What wrong with "Mitch'in" Marner?
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I mean I find people unraveling at their own team as funny as the next guy, especially when they act the polar opposite at times, but I think Marner’s intention was to express appreciation for being treated as if he is infallible while knowing that he is not. He just delivered that message very poorly.
The best thing Toronto fans can do for themselves and this entitled brat is boo him relentlessly every time he touched the puck. If you see him in public, ignore him.
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My comment or Mitchs comment? If it's mine...bookmark it, come back to it, study it, remember it. I don't see him redeeming himself anytime soon.
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I know athletes aren't known for being geniuses, but this guy seems to really lack polish and articulation ability when it comes to expressing himself.
If he can't say anything intelligent, he needs to do himself a favor and shut the hell up.
If he can't say anything intelligent, he needs to do himself a favor and shut the hell up.
I'm no fan of Marner but he didn't say he was a god, so I don't know why so many posters are getting their tails in a knot. He said "we're looked upon as kinds of gods here." It's still a dumb thing to say, but he is referring to the fan adoration that comes with being a Leaf in Leaf Nation. It is one reason why playing in Toronto is a very sharp two-edged sword, great when things are going well, but if a player doesn't perform to expectations, it can be hell. Maybe fans need to find a better balance between devotion and common sense.
Bruce Granville
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Mitch watch p*rn… “men and women are calling out my name? I must be the greatest of all time! Wait until daddy hears about this…”
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If the leafs actually won the cup then yeah his comment wouldn’t be that far off. Just look at how the city was like over Kawhi Leonard. I also feel like I don’t need to explain the difference with the two though…Still a really dumb, ignorant, arrogant comment by someone who doesn’t think before they say something.
Boston will win the cup, and all will be well in Leaf land.
He goes from by FAR the best scorer in the league to 30th best, inexcusable for 14 million a year.He’s not a 70 goal scorer over his career.Come on man.
After his career year he's a 54/82 goal scorer. In the playoffs he's 35/82. So, like I said... an underperformer.
Marner falls to 16/82 in the playoffs. That's absolutely brutal for a player of his talents.
Marner goes from 12th best p/60 to 43rd, same dropoff 30 spots.
They are both horrendous relative to their contracts which dictate they MUST play like at least a top 10 guy, they are probably closer to 40-60 best playoff performer.
Tom Polakis
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This is the one sensible reply to Marner's comment. I don't care one way or another about the guy, but triggered reactions based on that phrase in quotes above are at least as dumb as what he said.
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I saw Mitch's comment this morning over breakfast and was pretty put off by his view of himself and the "core four". Few would be presumptuous enough to consider themselves collectively as "gods". The team has a large and loyal following, and has been historically popular, but I don't know ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE who has these players deified to the point of reverence and worthy of worship.
If nothing else, their status as generally overpaid and underperforming nets them much more scrutiny and criticism (which, given the nature of the press and media coverage, it should). Mitch is believing the hype that may be mostly media generated, but I think this is reflective of the general mentality of these players thinking somehow they are immune to performance based consequences.
Guys like Dubas I am sure fostered this type of mentality and I hope Pelley takes a good hard look at the players, and especially senior management to determine whether they want to continue to permeate this culture of entitlement going forward.
If nothing else, their status as generally overpaid and underperforming nets them much more scrutiny and criticism (which, given the nature of the press and media coverage, it should). Mitch is believing the hype that may be mostly media generated, but I think this is reflective of the general mentality of these players thinking somehow they are immune to performance based consequences.
Guys like Dubas I am sure fostered this type of mentality and I hope Pelley takes a good hard look at the players, and especially senior management to determine whether they want to continue to permeate this culture of entitlement going forward.
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Good point. And both Kawhi and Joe Carter are humble people who really downplay, and under reflect their truly significant accomplishments to their teams. Neither Kawhi nor Carter saw themselves as above anyone else. This is what still makes them respected amongst fans all these years later.
What fosters this level of comment is the acceptance of mediocrity or complacency in the culture of the team environment. Which is driven by management. If management doesn't accept ho-hum results and will not be reluctant to make wholesale changes, players will have more drive and urgency to perform.
This is like years ago when my Mom was working for the government and she had colleagues who were lifers at those positions, who did the same job as her but made significantly more. They went on endless coffee and smoke breaks and didn't even put close to the required work hours. Yet they continued to get raises every year, which fed the environment of complacency, as there was zero incentive to perform to certain standards, since there was not consequences for failing to do so.
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He's not talking about them as people and players specifically, he's talking about how the people of Toronto worship the Leafs.
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You're right, but it is just so clumsy of him to use that word. Everytime he talks he makes himself look more childish and idiotic. He should not be allowed near a microphone.
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Maybe I'm wrong in my perception on this but I don't think anyone worships the Leafs. Maybe it's a semantics thing, but even when people say musicians and athletes are their "idols", I'm not sure that's actually true. I think there is a distinct line between enjoyment and even adoration, and hero worship. No Leafs fan that I know would pay homage or have any reverence for Leafs player, past or present. That is not to say they are not fans, but I think there is a distinction, which is why Mitch's word of "gods" is really ridiculous given the implications, even if it applies to the organization.
We all know people who think of themselves more than they should, colleagues at work who feel they are indispensable or immune to being downsized, etc. The most balanced people are the ones who can humbly admit their shortcomings, accurately assess their strengths and weaknesses, and make every effort to rectify areas in which they need to develop.
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It’s still a really tone def response. He needs media training…. Badly.
Lafleurs Guy
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Sorry, no. It’s not close. One is underwhelming the other is God awful. People keep asking why Marner is the guy getting heat, it’s because he contributes nothing. Matthews played in half the series and contributed more. Ditto with Nylander.
You're right it is God awful Matthews goes from 1st (by far) to 32 in g/60, it's the same dropoff as Mitch (30+ spots), for 14 million it is God awful, agreed!
Lafleurs Guy
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Won game two. Setup the 1st goal in game 7. Played half the series.
What did Marner do? Honestly… did he do anything? What did that guy do for Seven Games?
Thats awesome, good for you Auston.
Can't wait to hang the
"Won game 2"
"Setup the 1st goal in a losing game 7"
Banners next year.
Are you a fan of the Leafs or of Auston? Because personally I'm a fan of the Leafs and paying 14 million for the 32nd best forward performance doesn't sound like a good deal to me (unless you're primarily an Auston fan, which would make it make sense)
Lafleurs Guy
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Banner? No. But it’s not bad for a guy who was clearly injured and played half the series.
Again, answer my question. What did Mitch Marner do for seven games? Where was he? Matthews won them a game. Nylander won them a game. Both contributed on a goal in game seven.
Where the f*** was Marner? Explain how him doing absolutely nothing in seven games warrants him above anyone let alone Matthews.
If Marner had done ANYTHING they might’ve won the series. Hell, Pasta did almost nothing the whole series but at least he contributed when it mattered. What the f*** did Marner do the whole series?
Want to say Matthews should be better? I’m right here with you. Worse than Marner? Not on your life.
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