I think they could get some depth draft picks for players. Just tell me the player though and who they are willing to trade. But do you want Bill making these decisions? That could be a sticking point.
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Agree Bob has to step in and tell him GM working trades for the future . Bob does not have the b**ls to do that. Best case anyone that would be traded is a third for Duggar. Balance are 5 -7. If Bill still in charge at draft that will turn into a new long snapper, punt protector and 5th string guard that was a D3 middle linebacker.
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with the Pats out of it have any teams reached out to acquire Mac since hes a better roster away? not a chance IMO. where is the Matt Stafford package or heck even a Sam Darnold like trade package. The excuses for loss after loss arent working league wide it seems despite their being a 24-7 excuse machine industry to prop up Mac
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Ferentz's son won't return as Iowa's OC in 2024
Iowa offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz, the son of longtime coach Kirk Ferentz whose contract amid the offense's historic struggles drew national attention, will not return for the 2024 season, the school announced in a Monday statement.
Belichick is salivating over the chance to hire a failed son of a coaching friend!
Giants trade DL Williams to Seahawks for picks
The New York Giants traded defensive lineman Leonard Williams to the Seattle Seahawks on Monday.
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Do you really want Andy Dalton quarterbacking this team for the next 5 years? 87-85-2 reg season. Playoffs 0-4 with 6 picks. Mind you Dalton has/ had way better regular season stats then Majic Mac. Blow the QB room up. Salad toss the coaches Room. Fire the GM.
Jimmy G is 6/14 for 62 yards and a pick. The Raiders look absolutely foolish for moving on from Derek Carr for him.
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I don't believe many Mac supporters actually think hes good but they are dug in on their their takes and even if it takes 5 years will have to see this loss party to the finish line
It really is amazing how Josh is doing the exact same things in Vegas that he did in Denver. He drove cutler away there in favor of Kyle freaking Orton just like carr and Jimmy g in Vegas. He's making just as many horrible roster decisions and in-game decisions in Vegas. He's literally learned nothing. Eventually he'll get fired and become a good OC for someone else next year. He's just not a good head coach.
Duggar and Uche have some value. There are lots of teams that would deal for these guys. The problem is what do you get for Duggar, a third round pick and maybe a 5th or 6th for Uche? At those prices and BB's track record at drafting, we are better off keeping them, assuming we can sign them to contracts at the end of the year.
I'll stay 10 toes down saying Mac is good. He's been ruined. Rookie season he was great. This organization is a joke. The entire constructed team is horrible. Bill has to go.
Whenever shit gets it together, and there are actually good players around him to build upon, he'll succeed. Whether its here or somewhere else.
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I dont see how hes ruined. make the read and find an open receiver. Hes a first round pick. Its nobodys fault but his for stupid decisons on the field. I don't see any other QBs from NE recently, being ruined around the league. Heck even Jimmy G as not durable as he is never had an excuse manual
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Classic bill. Historically bad offense? Trade for a DE in the last year of his contract.
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The Arizona Cardinals officially trade QB Joshua Dobbs to the Minnesota Vikings with a conditional seventh-round pick in the 2024 NFL Draft in exchange for the Vikings sixth-round pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
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Having 3 offensive coordinators in 3 years. Not having a competent d-line for 2 years. No weapons. Looks scared. He doesn't look like he did his rookie year. This is on Bill.
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The Arizona Cardinals officially trade QB Joshua Dobbs to the Minnesota Vikings with a conditional seventh-round pick in the 2024 NFL Draft in exchange for the Vikings sixth-round pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
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It’s morphed into that from an untreated case of Zappe Fever….
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It’s morphed into that from an untreated case of Zappe Fever….
if Im wrong about Mac Ill admit it but batting 1000 right now. 2-6, 3 losses behind the Jets even ole zappe could do better perhaps. No teams even called for a trade offer sadly, can there be any more of a rock bottom? lets not sink the franchise more into the hole to defend some bad takes on a mid QB, we've all seen winning QB's for 20 years, this doesn't remotely resemble it
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Yes, we get it. You've been beating the same drum for a while now. You keep ignoring the reality that the overall record is a team one, not a reflection of any singular player. You've also ignored my question multiple times as to what quarterback on the roster would have this team in a playoff spot, or even with a markedly better record?
And finally, you can absolutely point out that nobody in the league called to inquire about Mac Jones' availability and that makes sense because he hasn't been great. But when you do, it rings kind of hollow because you're ignoring the fact that any team could have claimed Zappe for nothing when he was cut by the Pats and every single team passed.
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well you and others have been blaming Bill ALLLLL year so, whats the difference if I blame Mac, bc you disagree, it's not your approved opinion, fine but I'll bet you anything Bill win be better with another QB and the roster isn't at bad as you say. They took Philly to task week 1 in a winnable game and they are superbowl contenders, and handled Josh Allen well. Bill is here for a while and will get another QB who is better so we'll see then. Do I think Zappe could beat 2-6, sure I'd take that bet. With Allen and Tua in the division do I see playoffs, tall task, I wouldn't bet on that. At the end of the day this is Bills fault, pick 6 after pick 6, INT after INT, loss after loss (9-18 last 27 starts) there is no accountability at QB, even though if other players fumble there is. That's on Bill over Mac IMO. Thats enabling
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