I don't understand how people can continually jump the gun on these early season hot/cold streaks. This literally happens every year and every year people end up looking silly. It's a long season.
What is wrong with Mcdavid?
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It wasn't even a cold streak. He was playing hurt, still probably is a little hurt but getting close to 100%.
I suspected it was a hip flexor tear as he grabbed his hip immediately in the Jets game 5 weeks ago and could not return to that game.
A hip flexor tear (full) is a 6 week recovery time, we're getting into 5 weeks from that game now ... guess who has 12 points in his last 4 games, 9 in his last two?
What a coincidence.
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Pens fans sure seem to hate McDavid. Why though? It’s not McDavid’s fault he’s better than Crosby. Let it go. He doesn’t even play in the East, he has zero relevance to the Pens team besides being better than Crosby. That’s the only connection, being better than Crosby. It’s okay though, Crosby had a great career and should be proud of his accomplishments, but that doesn’t mean McDavid isn’t better than Crosby.
Oh and on a final note: he’s better than Crosby.
Oh and on a final note: he’s better than Crosby.
11 points in his last 4 games, 9 points in the last two ...
McDavid:
McDavid:
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Back to his normal form
He’s gonna score +110 pts in the remaining 62 games, winning his 6th Art Ross
He’s gonna score +110 pts in the remaining 62 games, winning his 6th Art Ross
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I’ve been a Penguins fan since before 66 was drafted and I don’t. Many do hate him though. They can’t help it because they are mostly spoiled children who have been gifted arguably the best collection of top end talent since the late 80s and since that range we have the most Stanley Cups. It’s never good enough however. They can’t stand not having “the best” at anything. Our fanbase is largely toxic and is full of ungrateful, fickle and shameless people. Really bad with the Steelers but the penguin arrogance has built up over the years. It’s not just bad in the city but online. The online penguins fan presence is ghastly. There is so much discontentment. Never is it good enough. For people that don’t live here you have not a clue. You’ll have people that try to elevate Lemieux over Gretzky when there is zero case. I fully understand that Lemieux is a deserving consensus member of the big 4 and it’s not as egregious as other examples but it has always been bad. They’ll find a way for anyone (Big Ben over Brady I’ve heard). I’ll always be a Pittsburgh diehard but I cringe and find myself ashamed pretty much daily with it all. Take it for what it’s worth since I’ve been watching Pittsburgh sports in general since 1975.
As for the McDavid hate it is precisely for the reason you mentioned.
Outside of team accomplishments the McDavid/Crosby debate is over already. I sadly didn’t get to see Bobby Orr play and his career was virtually over when I was starting out but only Gretzky and Lemieux in that order have peaked higher for players (especially forwards) that I have witnessed. Objectively he’s that good. We are talking about a guy that from April 20 2022 to May 14 2023 had 219 points in 115 straight games including the ‘22 and ‘23 playoffs. That’s a 156 point pace for two 57-58 game sample sizes so it’s like his Covid year two more times in one stretch. If you take just his best run within that it would be April 20 2022 to March 3 2023 (with the ‘22 playoffs) and he has 167 in 84 games (1.99 PPG). He’s at 2 points per game for over a full season length in the modern NHL. I mean there are threads on here from just a few years ago projecting Gretzky and Lemieux in the 150-160 range for the modern NHL. He literally just did that (not saying he’s on their level). I’ve seen him play in person 4 times and he has 12 points in those games. He’s incredible.
There are penguins fans out there that appreciate greatness despite not having the penguin logo on a sweater. We are rare but we do exist.
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Some posters can't help it. McDavid threatens their idols. Even last year you'd get these guys saying McDavid should score less to help his team win. They were out of options
It's expected but some Oiler fans turning on him when he was obviously injured was pretty low level
It seems to only be like 3 Pens fans, but they are absolutely SEETHING at the thought of Crosby not being better so they seem to be everywhere
According to one poster, Crosby would have “leadered” Broberg, Desharnais and Nurse to being better defenseman
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His hip seems to be getting better. He was able to twist better last night and actually shoot the puck, something hes clearly been avoiding this year. Scored a nice goal with a beautiful shot.
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For reference, he scored 48 goals and 70 assists for 118 points in his final 62 games last season. He went pointless just 3 times during that stretch. The Oilers went 40-13-9.
Interesting to note is that he didn’t have a single instance of putting up 9 points in 2 games like he has now, during the entire season last year. Considering he currently has 12 points in his past 4 games, he managed 2 separate instances of 13 points in 4 games last season and no others over 11.
We could very well see him average 2 PPG from here on out to make a second assault on 150 points and notch his 1000th career point in the final game of the regular season.
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He was just giving the field a fair head start just to see if he could lap them.
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Imagine counting this young man out.....vultures everywhere
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a post age as poorly as quickly as this one since that time that one guy said Mantha wasn’t worth a 3rd round pick and was then traded for a 1st/2nd 30mins later.
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Comparing his PPG pace over the last three seasons
I think this does a good job of showing just how crazy the PPG drop was from games 5 through 16 and how crazy his last 2 games game been.
He's still way behind the last two seasons, but it'll be interesting to revisit this in a month.
I think this does a good job of showing just how crazy the PPG drop was from games 5 through 16 and how crazy his last 2 games game been.
He's still way behind the last two seasons, but it'll be interesting to revisit this in a month.
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Lmao he'll never come back to this thread
Comparing his PPG pace over the last three seasons
I think this does a good job of showing just how crazy the PPG drop was from games 5 through 16 and how crazy his last 2 games game been.
He's still way behind the last two seasons, but it'll be interesting to revisit this in a month.
He was injured in game 5 of the season (Oct 21), probably a hip flexor tear as he was clutching his hip immediately and on the bench too and wasn't able to return in that game against Winnipeg on HNIC.
He missed two games after that, and then was rushed back to play in the Heritage Classic. He's been playing injured the last 5 weeks.
A hip flexor tear is a 6 week recovery, he's just probably been taking pain shots to play through it.
This stuff is not a magical mystery.
Even with the poor start of the team he had 8 points in 4 games + 2 periods before getting hurt in the Winnipeg game. As we're getting close to 6 weeks it takes for a hip flexor to heal, lo and behold his PPG is skyrocketing again the past few games (12 points in the last 4 games, 9 in the last two alone).
Insert "surprise, suprise" Tiktok meme here.
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Ohh, so you a doctor now, huh!? Seriously tho- makes sense? I heard he said he tore somethin, that all fits- so dang, those just heal on their own even if you’re playing through it?
There are doctors on Youtube that said the same thing. Hip injury or abdominal injury.
Kane crashed into his hip in game 4 of the season vs. Philly, that likely is actually what started the injury, he just fully tore it the next game and was clutching the hip area all the way to the bench.
Either way it aligns perfectly with a hip flexor tear recovery time ... Oct 21 is just about 5 weeks ago, and what a funny coincidence that McDavid's scoring is exploding as we're getting closer to the 6 week point where it generally takes for this injury to heal.
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I meant in terms of talent
He is behind Orr and Howe for now for career
If he wins the ross+hart+lindsay again this year he has a better peak+prime than Howe and can just be a top 5 player for another 7-8 years and he will pass Howe all time
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