Speculation: What happens with Carey Price?

[Lshap]

By the way, no team 'flukes' its way to the SCF. That's utter nonsense. Unless goals bounce off the ref's ass, you only get to the SCF by being very good. Fans use weak excuses like "Fluke" when they can't explain why a team performs better than they predicted.

 

[Diamonddog01]

He has to play again and he will to finish the year. I'll say 3-5 games.

Traded this summer? Likely not cause it's a difficult contract to move with a flat cap of $1M growth. Even with retention. It's possible but probability is low IMO. I think it will take a team to step up big time if they want us to trade Price this summer. The more likely possibility is the real trade talks happen for the 23 deadline where you get to see him play more games first and then the cap for 23/24+ is going to grow and you can fit that contract in more easily.

Traded with retention after he is 100% healthy again (next deadline or summer of 23)? Habs are not going to trade him with 50% retention and take meh back which is what 90% of the fans on HF boards will push onto us. It's not happening. If we are trading a healthy Price with 50% retention, pay up or shut up. We are not giving a cup contender a real chance at a cup where you get him at $5.25M. That will not be cheap in futures/youth

50% retention? I doubt it. Probably retention down to $7M-$8M range where we take a contract back. Double retention? Highly doubt it with that kind of term left. Double retention usually happens for pending UFA's at a deadline

Buy Price out? That's comical. He's either healthy or on LTIR. It's one or the other. We will not be buying him out where we won't need cap space during rebuild/youth movement years.

He's turning 35 in a few more months and signed for 4 for more years lol. Your tone here comes across as both homerish and delusional.

 

[McSuper]

You really don't want McDavid to win a Cup, do you ?
A player who can carry a team, playing a position of great need for your team, and you just find ways to blast him ?
I guess McDavid will get tired of Edmonton and go win elsewhere.

I'm not saying all Habs fans are realistic in their evaluations, but you're overstating your case as well.

Yes because trading for a broken Price will get McDavid a cup but only if he goes to Tim's as Price isn't winning anything . Lots of team need goalies . Price is so great you can see the line up to the left .

Also the highlighted part . Maybe Montreal did want Price to win a cup or they would've traded for a old injured player with addiction issues . Works both ways .

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I’d take Price on San Jose if we could send back Hill, Labanc, and Vlasic but I don’t value Price that much and Montreal wouldn’t want to do that.

 

[Shane Diesel]

The last half decade of playoff goalies:

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FYI: Price's regular season SV% during the same timeframe is .912 – pretty good, if not great.

Isn't the average SV% in the regular season around .915? He's not pretty good, he's objectively average with a $10 million cap hit.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Isn't the average SV% in the regular season around .915? He's not pretty good, he's objectively average with a $10 million cap hit.

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[Shane Diesel]

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Pretty close. My overall point stands. Objectively average.

 

[akratique]

The last half decade of playoff goalies:

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FYI: Price's regular season SV% during the same timeframe is .912 – pretty good, if not great.

Look at Mr. objectivity here!

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

The last half decade of playoff goalies:

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FYI: Price's regular season SV% during the same timeframe is .912 – pretty good, if not great.

Among the 28 goalies with 200 games played over the last 5 years, Price is 16th in regular season SV%, tied with James Reimer at 0.912. Over the same time, Devan Dubnyk has a 0.913 regular season SV% in 241 games played. Maybe it's just me, but I struggle to call somebody worse than Dubnyk and comparable to Reimer "pretty good, if not great".

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Among the 28 goalies with 200 games played over the last 5 years, Price is 16th in regular season SV%, tied with James Reimer at 0.912. Over the same time, Devan Dubnyk has a 0.913 regular season SV% in 241 games played. Maybe it's just me, but I struggle to call somebody worse than Dubnyk and comparable to Reimer "pretty good, if not great".

I don't recall Reimer / Dubnyk putting a team on their shoulders in the playoffs and leading them to a cup final. When you reach the playoffs with Price, anything can happen. He can take a bubble team and carry them to the cup final as he did a year ago.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I don't recall Reimer / Dubnyk putting a team on their shoulders in the playoffs and leading them to a cup final. When you reach the playoffs with Price, anything can happen. He can take a bubble team and carry them to the cup final as he did a year ago.

And I don't recall Reimer or Dubnyk being gifted playoff berths they didn't deserve because of a global pandemic. I also don't know what Price in the playoffs has to do with his regular season numbers being mediocre at best.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

And I don't recall Reimer or Dubnyk being gifted playoff berths they didn't deserve because of a global pandemic. I also don't know what Price in the playoffs has to do with his regular season numbers being mediocre at best.

Price in the playoffs if the prime reason he is a big game goaltender. Its irrelevant how you get to the playoffs. If Price gives a top-15 team a chance to win. Not many goalies do that. Dubnyk and Reimer are laughable in comparison.

What matters is what you can do in the playoffs. Avs fans should understand this with the crap they put in net in the recent offseasons. Sakic finally came to his senses last off season.

 

[StephenPeat]

I don't recall Reimer / Dubnyk putting a team on their shoulders in the playoffs and leading them to a cup final. When you reach the playoffs with Price, anything can happen. He can take a bubble team and carry them to the cup final as he did a year ago.

That’s fine that you remember the one decent Run from Price’s entire Playoff resume. Guess what, in 90-odd Playoff Games Price Has Not, in fact, put anything on his back nor carried it anywhere. He’s a Sub-0.500 Goalie in the Playoffs with fairly pedestrian numbers and the same amount to show for it as the entire Habs team of this generation, which is to say…….nothing.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

That’s fine that you remember the one decent Run from Price’s entire Playoff resume. Guess what, in 90-odd Playoff Games Price Has Not, in fact, put anything on his back nor carried it anywhere. He’s a Sub-0.500 Goalie in the Playoffs with fairly pedestrian numbers and the same amount to show for it as the entire Habs team of this generation, which is to say…….nothing.

Look at his playoff history and save%. Or did you just assume it was 1 run?

Do some research...

 

[StephenPeat]

Look at his playoff history and save%. Or did you just assume it was 1 run?
Do some research...

He’s got 43 Wins, 45 Losses (so he’s under 0.500), a 0.919 SV % (pedestrian), and a 2.39 GAA (again pedestrian). Suggesting Carey Price is a Big Game goalie is histrionics and disingenuous.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

That’s fine that you remember the one decent Run from Price’s entire Playoff resume. Guess what, in 90-odd Playoff Games Price Has Not, in fact, put anything on his back nor carried it anywhere. He’s a Sub-0.500 Goalie in the Playoffs with fairly pedestrian numbers and the same amount to show for it as the entire Habs team of this generation, which is to say…….nothing.

This is objectively false lol you sound like an idiot

 

[StephenPeat]

This is objectively false lol you sound like an idiot

It’s factually correct and inarguable.

Let me ask you a question Boss, is Jaroslav Halak a Big Game Playoff Goalie? Because his Playoff numbers are overall similar and he had nearly identical (if not arguably better) Playoff success in Montreal than Carey Price has had.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

It’s factually correct and inarguable.

Really makes you think

 

[Junohockeyfan]

He’s got 43 Wins, 45 Losses (so he’s under 0.500), a 0.919 SV % (pedestrian), and a 2.39 GAA (again pedestrian). Suggesting Carey Price is a Big Game goalie is histrionics and disingenuous.

You are entitled to your opinion and can

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Those are Reimer / Dubnyk numbers.... playoff prowess is meaningless. It all about pre-season hockey.

 

[Lshap]

Among the 28 goalies with 200 games played over the last 5 years, Price is 16th in regular season SV%, tied with James Reimer at 0.912. Over the same time, Devan Dubnyk has a 0.913 regular season SV% in 241 games played. Maybe it's just me, but I struggle to call somebody worse than Dubnyk and comparable to Reimer "pretty good, if not great".

Struggle all you want with definitions. Price has been elite in the playoffs.

 

[Lshap]

Look at Mr. objectivity here!

Which statistic did you not understand?

 

[Lshap]

Isn't the average SV% in the regular season around .915? He's not pretty good, he's objectively average with a $10 million cap hit.

I was responding to someone who assessed Price's last few seasons as "Objectively subpar". Someone else made the weird claim that Price only had strong one playoffs in 2021. These people are objectively wrong. Whatever word you feel like using for his regular seasons – so-so, okay, pretty good, average – Price's playoffs have been great.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Struggle all you want with definitions. Price has been elite in the playoffs.

And that somehow makes his utterly mediocre regular season numbers "pretty good, if not great"?

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I was responding to someone who assessed Price's last few seasons as "Objectively subpar". Someone else made the weird claim that Price only had strong one playoffs in 2021. These people are objectively wrong. Whatever word you feel like using for his regular seasons – so-so, okay, pretty good, average – Price's playoffs have been great.

Now, if only he could actually earn a legitimate playoff berth without special covid rules...

 

[akratique]

Which statistic did you not understand?

I was being sarcastic. I agree with you 100%