Blue Jays Discussion: :( well it was a hell of a ride

[Muston Atthews]

I've addressed this already multiple times, as have other posters. I'm sorry if you've failed to understand the points, they weren't terribly hard to interpret.

I get what your saying. KC lineup is built for hitting at Kauffman. They have a bunch of gap hitters and play 1st to 3rd game very well. They run the bases well and while not having tons of power they can hit homers when they move to a small park such as Rogers Centre

The Jays on the other than hit tons of homers at home and in a park like Kaufman those flyball homers are caught on the warning track or have no chance to go out.

Is what you agreed with. We have more XBH in the post season as well as having more doubles in the regular season than the Royals. So technically, the Jays have a bunch of "gap hitters" as well who can also hit the longball, something the Royals struggle to do. I don't see your point at all? The Jays seem to fit Kauffman stadium pretty damn well as well, unless you follow the narrative that all the Jays come up swinging for dingers, which as stats show, isn't true. So while your arrogance is cute, your point makes little sense.

 

[TorMapleJays]

Is what you agreed with. We have more XBH in the post season as well as having more doubles in the regular season than the Royals. So technically, the Jays have a bunch of "gap hitters" as well who can also hit the longball, something the Royals struggle to do. I don't see your point at all? The Jays seem to fit Kauffman stadium pretty damn well as well, unless you follow the narrative that all the Jays come up swinging for dingers, which as stats show, isn't true. So while your arrogance is cute, your point makes little sense.

I disagree.
jays live and die with the long ball. they are most successful when they have a approach and take pitches. when they start trying to hit 5 run shots every at bat, they fail... they also seem to struggle against pitching... good pitching trumps power hitting. No one goes oppo like I do.. remember cola and Donny shouting that......... wll.. its true.. but they got to continue to do this. situational hitting..

 

[Muston Atthews]

I disagree.
jays live and die with the long ball. they are most successful when they have a approach and take pitches. when they start trying to hit 5 run shots every at bat, they fail... they also seem to struggle against pitching... good pitching trumps power hitting. No one goes oppo like I do.. remember cola and Donny shouting that......... wll.. its true.. but they got to continue to do this. situational hitting..

You disagree with cold, hard facts. That's fine. Not my problem.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Hopefully Price is relaxed. He does not need to throw a shutout. He needs to throw a good game like he is more than capable of.

 

[tml19]

Apparently runs created by teams that can't hit are called "manufactured runs." On the other end runs created from XBH are worth less then manufactured ones. Did I miss anything?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

If they can get through Game 6, I like the Jays chances against Cueto. Although Yost probably won't wait as long if Cueto craps the bed again, with that bullpen and in a Game 7.

 

[TootooTrain]

Houston, now that's a team that is feast or famine in regards to home runs. Next we'll be hearing that home runs are rally killers.

 

[Kurtz]

Why are you presuming that the home run in Toronto has a higher percentage to be a flyout vs. a double in KC than the softly hit ball is a groundout vs. a single? If Toronto is better at longball, wouldn't it make more sense to try to find the gaps there vs playing a style they aren't suited to (never mind a style that didn't just lead them to an historic offense in a 162 game sample size) and then try to find the gaps there?

Or are you just trying to explain why the Jays are currently down 3 games to 2? If that's the case...well, based on what I've seen, your theory has more merit than the "small ball" vs. "long ball" debate I've seen. But this is baseball over a small sample size, it comes off as a bit unrealistic to look at such a small sample size and proclaim "THIS is why the Jays are failing!!".

And didn't the Jays lead the League in godp's? Wouldn't that not be the case if they were partial to making hard contact or no contact at all vs. weak contact?

I'm not sure if the Jays lead the league in GIDP, but you could be right. But it's easier to turn a DP on a hard hit ball to an infielder than on a soft grounder, I think. But that's sort of off-topic and probably merits its own discussion.

I know 5 games in a small sample size, but either it's a benefit to have home field, or it's not, right? The Royals had massively better numbers at home though the entire season, so it's definitely a benefit to them. And again, that's based more on their regular season record than their 4-1 home record thus far in the playoffs.

Even if you disregard the Jays record home/away, and their team composition, it's incredibly difficult to suggest that the Royals don't play much better at home than they do on the road for the reasons already stated.

 

[SpeakerForTheDead]

What the hell happened in here?

 

[Eyedea]

 

[King Mapes]

I disagree.
jays live and die with the long ball. they are most successful when they have a approach and take pitches. when they start trying to hit 5 run shots every at bat, they fail... they also seem to struggle against pitching... good pitching trumps power hitting. No one goes oppo like I do.. remember cola and Donny shouting that......... wll.. its true.. but they got to continue to do this. situational hitting..

They live or die with the long ball? They led the league in walks and tied for second in AVG.. While crushing the league in most other offensive categories.

 

[JS19]

Becoming more and more apparent who watches baseball and who doesn't in this thread.

 

[Muston Atthews]

They live or die with the long ball? They led the league in walks and tied for second in AVG.. While crushing the league in most other offensive categories.

Yeah those b2b2b2b dingers in the 6th inning of game 5 were beautiful.

 

[p.l.f.]

Relaying signs from.2nd base on price would suck

 

[King Mapes]

Becoming more and more apparent who watches baseball and who doesn't in this thread.

No matter what we will have that reputation. People see 40 homerun hitters and say "he always swings for the fences". Look at how much Donaldson got on. EE got off to a slow start then he got on way more as he got more healthy. Bautista's average wasn't as high but what about his walk total? The guy is still patient.

 

[TF97]

Becoming more and more apparent who watches baseball and who doesn't in this thread.

It has been quite interesting for the last few months

 

[Canada4Gold]

look at that bat flip, doesn't play the game the right way. Needs to respect the batting cage a little more

 

[Dough72]

Zaun is making me paranoid about our guys tipping pitches

partly because I am 100% convinced Stroman did. At least against one guy. He had full count on Morales and threw a curve or change designed to be chased out of the zone and Morales didn't even flinch. Didn't step toward it, didn't more his hands. No way that happens unless he knew right away it would drop out of the zone.

 

[PG Canuck]

look at that bat flip, doesn't play the game the right way. Needs to respect the batting cage a little more

LOL

 

[Dough72]

why doesn't anybody forget the words to anthems anymore?

been waiting all playoffs and it hasn't happened once

 

[TF97]

why doesn't anybody forget the words to anthems anymore?

been waiting all playoffs and it hasn't happened once

I agree. How dare they remember the words!

 

[dredeye]

Great season. Absolutely garbage game. How the **** do you go 0 for 12 with risp in a game that important. The only guy to earn his keep was Bautista. Everyone else was ****ing garbage tonight.

Although, had the garbage umps called the balk we'd be at the very least going into the bottom of the 9th. Horrible horrible horrible way to end the season

 

[dubplatepressure]

Great season. Absolutely garbage game. How the **** do you go 0 for 12 with risp in a game that important. The only guy to earn his keep was Bautista. Everyone else was ****ing garbage tonight.

Agreed. So many stupid, blown calls. Bad pitch calls, no small ball, they did it to themselves. Great season though that comeback last series was amazing.

 

[Eyedea]

Hey, that's baseball.

I look forward to next season.

 

[mikebel111*]

This stings but really proud of this team for battling adversity all season. You guys have made Canada proud.
Go Jays Go