Speculation: Weber's Contract

[Mike Jones]

Interesting note from Elliotte Friedman this evening:



What would a deal for this contract look like? Would Montreal have to add a pick? Would they demand a pick or player as compensation?

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[Junohockeyfan]

Interesting note from Elliotte Friedman this evening:



What would a deal for this contract look like? Would Montreal have to add a pick? Would they demand a pick or player as compensation?

Why would Montreal add a pick? Weber is LTIR'd. Habs don't need to dump the contract. i believe the context of the conversation was that teams would be interested in Weber's contract for cap purposes.

 

[Bond]

Maybe to Nashville if that helps them with the whole recapture thing

 

[Glen Kublick]

to the leafs

 

[BLNY]

No incentive for Montreal to add pieces.

Whether it's a team needing the LTIR relief or to reach the cap floor, any trade of Weber is doing a favor for the receiving team.

 

[Viqsi]

Maybe to Nashville if that helps them with the whole recapture thing

It doesn't and this frankly hasn't been a consideration for years.

 

[Djp]

Interesting note from Elliotte Friedman this evening:



What would a deal for this contract look like? Would Montreal have to add a pick? Would they demand a pick or player as compensation?

The last 4 years of Weber contract are very low actual salary of $1M for 3 of them. Some teams looking toget to the floor could take on his contract…but what teams can really take on that come year 4. Not many.

 

[BLNY]

The last 4 years of Weber contract are very low actual salary of $1M for 3 of them. Some teams looking toget to the floor could take on his contract…but what teams can really take on that come year 4. Not many.

What's the year 4 risk? He isn't going to officially retire.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Welcome to Arizona Webs!

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Should add some context...


The team that wants Weber's contract should give the habs something.

 

[StreetHawk]

Should add some context...


The team that wants Weber's contract should give the habs something.

Seems like the contract is destined to go to AZ like all other career ending ones like Pronger, Hossa, Bolland.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Even in injury / non-NHL status, Weber is an asset to the Habs organization! LOL

 

[Prairie Habs]

Weber has a cap hit 25 million dollars higher than his salary over the next 4 years? Hmm, isn't there a team that is cutting there gate revenue by like 75% over that exact same time period that is known for doing these kinds of trades...

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I'm not sure why the Habs would move the contract? He's on LTIR and obviously not coming back. He's not costing them anything really is he? What kind of piece would it take to acquire that contract?

 

[Soundgarden]

Maybe to Nashville if that helps them with the whole recapture thing

No

 

[sansabri]

I'm not sure why the Habs would move the contract? He's on LTIR and obviously not coming back. He's not costing them anything really is he? What kind of piece would it take to acquire that contract?

so another team can use it to give themselves more room

 

[Djp]

What's the year 4 risk? He isn't going to officially retire.

Most teams in the league who have cap space now, don’t plan on having that space in year 4.

 

[crowi]

Weber has a cap hit 25 million dollars higher than his salary over the next 4 years? Hmm, isn't there a team that is cutting there gate revenue by like 75% over that exact same time period that is known for doing these kinds of trades...

This is old stuff, they changed it.

 

[Prairie Habs]

This is old stuff, they changed it.

???

I'm talking about Arizona getting a LTIR contract with a cap hit that is greater than dollars paid. That's an evergreen suggestion. I assume you somehow thought I was talking about cap recapture for some reason?

 

[crowi]

???

I'm talking about Arizona getting a LTIR contract with a cap hit that is greater than dollars paid. That's an evergreen suggestion. I assume you somehow thought I was talking about cap recapture for some reason?

Yeah. Thought you were going on about a $25m cap hit. All good.

 

[Glen Kublick]

leafs need cap space

 

[Mal Reynolds]

I'm not sure why the Habs would move the contract? He's on LTIR and obviously not coming back. He's not costing them anything really is he? What kind of piece would it take to acquire that contract?

Couple of possible reasons ~ he technically is costing them, in the sense that they need to be cap compliant to open the season. Someone far more proficient in cap matters can probably explain it far better than me, but basically it can complicate any moves they try to make. He also takes up a contract slot.

As to your final question, I very much doubt he has much, if any, value. Sure, Montreal can play the '"We're rebuilding and don't really care" card, but teams flush with cap space will have plenty of options, some of which that will involve being paid assets to take on salary.

 

[Captain97]

Yeah. Thought you were going on about a $25m cap hit. All good.

He was talking about over the next 4 years Webers total cap hit is 25 million more than the money Arizona will have to pay.

 

[Heldig]

Should add some context...


The team that wants Weber's contract should give the habs something.

Wishful thinking.

It will definitely cost the Habs a pick or prospect.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Weber to Tampa or Toronto