth in reunanen

Rangers flip 9OA Krav value for 8OA Broberg, who is not as tough, but a bigger and better skater than Lindgren. Robertson ready to step in after we deal Nemeth.
All boxes checked until Trouba waives so we can add elc Schneider.

NYR runs w/deep young lineup

Goodrow - Zib - Panarin
LaF - Chytil - Gauthier
Kreider - Barron - Kakko
Reaves - Rooney - Hunt

at some pt if Kakko can be tough enuf protector, he may go to 1LW w/Goodrow in and Hunt/Reaves rotating in/out, with currently injured Holloway a speedy bookend w/kreider

Lavoie + McLeod are 2 2nd rounders w/speed + potential adding to Cuylie and Pajuniemi.

D:
Broberg - Fox
KAM - Trouba
Nemeth - Nils
long term:
Robertson - Schneider

if we get a decent pick offer from LA for Nemeth + Nils is ready [about a month to marinate a bit longer] then
bring in Jones, likely to showcase
KAM - Fox
Jones - Trouba
Broberg - Nils
is likely most balanced

G:
Shesty
Get Wall ready
Huska got his cherry popped vs Avalanche juggernaut w/a Ranger team that we all saw could have played better.
Huska ok to replace Geo just have Shesty available for the better teams.

================
You add large # of desirable blue chips and then -- not saying automatically we should, but IF -- IF we decide to add a splurge, we are doing so from position of strength while controling our cap, not the other way around.

Bro... Price with max retention for Krav Geo and Hayak the kayak LOL

 

[Atax]

Do people actually think that Hajek and Georgiev have any value? Every team has their own equivalents. They have zero value.

 

[Miamipuck]

I would not make any major deals. This is a young team that has a lot of potential, that is improving in general. I would make a minor adjustment or two. Certainly, it's not time to sell prospects and bring vets in. I think this team will make the playoffs, but the real window for this team is probably a year or two in the future.

Look they're not going to be Stanley Cup favorites or anything close, but I do think they can do some damage if Igor gets hot.

One thing I think they desperately need is speed in the forward lines. They are missing a foward or two that can motor.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Not sure why people are against pure rentals. Obviously we don't want to trade any of the top assets but we have tons of ammunition if Drury and find a good deal, just because we're not "cup ready" doesn't mean he shouldn't try and see if he can upgrade before the playoffs.

 

[bernmeister]

Who the f*** cares about a late 2nd round pick?

This team is likely making the playoffs and not trading their best forwards' center.

Only in your bizzaro world would a 18-6-3 Rangers team sell their 2C and the buyer would be a 6-20-3 Montreal team. And then somehow this rebuilding team will extend a guy like Strome or trade two picks at the top of the second for one pick at the end of the first even though their 2nds have more value.

And then we are shifting Goodrow or Kakko to LW so our best forward has to play on his offside?

Who the f*** cares about a late 2nd round pick?
We should. And we should care passionately. Also btw Strome is now worth a late 1st, a better 1st if we retain. I suggested multiple lower picks in lieu of that.
This reckless irresponsible win now mindset that gaves us all sort of losers on bad deals deserves to be exposed and then condemned for the idiocy it is.
Once again.
Build, build, build.
Deal from strength based on surplus. Not weakness out of deseration.

This team is likely making the playoffs and not trading their best forwards' center.
Strome is not our best C by any of several eye tests.
And as to not trading, all other considerations must bend, buckle and break t cap reality. If you do not, and you keep him, and he walks b'c he is def. not coming back again at 4.5 per which we can't afford next 2 seasons anyway.

Only in your bizzaro world
You am funny ... not.

would a 18-6-3 Rangers team sell their 2C and the buyer would be a 6-20-3 Montreal team.
An open mind is yr friend.
Gorts has cap space to extend Strome, we do not.
He can flip him retained now once or twice if enough, or add term and then sell high.
And he is getting that return faster in hand than what we get from MON.

And while other parts were required to be deals w/Oil + Habs, Strome can be sent elsewhere.

And then somehow this rebuilding team will extend a guy like Strome
that is YOUR rejection of reality.
Math says it is not possible unless Trouba goes now.
DO THE EFFIN MATH.
Then talk, don't waste our time.

or trade two picks at the top of the second for one pick at the end of the first even though their 2nds have more value.
Go back, reread, and try explaining that again.
In English.

And then we are shifting Goodrow or Kakko to LW so our best forward has to play on his offside?
As I explained many times, what the Fs do in the offensive zone, I am copacetic. What works for them works for me. Howev,
on defense, I want as much as possible guys using their natural handedness for dealing with faceoffs, etc.

I'm not saying we have to trade Nils , I just don't think he is ready yet, especially come playoff hockey.

He has improved a lot over last 2 wks
I want max mins third pair w/Nemeth.
Then once he is ready enuf, we can break in new 3LD
There's another 2/3s + of season left.
Barring injury he will be ready.

Bro... Price with max retention for Krav Geo and Hayak the kayak LOL

Bro...
appreciate you giving a real post mortem
explain/admit all that works, if I missed something, pt that out too.

Do people actually think that Hajek and Georgiev have any value? Every team has their own equivalents. They have zero value.

Geo has value to where he is a good fit.
He is cheap, has rfa rights, and track record shows he will both stonewall good teams + get yips and suck ass every few games.
Howev, track record also shows, esp recently incl now, that he is MUCH improved with sufficient level of regular work, pref starter.
Right club might do a 4th + Geo for a 2nd
In the deal I had, he is in a package.

Sadly, Hajek has no value, he was completely ruined by mgmt.
He looked all world 4 games, then got injured, and has never been the same.
Included in my prop as part of a package and Gorts is throwing us one based on the rest of the deal.

Not sure why people are against pure rentals. Obviously we don't want to trade any of the top assets but we have tons of ammunition if Drury and find a good deal, just because we're not "cup ready" doesn't mean he shouldn't try and see if he can upgrade before the playoffs.

We should have an open mind at all times about all scenarios; howev, rentals by def are short term gain that canibalizes our long term health.
No sale on general principle.
Also no b'c of cap.

IF IF IF
we did Strome + small plus for Miller, and then had a follow up ready to flip him after the season, it is something that can be examined with an open mind. Howev,
if anybody backs out and you have to cover salary which you do not have cap for, then you are effed.
So again, strong lean no.

The scenario I posted is the best yer gonna get
In lieu of sexy established vets, consider the upside of Holloway, Lavoie McLeod. Then if/when these hit, from abundance deal for premium available talent from position of strength.
Also that best serves either during/after next season or the following, depending on how cooperative Trouba is/is not to being moved.
In the meatime, elcs + draft picks baby

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Where would we be without Kreider having the hottest start of his career? Now tell me why I should have faith that this is a Cup team this year, Lafreniere is tied for 3rd in goal scoring and most would agree he hasn't been scoring much. Like i kinda like Kakkos down low work but 3 goals for him in the spot he is in the lineup is not good. Imo until Kakko, Laf and Zibanejad are contributing we aren't going anywhere
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I agree. And no disrespect to them - they are still developing and will continue to for several years.

I think with Mika in particular not being the sniper this team paid for is the problem, though Chris has picked up the slack there.

Things evolve however, and Laffy ended last season as a different player. I think it was .58 ppg. But im not expecting things to change too much unless he finds a home on a line that clicks really well offensively.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Not sure why people are against pure rentals. Obviously we don't want to trade any of the top assets but we have tons of ammunition if Drury and find a good deal, just because we're not "cup ready" doesn't mean he shouldn't try and see if he can upgrade before the playoffs.

Because unless we add McDavid we dont have a chance at a cup, so basically you are dumping assets into the ocean.

 

[Machinehead]

I do think getting into the playoffs, maybe winning a round, and getting beat is an important thing to go through.

That being said, I don't think we need to rent to do that.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Who the f*** cares about a late 2nd round pick?
We should. And we should care passionately. Also btw Strome is now worth a late 1st, a better 1st if we retain. I suggested multiple lower picks in lieu of that.
This reckless irresponsible win now mindset that gaves us all sort of losers on bad deals deserves to be exposed and then condemned for the idiocy it is.
Once again.
Build, build, build.
Deal from strength based on surplus. Not weakness out of deseration.

This team is likely making the playoffs and not trading their best forwards' center.
Strome is not our best C by any of several eye tests.
And as to not trading, all other considerations must bend, buckle and break t cap reality. If you do not, and you keep him, and he walks b'c he is def. not coming back again at 4.5 per which we can't afford next 2 seasons anyway.

Only in your bizzaro world
You am funny ... not.

would a 18-6-3 Rangers team sell their 2C and the buyer would be a 6-20-3 Montreal team.
An open mind is yr friend.
Gorts has cap space to extend Strome, we do not.
He can flip him retained now once or twice if enough, or add term and then sell high.
And he is getting that return faster in hand than what we get from MON.

And while other parts were required to be deals w/Oil + Habs, Strome can be sent elsewhere.

And then somehow this rebuilding team will extend a guy like Strome
that is YOUR rejection of reality.
Math says it is not possible unless Trouba goes now.
DO THE EFFIN MATH.
Then talk, don't waste our time.

or trade two picks at the top of the second for one pick at the end of the first even though their 2nds have more value.
Go back, reread, and try explaining that again.
In English.

And then we are shifting Goodrow or Kakko to LW so our best forward has to play on his offside?
As I explained many times, what the Fs do in the offensive zone, I am copacetic. What works for them works for me. Howev,
on defense, I want as much as possible guys using their natural handedness for dealing with faceoffs, etc.



He has improved a lot over last 2 wks
I want max mins third pair w/Nemeth.
Then once he is ready enuf, we can break in new 3LD
There's another 2/3s + of season left.
Barring injury he will be ready.


Bro...
appreciate you giving a real post mortem
explain/admit all that works, if I missed something, pt that out too.


Geo has value to where he is a good fit.
He is cheap, has rfa rights, and track record shows he will both stonewall good teams + get yips and suck ass every few games.
Howev, track record also shows, esp recently incl now, that he is MUCH improved with sufficient level of regular work, pref starter.
Right club might do a 4th + Geo for a 2nd
In the deal I had, he is in a package.

Sadly, Hajek has no value, he was completely ruined by mgmt.
He looked all world 4 games, then got injured, and has never been the same.
Included in my prop as part of a package and Gorts is throwing us one based on the rest of the deal.


We should have an open mind at all times about all scenarios; howev, rentals by def are short term gain that canibalizes our long term health.
No sale on general principle.
Also no b'c of cap.

IF IF IF
we did Strome + small plus for Miller, and then had a follow up ready to flip him after the season, it is something that can be examined with an open mind. Howev,
if anybody backs out and you have to cover salary which you do not have cap for, then you are effed.
So again, strong lean no.

The scenario I posted is the best yer gonna get
In lieu of sexy established vets, consider the upside of Holloway, Lavoie McLeod. Then if/when these hit, from abundance deal for premium available talent from position of strength.
Also that best serves either during/after next season or the following, depending on how cooperative Trouba is/is not to being moved.
In the meatime, elcs + draft picks baby

Go find out what Montreal thinks about Strome on the trade board

 

[ChiHawk21]

any interest in a retained Patrick kane? hes got another year on the contract but is very much still an all star and top of his game. He can slip in with panarin and ANY center and they can dominate the game.

 

[rangersfansince08]

any interest in a retained Patrick kane? hes got another year on the contract but is very much still an all star and top of his game. He can slip in with panarin and ANY center and they can dominate the game.

Don't think we are a true cup contender this year. Maybe next year.

 

[Peltz]

Not sure why people are against pure rentals. Obviously we don't want to trade any of the top assets but we have tons of ammunition if Drury and find a good deal, just because we're not "cup ready" doesn't mean he shouldn't try and see if he can upgrade before the playoffs.

If you don't think you're ready to win a cup, you don't trade your future away for rentals. You pull that trigger only if you think the window to win it all is open.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

If you don't think you're ready to win a cup, you don't trade your future away for rentals. You pull that trigger only if you think the window to win it all is open.

Who's talking about "trading away the future" here? You can make deadline rental trades without trading away your future. Unless you think trading a 3rd round pick and a prospect who will never make it to the Rangers because of a deep system being the Rangers trading away their future.

Not to mention that just because the Rangers aren't perfect doesn't mean they don't have a chance to win a cup. It's not likely, but with Shesterkin, Fox and Panarin we have the talent to potentially go on a run.

 

[cwede]

hopefully these 4 games(Buff included) clarify that this team is not top tier yet, and shouldn't be 'all in yet' with overpays for depth

sure, mid-level deals for rental shooting RW, a faceoff guy, or a better 3rd LD (Hajek in 2 games has looked better than all of Tinordi, and pretty much all-but-maybe-PK-w-Trouba Nemeth.

But if they can get by without moving Robertson, Jones, Barron, Cuylle, Berard, Schneider or Othmann, and only Krav for a compelling return,
they may be better next season or 2, and better positioned to get most benefit from TDL-type deals down the line