Post-Game Talk: Well this is familiar: Jets lose 6-3 to the HelmetPardy guys

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R3DDRAG0N

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:laugh: you guys crack me up, don't know how long it will take for you guys to realize this core was never built to win anything aside from the odd game and is really just meant to be competitive and hard working to try to keep Atlanta fans interested.

With the path Chevy appears to be taking it will take a little while for us to be as polished as a team like Chicago, right now we do have some good pieces and some valuable assets which can be used as trade bait (hopefully for a couple first round picks). Once guys like Petan, Morrisey, Kosmachuk, sheifele, Lowry, and trouba mature a bit and start to make their way onto this roster, they will look a lot more like a team,and you will definitely see more tape to tape passes and prettier plays.

I agree but can't we just still be able to ***** and complain along the way?. Isn't that half the fun of having a ****** team?:yo:
 

Hank Chinaski

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Welp...what're ya gonna do eh? We're just not a very good hockey team really.

Well yeah, we're not as good as Chicago.

Can't really afford to have pedestrian goaltending and essentially one line going against the best team in the league. Games like this inevitably gets framed as a "Jets personnel issue"; fair enough, but we're a long ways away from correcting that issue to the point where we'd be on Chicago's level.

Can't help but feel that we have a team being coached to go blow for blow with Chicago. The current roster would probably be better served with a philosophy that espoused reducing chances against as opposed to attempting to outgun one of the best teams in the last 7-8 years.
 

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:laugh: you guys crack me up, don't know how long it will take for you guys to realize this core was never built to win anything aside from the odd game and is really just meant to be competitive and hard working to try to keep Atlanta fans interested.

With the path Chevy appears to be taking it will take a little while for us to be as polished as a team like Chicago, right now we do have some good pieces and some valuable assets which can be used as trade bait (hopefully for a couple first round picks). Once guys like Petan, Morrisey, Kosmachuk, sheifele, Lowry, and trouba mature a bit and start to make their way onto this roster, they will look a lot more like a team,and you will definitely see more tape to tape passes and prettier plays.



Dream on:cry:
 

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Sure, I have some valuable advice on choosing your battles, things that are important to fight about and things that aren't, what you should stress about and what not to, letting go of the past and trivialities. Pretty simple stuff.

That's fantastic. Maybe you can share that learned wisdom with Mr. TOO Classy, who chose the battle? You know that it's possible to support your team emotionally and financially and still disagree with an odd decision of ownership, right?
 

Duke749

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:laugh: you guys crack me up, don't know how long it will take for you guys to realize this core was never built to win anything aside from the odd game and is really just meant to be competitive and hard working to try to keep Atlanta fans interested.

With the path Chevy appears to be taking it will take a little while for us to be as polished as a team like Chicago, right now we do have some good pieces and some valuable assets which can be used as trade bait (hopefully for a couple first round picks). Once guys like Petan, Morrisey, Kosmachuk, sheifele, Lowry, and trouba mature a bit and start to make their way onto this roster, they will look a lot more like a team,and you will definitely see more tape to tape passes and prettier plays.

Excuse me?

The ironic thing is your logic also insinuates that they are taking advantage of the "novelty" in Winnipeg and just chillaxing while the money just piles in.
 

GoJetsGo55

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Do you really think we will make the playoffs this year?

I am still 50/50 on it. This team has shown that it can stand toe to toe against top teams. As I said before. Consistency is still a major issue with this team.

I guess it sucks that there is only 10 games left in the season...............oh wait!
 

pucka lucka

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Re: Scheifele

Send him down. Put him on the 3rd line with some skaters who can't pass and well below average hIQ. He hasn't played well, but his usage has been really odd. No chance to succeed offensively, why is he up? I'd think he'd be best with Tangradi and Seto, outside the rest of the top 6. At least those guys can see the ice a bit.

I hate how our team plays such a mindless north south game.
 

Duke749

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Just a short while ago we went 5-1 in our last 6. That run included 2 games against Detroit and 1 game game against the Sharks. We played really good during that stretch. We certainly have looked like a playoff team at certain times this year. Consistency is still an issue.

We are also only 24 games into the season. There is a LOT of hockey to play yet. Come on people!

The problem is, and you seem to fail to see it, is that we first have to get close to a playoff spot, and then sustain it. So we would have to go on an extended hot streak, and then be able to continue above average play to stay in a playoff spot.
 

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Re: Scheifele

Send him down. Put him on the 3rd line with some skaters who can't pass and well below average hIQ. He hasn't played well, but his usage has been really odd. No chance to succeed offensively, why is he up? I'd think he'd be best with Tangradi and Seto, outside the rest of the top 6. At least those guys can see the ice a bit.

I hate how our team plays such a mindless north south game.

moar burmi amirite? :sarcasm:
 

GoJetsGo55

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The statistical probability of the Jets making the playoffs is very low. Pointing this out and saying that it sucks does not make that poster any less of a fan than you are.

The odds are low. That's fine. There is a LOT of hockey to play yet. I have no idea how so many people can jump ship 24 games into the season. It blows my mind.
 

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Well yeah, we're not as good as Chicago.

Can't really afford to have pedestrian goaltending and essentially one line going against the best team in the league. Games like this inevitably gets framed as a "Jets personnel issue"; fair enough, but we're a long ways away from correcting that issue to the point where we'd be on Chicago's level.

Can't help but feel that we have a team being coached to go blow for blow with Chicago. The current roster would probably be better served with a philosophy that espoused reducing chances against as opposed to attempting to outgun one of the best teams in the last 7-8 years.

The entire 3rd period felt like they were trying to match blow for blow with Chicago, but lack the skill to do so. They played Chicago's game, and Chicago plays it best.

I can see that this PGT has devolved into the usual caricature of a fanbase, so I'll see you guys in Saturday's GDT.
 

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wpgsilver

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Seems to me like the sum of this team is less than the parts.
I feel like on paper we're a better team than we tend to show night in and night out. I'm not sure if its coaching or just the combination of players but something has to change. I don't think we have a contending roster, but I certainly think we should be better.
I fear that we're going to be a mid level team that doesn't make the playoffs for the foreseeable future, and thats unacceptable to me.
Something needs to change. I have little faith that this group with this coaching staff will suddenly improve.
 

pucka lucka

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I know you're upset about the loss, but Scheif was pretty bad this game. Personal mistakes, not the mistakes of his line. I was actually surprised he kept on getting more ice-time.

Can't blame the loss on him not being on the PP, when we scored twice on the PP.

Mark averages 1:33 of PP time per game actually, which is 6th amongst the Jets forwards. So yeah, he's been getting more than zero. Just producing zero aside from his one goal in the first game.

As for the linemates he was with him, I believe he started on the second line with Kane and Setoguchi on the season. He basically didn't play well enough to stay there.

He's just not very good right now. Not saying bust or never will be good. Just not good right now.

You missed my point entirely. I was referring to his is USAGE. It doesn't make any sense, if they keep him in the NHL.
 

Duke749

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The odds are low. That's fine. There is a LOT of hockey to play yet. I have no idea how so many people can jump ship 24 games into the season. It blows my mind.

I started watching this team in like '06 or '07. It's not 24 games that frustrates me, and it's not 24 games that frustrates others. We were once again, embarrassed on home ice. It gets old being a fan of mediocrity... :help:
 

GoJetsGo55

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The problem is, and you seem to fail to see it, is that we first have to get close to a playoff spot, and then sustain it. So we would have to go on an extended hot streak, and then be able to continue above average play to stay in a playoff spot.

Do you honestly think the western conference is going to continue it's utter DOMINATION of the eastern conference?

There are a lot of teams that have yet to come back down to Earth but they will. Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, and Colorado are not going to keep this pace up for an entire season.

I am blind to nothing good sir. I am just a little more level headed than some of the people here who are ready for the team to implode.
 

Duke749

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Well yeah, we're not as good as Chicago.

Can't really afford to have pedestrian goaltending and essentially one line going against the best team in the league. Games like this inevitably gets framed as a "Jets personnel issue"; fair enough, but we're a long ways away from correcting that issue to the point where we'd be on Chicago's level.

Can't help but feel that we have a team being coached to go blow for blow with Chicago. The current roster would probably be better served with a philosophy that espoused reducing chances against as opposed to attempting to outgun one of the best teams in the last 7-8 years.

Unless Chevy makes some changes, we essentially have to wait another 2-4 years before we can do that. By that, I mean waiting for his picks to make a difference. What I don't understand is why we can't make the most of what we have. :(
 

R3DDRAG0N

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You missed my point entirely. I was referring to his is USAGE. It doesn't make any sense, if they keep him in the NHL.


He's tentative and doesn't seem to"want" the puck like upper Escalon players tend to do (rookies too). The points he's putting up don't bother me it's the type of game he brings.
 

viper0220

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Excuse me?

The ironic thing is your logic also insinuates that they are taking advantage of the "novelty" in Winnipeg and just chillaxing while the money just piles in.


After this year the novelty will wear off a bit (3rd year) and by the 5th year(you don't want me to say).
 

meedle

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I am still 50/50 on it. This team has shown that it can stand toe to toe against top teams. As I said before. Consistency is still a major issue with this team.

I guess it sucks that there is only 10 games left in the season...............oh wait!

I'm glad your optomistic. Reality shows they are in last place in the division and everyone has played less games. All the playoff teams have are 9+ games over .500. All the playoff teams have a massive home winning record and have a winning record on the road. The Jets are 1 game under 500. I just don't see it. Someone mentioned a few days ago that the jets would have to win 14 in a row just to catch up.
 

Avocado Coolranch

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Uhh, who is he again? I don't see him on our roster.

Just sayin that Burmi would probably agree with you about the whole 'mindless north south' style that the Jets play.

In reply to sheif's usage: Jet's didn't get a center to replace burmi during the offseason and were probably banking that sheif will play up to par. Has he? :dunno: I too believe that Sheif should be sent down for development but who's the backup? Wright? lol.
 

GoJetsGo55

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I started watching this team in like '06 or '07. It's not 24 games that frustrates me, and it's not 24 games that frustrates others. We were once again, embarrassed on home ice. It gets old being a fan of mediocrity... :help:

I get it. You are used to seeing a poor team. Those previous seasons have exactly ZERO impact on what's happening right now. The only thing they do is bring you down personally. Just because you had to sit through crap does not mean that the current team is crap.
 
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