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[SR]

But what about the gambling revenue.

That's the whole reason AM bought the franchise (other than to give the middle finger to the NBA for not letting him buy the Hawks).

I don't know why AM would go to Tribe land if he can't control the gambling revenue from a potential arena.

My guess is that there’s a shared profit of it all (ticket sales, parking, concessions, betting ect) something would have to be agreed upon. The reservation is strictly only
providing the land, that’s it. The infrastructure, build ect would be the responsibility of the Muerelo group.

Could be something could not be. I’m a little more optimistic now than I was 14 hours ago, but not by much.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

My guess is that there’s a shared profit of it all (ticket sales, parking, concessions, betting ect) something would have to be agreed upon. The reservation is strictly only
providing the land, that’s it. The infrastructure, build ect would be the responsibility of the Muerelo group.

Could be something could not be. I’m a little more optimistic now than I was 14 hours ago, but not by much.

Me too. Here’s hoping. Should’ve been option #1. Could the team have been surprised by the need to go to referendum after all?

 

[AZDesertKnight]

I can guarantee you the SRPM community would love to get Gila River badge off our jerseys, plus Talking Stick Resort Arena pt 2.. advertising, etc and shared revenue.

 

[MIGs Dog]

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I think I speak for everyone when I say the sooner the better.

 

[XX]

I feel like this summer and next season will be super toxic unless the team and SRPIC come out with something concrete ASAP.

 

[MIGs Dog]

surprised by the need to go to referendum

They probably thought it was such a good deal for Tempe that it would be a slam dunk. Underestimated the level of voter ignorance.

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

I guess it isn't over until the Mayflower moving vans show up in the middle of the night during a snowstorm to whisk the team away. Oh wait, just my Baltimore Colts departure flashback.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

My secret nuclear option, far fetched hope, is Meuerlo is reaching out to Ishbia right now, proposing a shared arena in Mesa.

Mesa is Glendale 2.0.

 

[Puck possession wins]

Could the team have been surprised by the need to go to referendum after all?

No. Was going to happen no matter what.

For me, it's more so the rejection after the Tempe City Council voted in favor of it 7-0.

If the people you elected want it, shouldn't you want it too? Especially after every single living Mayor/former Mayor of Tempe endorsed the project as well.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I mean, if you can get the LDS Ward Bishops, and Stake President's to endorse your project....

Now multiply this by an exponential factor, and you have the NHL in SLC...

If Bettman breaths, the Yotes are in Arz. And you guys were worried.

Bettman is a vampire - he doesn't breathe.

 

[Puck possession wins]

Mesa is Glendale 2.0.

Expound upon this.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I feel like this summer and next season will be super toxic unless the team and SRPIC come out with something concrete ASAP.

Every femtosecond that passes with silence from Meruelo/Bluebird erodes the sand under our feet that much more.

Expound upon this.

Terrible location and accessibility for 70% of the Valley, terrible city administration, not enough infrastructure or ability to make a worthwhile deal with the franchise... non-starter.

 

[NORiculous]

Lots of cities left in ARZ and 2 years is a long time.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I guess it isn't over until the Mayflower moving vans show up in the middle of the night during a snowstorm to whisk the team away. Oh wait, just my Baltimore Colts departure flashback.

If we get a snowstorm in the middle of the night here, *I'm* relocating.

 

[TheLegend]

If we think Tempe voters are stubborn NIMBY types, we aren’t ready for the big hairy monster that is Mesa voters. They’ve literally sat back and watched their city decay rather than invest anything ever or try anything new. Period. They’re like the old people in those hoarding shows that would rather be crushed by their own junk than change anything at all about their habits.

Hah.... Mesa is the center of the NIMBY Universe. Anyone who watched how they reacted to the Cardinals potentially building their stadium there would know.

 

[MIGs Dog]

Shared arenas make sense. Four pro teams share the Crypto.com arena in LA.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Lots of cities left in ARZ and 2 years is a long time.

Any city outside of downtown Phoenix or Tempe is going to have the same fundamental problem as Glendale - inaccessibility for a lot of people. Without a true mass transit system (which people have tried and failed to get built for 40 years, thanks to the f***ing elderly NIMBYs who keep voting against it), location is paramount for this to work.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

If it’s SRP they better have something concrete and a path to build it set by the draft. No more f***ing around

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Shared arenas make sense. Four pro teams share the Crypto.com arena in LA.

It's not the arena sharing, it's the location.

 

[LuckyNumber11]

Shared arena is an outstanding idea, however the Suns arena is in a perfect spot and just had a massive renovation that made it an incredible building. They aren't going anywhere.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Hah.... Mesa is the center of the NIMBY Universe. Anyone who watched how they reacted to the Cardinals potentially building their stadium there would know.

although.. the Cubs did manage to get Sloan Park built...on that site that had been a golf course, so....

 

[XX]

It's not the arena sharing, it's the location.

It's the financing. Which addresses the location issue because it's only possible to get deals of this size done in desirable locations. Mereulo doesn't have the ability to finance a TED size project outright without securing it via valuable land value and/or revenue producing buildings like apartments. That gave anyone buying the commercial paper a fallback.

Leaseholds on tribal land are less appealing and more complicated.

 

[Puck possession wins]

Leaseholds on tribal land are less appealing and more complicated

Which is why unless there is like some ownership stake involved for the tribe, I see no way of building an arena/district on Salt River land.

The revenue generation would be way too complex, and lord only knows if AM would be able to make any money on tribe land.

 

[AZviaNJ]

I think a lot of this is premature until they figure out where the Yotes *will* be in September. Because they'll be *somewhere*. I mean, if they are forced to have one more lame duck season in Mullett I see....5 people it affects. Everyone else will have their contracts up.

But, yeah, Keller and Crouse are the 2 players most affected, easily.

Mesa is Glendale 2.0.

I don't see that way at all. You win over LDS leaders, you win the vote.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I don't see that way at all. You win over LDS leaders, you win the vote.

Speaking as a former LDS guy, best of luck with that.