Speculation: What happens with Tarasenko now?

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Ottawa?
Jake Sanderson and a couple of your 2nds?

No way Ottawa deals Sanderson for someone on the back half of his career, no matter how good he is playing at present.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

The summer price, sorry that is no more. It starts with 2022 1st + a top prospect. If that doesn't get offered, Blues keep him the entire season and playoffs it shouldn't surprise anyone.

Sounds like you'll be keeping him then

No GM is going to pay that price, unless you have a very generous definition of top prospect

 

[HuskyBruinPride]

Still can't believe Seattle passed on him for free

 

[Zats Muccarello]

He’s looked phenomenal, hope he stays healthy and continues to play at a high level

 

[PocketNines]

Sounds like you'll be keeping him then

No GM is going to pay that price, unless you have a very generous definition of top prospect

If the guy has 25g 25a two weeks before the deadline and is leading or close to leading the NHL in shots then he will absolutely be worth a 1st + "top" prospect because Armstrong can keep him the whole year and deal him in the offseason. What's he going to do if Armstrong says "they don't value you as highly as I do," quit playing hard for the playoff run? Why would they move him for just a 1st plus a B prospect? To clarify "top" I mean an A prospect. Someone the team definitely values as a first round pick, the way the Blues value Neighbors, Bolduc, Kostin, Perunovich.

 

[RobR]

The relationship is still beyond repair, Tarasenko still wants a trade. The only question is do we wait till next summer or would Army pull the trigger if he gets an offer he likes during the season.

You read to much of J.R.'s nonsense.

 

[bleedblue1223]

You read to much of J.R.'s nonsense.

It has nothing to do with him.

 

[SundherDome]

If the guy has 25g 25a two weeks before the deadline and is leading or close to leading the NHL in shots then he will absolutely be worth a 1st + "top" prospect because Armstrong can keep him the whole year and deal him in the offseason. What's he going to do if Armstrong says "they don't value you as highly as I do," quit playing hard for the playoff run? Why would they move him for just a 1st plus a B prospect? To clarify "top" I mean an A prospect. Someone the team definitely values as a first round pick, the way the Blues value Neighbors, Bolduc, Kostin, Perunovich.

Yeah

 

[PocketNines]

Yeah

Sure, quitting on your teammates while asking for a trade makes sense for a proud athlete

 

[westc2]

Having Tarasenko on the current roster is a luxury, not a necessity.

His relationship with Armstrong is pretty much ruined.

Freeing up Tarasenko’s cap hit to acquire a top 4 defenseman in-season or off-season does a lot more for the Blues than just holding onto Tarasenko.

You close with Armstrong or something? Got some insider info nobody else knows about?

Losing Tarasenko would make our offense go from the best in the NHL, to just slightly above average....all to pick up a mediocre 2nd pairing defensemen that we already have plenty of?

 

[SundherDome]

Sure, quitting on your teammates while asking for a trade makes sense for a proud athlete

You are acting like it hasn't happened before lol.

He has been paid handsomely, has a cup/ring and clearly doesn't want to play there anymore. Do you honestly think telling him "the value" wasn't there in a trade so we are keeping you, is going to help the situation?

 

[bleedblue1223]

You are acting like it hasn't happened before lol.

He has been paid handsomely, has a cup/ring and clearly doesn't want to play there anymore. Do you honestly think telling him "the value" wasn't there in a trade so we are keeping you, is going to help the situation?

That already happened, and we can see with our eyes that it hasn't negatively impacted his effort and performance. If you show teams you are just going to quit on the team, then that's going to have a severe impact on your trade value and how many teams would be interested in you. If your goal is to get out, that's the opposite of what you'd want to do.

 

[PocketNines]

You are acting like it hasn't happened before lol.

He has been paid handsomely, has a cup/ring and clearly doesn't want to play there anymore. Do you honestly think telling him "the value" wasn't there in a trade so we are keeping you, is going to help the situation?

I'm pretty honest, so yes I don't think Tarasenko is going to get a new personality when Armstrong tells him the rest of the league only thinks he's worth a 17-32 pick but Armstrong says an all-Star like him in his veteran prime is worth more than that for two seasons of play.

 

[TK 421]

You are acting like it hasn't happened before lol.

He has been paid handsomely, has a cup/ring and clearly doesn't want to play there anymore. Do you honestly think telling him "the value" wasn't there in a trade so we are keeping you, is going to help the situation?

No idea which team you cheer for so I'm not sure how your teams GM operates but Blues GM Doug Armstrong is one of the very best in the business. He didn't create this situation, Tarasenko and his agent did. Armstrong doesn't just cave in to player demands which is the primary reason the Blues have the depth they do. He's not going to hop to just because an agent didn't realize the GM he's dealing with isn't Dubas.

So it doesn't matter if his stance is helping the situation, that's just a deflection from Tarasenko's agent crying foul because he couldn't bully Armstrong into taking a bad deal.

Tarasenko and his agent only have themselves to blame here, probably should have used some basic logic and they could have reasonably deduced that being injured all the time with a big contract doesn't really lend itself to being traded quickly upon demand.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Any trade now should be a three way with Anaheim or Seattle. Otherwise there’s no point in hurting the roster this year. Defensive top end lhd is the only glaring weakness. See how scandella and co look and reassess around the deadline, and see if any injuries have occurred that freed up space

why Anaheim or Seattle?

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

You read to much of J.R.'s nonsense.

yup, he's definitely been used by Vladi's agent as a mouthpiece

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

You are acting like it hasn't happened before lol.

He has been paid handsomely, has a cup/ring and clearly doesn't want to play there anymore. Do you honestly think telling him "the value" wasn't there in a trade so we are keeping you, is going to help the situation?

you think 'quitting on his team' would enhance his trade value?

IMO, he's too proud and loves hockey too much to pull that crap. his present level of play backs that up

 

[RasmusAndersson]

You close with Armstrong or something? Got some insider info nobody else knows about?

Losing Tarasenko would make our offense go from the best in the NHL, to just slightly above average....all to pick up a mediocre 2nd pairing defensemen that we already have plenty of?

Is that serious? Maybe it would take you guys from slightly above average to just average. Agreed don’t sell him for a dman when you don’t have a need there but if Tarasenko wants out it will inevitably create tension and that’s not what you want in your organization. Moving him for a similarly skilled forward that is also overpriced but still has upside is the most likely outcome imo

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Is that serious? Maybe it would take you guys from slightly above average to just average. Agreed don’t sell him for a dman when you don’t have a need there but if Tarasenko wants out it will inevitably create tension and that’s not what you want in your organization. Moving him for a similarly skilled forward that is also overpriced but still has upside is the most likely outcome imo

you do realize that the Blues are currently 1st or 2nd in scoring so far, right?

 

[RasmusAndersson]

you do realize that the Blues are currently 1st or 2nd in scoring so far, right?

You believe that will continue after not finishing top-10 in scoring for last 5 years? Based on a 5 game sample with 3 games against Arizona and LA lol?
Will be fun to revisit this in a few months

 

[txpd]

What happens? Nothing. Trading players of this level and contract maturity is next to impossible. Lets recall that in this past off season Tarasenko, Kuznetsov and Eichel were all known to be on the market. None moved. The Eichel situation is so bad its about to implode.

 

[SundherDome]

That already happened, and we can see with our eyes that it hasn't negatively impacted his effort and performance. If you show teams you are just going to quit on the team, then that's going to have a severe impact on your trade value and how many teams would be interested in you. If your goal is to get out, that's the opposite of what you'd want to do.

Which exactly is the point. He is playing top notch to be moved, if you then don't move him.. you think it will continue?

 

[SundherDome]

I'm pretty honest, so yes I don't think Tarasenko is going to get a new personality when Armstrong tells him the rest of the league only thinks he's worth a 17-32 pick but Armstrong says an all-Star like him in his veteran prime is worth more than that for two seasons of play.

If you think it will help the situation, then just do it now and even give him an extension

 

[SundherDome]

No idea which team you cheer for so I'm not sure how your teams GM operates but Blues GM Doug Armstrong is one of the very best in the business. He didn't create this situation, Tarasenko and his agent did. Armstrong doesn't just cave in to player demands which is the primary reason the Blues have the depth they do. He's not going to hop to just because an agent didn't realize the GM he's dealing with isn't Dubas.

So it doesn't matter if his stance is helping the situation, that's just a deflection from Tarasenko's agent crying foul because he couldn't bully Armstrong into taking a bad deal.

Tarasenko and his agent only have themselves to blame here, probably should have used some basic logic and they could have reasonably deduced that being injured all the time with a big contract doesn't really lend itself to being traded quickly upon demand.

All GM's should operate as you mentioned. It doesn't exclude Tarasenko from potentially not being happy if he isn't moved, which is what I was conveying above.

 

[SundherDome]

you think 'quitting on his team' would enhance his trade value?

IMO, he's too proud and loves hockey too much to pull that crap. his present level of play backs that up

No, I don't think it will enhance it at all.