This has been proven wrong on multiple occasions. I’ve seen it done with a sumo wrestler in net. They don’t take up nearly as much net as you think and NHL players can shoot way more accurately than you obviously know.
What’s your unpopular hockey opinion?
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This has been proven wrong on multiple occasions. I’ve seen it done with a sumo wrestler in net. They don’t take up nearly as much net as you think and NHL players can shoot way more accurately than you obviously know.
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The NHL season should end in late August and start in early September - and I'll wrestle any person in Barrow AK for any reason.
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Can't agree. Only half should. The other half to Regina - and I'll wrestle any bear with 100 square miles of Barrow AK.
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The ONLY goalie stat that is a true indicator of greatness is ... How cool his mask & pads look.
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Interesting proposal but I'd prefer 7 rounds of playoffs w/ each round's "Best of" increasing by prime numbers ... 1,3,5,7,11,13, &17.
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If the recent Vlassic and Hall quotes on Escrow are indicative of NHL player’s general (mis)understanding of Escrow, HRR, the inflator, etc...then I’m personally leaning towards being on the owner’s-side of the upcoming labor dispute and will have a major problem with the NHLPA and how they conduct themselves.
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A player's scoring peak is usually not their best quality hockey.
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Defense at an individual player level is overrated. It's hard to measure accurately, a vast majority of people don't know how to watch/scout it, and it's very largely reputation driven.
Offside is an antiquated rule that can and should be overhauled. Have a "floating" blue line - if a defensive player is behind the blue line, they become the plane that the blue line exists on (very similar to offside in soccer). So it's the blue-line unless a defensive player is behind it. No more killing plays because one player is an inch ahead, or having players veer off the play to stay onside. It should make things easier to enforce, should increase offense, and makes for better game flow.
Players should absolutely be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to leaving teams or making the right decision for themselves financially. People give teams all sorts of leeway, "it's a business", etc., but the players get vilified. Look at Tavares last offseason. He earned the right to decide where to sign, he used it, and yet he gets vilified for it. But when a team decides a player isn't worth the contract they want, it's the smart decision. I hate this and it's something I wish people would just sit there and think about it more than they do now.
Offside is an antiquated rule that can and should be overhauled. Have a "floating" blue line - if a defensive player is behind the blue line, they become the plane that the blue line exists on (very similar to offside in soccer). So it's the blue-line unless a defensive player is behind it. No more killing plays because one player is an inch ahead, or having players veer off the play to stay onside. It should make things easier to enforce, should increase offense, and makes for better game flow.
Players should absolutely be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to leaving teams or making the right decision for themselves financially. People give teams all sorts of leeway, "it's a business", etc., but the players get vilified. Look at Tavares last offseason. He earned the right to decide where to sign, he used it, and yet he gets vilified for it. But when a team decides a player isn't worth the contract they want, it's the smart decision. I hate this and it's something I wish people would just sit there and think about it more than they do now.
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the neutral zone trap was one of the greatest styles of hockey in the 20th century, as evidenced by being used to perfection by a franchise which would become one of only four non-original-six franchises to win at least three stanley cups.
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Boxcar65's devotion to Brandon "Mandog" Manning is one if the truly beautiful stories not only on HFBoards, but all of professional sports; and in fact, all of modern day literature.
I for one, hope "Mandog" makes it back to the show just so Boxcar's days happier. (And I'm sure my sentiments exhoed by all HFlyers & HFawks posters. We love you Boxcar wherever you are!)
I for one, hope "Mandog" makes it back to the show just so Boxcar's days happier. (And I'm sure my sentiments exhoed by all HFlyers & HFawks posters. We love you Boxcar wherever you are!)
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Brock boeser is the winger version of monahan, does nothing most of the time and then just scores...
He reminds me a lot of Laine in the way he plays, now that you mention it.
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Nobody watches individual players in isolation enough to accurately analyze them.
Your "eye test" is entirely reputation.
I'm not saying we discard reputation, but let's call it what it is and understand that it's not perfect.
Your "eye test" is entirely reputation.
I'm not saying we discard reputation, but let's call it what it is and understand that it's not perfect.
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I say amen, as a guy who gave up on trying to follow Greco-Roman wrestling.
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Not an unpopular opinion per se but something lots of casual fans might not understand...
Analytics is all about 'entry with possession' and how successful that is relative to dumping it in. (of course you'd prefer to have the puck instead of having to get it back first). What lots of casuals don't realize is there is a compromise, that is if your team elects to try and gain the zone with possession more, good chance you'll be giving up your zone with possession more the other way.
dumping the puck in and managing it (getting it behind the opposition) forces them to go ~200 feet each time and lets you establish your neutral zone forecheck if you can't recover the puck and avoids turnovers and transition chances. Boston and St Louis has 2 of the highest dump in rates and were 2 of the best defensive teams in the league.
A team like the Blackhawks had one of the highest rates of making plays into the zone but also had the worst rate the other way. Same with Ottawa.
Obviously you're more likely to generate a chance when you can control the puck when crossing the blue line (duh) but the value of it in the grand scheme and over the long haul isn't as valualbe as led to believe.
Analytics is all about 'entry with possession' and how successful that is relative to dumping it in. (of course you'd prefer to have the puck instead of having to get it back first). What lots of casuals don't realize is there is a compromise, that is if your team elects to try and gain the zone with possession more, good chance you'll be giving up your zone with possession more the other way.
dumping the puck in and managing it (getting it behind the opposition) forces them to go ~200 feet each time and lets you establish your neutral zone forecheck if you can't recover the puck and avoids turnovers and transition chances. Boston and St Louis has 2 of the highest dump in rates and were 2 of the best defensive teams in the league.
A team like the Blackhawks had one of the highest rates of making plays into the zone but also had the worst rate the other way. Same with Ottawa.
Obviously you're more likely to generate a chance when you can control the puck when crossing the blue line (duh) but the value of it in the grand scheme and over the long haul isn't as valualbe as led to believe.
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You may not, but it certainly impacts what Wing or Defensive side players are more/less apt at.
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It doesn't work. There were plenty of cheapshots even when fighting was more prevalent. It's a mindset that is very rarely changed by fear. In addition, you could just turtle.
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I could see it for a winger but I have a hard time seeing it for the defender. That's something the team can adjust for.
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