Post-Game Talk: We suck - Leafs lose 4-1

[NMacrules]

Have you noticed that Dubas with his glasses is smiling and jovial whereas without his glasses, he’s serious and talks intelligently?

Thats what Adam Goldberg will look like when he grows up

 

[Canadian Finn]

How does a guy wearing a mouth guard lose a tooth so easily? Oh right, he likes to chew his mouth guard instead of wearing it properly.

Soother

 

[The Apologist]

Carolina toyed with them. Had they not quit skating in the 3rd it would have 5 or 6-1.

That's not fair. Had the Leafs not quit skating at puck drop the Canes may not have won at all ...

 

[Superstar]

How many players from the Leafs would Carolina want on their team given the amount they’re paid? I can only think of two. Matthews and Nylander and maybe not even them.

Any team would take Matthews and Nylander in a heart beat, especially Matthews.

 

[Superstar]

He is Mitch Marner (MM) and wears Mickey Mouse (MM) I think that it's an inside joke between the players that Marner is actually Mickey Mouse.

Too bad he's not Mighty Mouse.

 

[Mess]

It's sad hearing Keefe saying Carolina is a Cup contender...what the heck happen to this sad sack of a team...the Leafs are supposed to be the Cup contender!

Maybe Keefe was just looking over the NHL standings..

Toronto .. 7 games .. 2-4-1 record ... GF: 13 & GA: 23 .. Diff -10
Seattle ... 6 games ... 1-4-1 record ....GF : 13 & GA: 23 .. Diff -10

Our Leafs are playing at the same level as the expansion Seattle Kraken.

I wonder why the cap didn't kill other teams...like Carolina...oh right, they don't have Dubas gifting overpaid contracts and then having to strip the team of any depth..."It's my job to work around the margins and find players."...nice way of saying that he needs to find scraps to fill out the roster because he paid too much for some of the wrong players that make up the core 4.

Carolina on the other hand sits #2 overall 5-0-0 record (same record as Freddy Andersen has in net) tied with Edmonton 5-0-0 (lead in part by Leaf cast off Zach Hyman with 5 goals).

The players Leafs let walk have been instrumental in helping their new teams get off to undefeated starts after 5 games, while the replacements brought in to build up and support the core to replace them have our Leafs performing similar to the most recent expansion team.

 

[Aus34Matt]

How does a guy wearing a mouth guard lose a tooth so easily? Oh right, he likes to chew his mouth guard instead of wearing it properly.

So next to lose a tooth would be Matthews?

 

[Kurtz]

I wonder why the cap didn't kill other teams...like Carolina...oh right, they don't have Dubas gifting overpaid contracts and then having to strip the team of any depth..."It's my job to work around the margins and find players."...nice way of saying that he needs to find scraps to fill out the roster because he paid too much for some of the wrong players that make up the core 4.

Carolina is very good, but in fairness, they also took a step back in recent years. Went from getting swept in conference finals 2 years ago to losing 1-4 in the first and 2nd round the last two years. They look good right now, but we'll have to see how they do this year. They also lost Hamilton for nothing, which is a bit more significant than losing Hyman.

 

[Superstar]

I'm not defending Tavares or anything here, but i always find it interesting how for years people complained that no one wanted to sign here, and then people actually want to sign here like a high profile name like Tavares, and people are like "well. it's his fault, he screwed up the cap, blegh blah bluee." and if he didn't sign here. the same bunch of people who are crapping on him now, would be crapping on him that he didn't just like a heck of a lot of you did with Stamkos. and if the management DIDN'T try going for Tavares you'd be pooping on them for NOT doing it. - give or take the small few who were consistent about not wanting him.

you can't have butter on both sides of your toast and expect a clean plate. the end.

the problem with this team is them bending over and doing every single thing that the young people on this team wanted. the end Whatever they want. management submits to them as if this team is Chicago or Pittsburgh and won something during their ELCs. they didn't.

Quite frankly, they should have bridged all of these guys. Nylander, Matthews, Marner. tell them they would get their paydays when they won/accomplished something. if they Subban it up, then great. pay them. they accomplished something. I get their hockey players and they arrogant or whatever but these guys have no respect for their opponent - if they did they'd show up and play on time. they wouldn't have an attitude of "well we're so damned good, we don't have to show up until like the third period, we can put on a show and entertain people." they don't want to do the things that ensure results. they want to make the fancy highlight plays. when people in the media rightly call on them, they give smart mouth answers like again - they've accomplished something - which. they haven't. minus like two people. (Jack Campbell and Jason Spezza)

They don't have respect for their fellow players. they don't have respect for this fanbase. (as a collective whole). they don't have respect for the management (because truthfully, most people WOULD have traded some of them but dubas had faith in them, and they respond by looking like utter poop the first several games of the season? way to pay that faith forward). So quite frankly, you can fire anyone you want. but until that all gets addressed nothing is going to change.

and the fact that we have to say this again about a version of the maple leafs is disgusting. and what's worse most of the people on this team now we've drafted. they are super talented. they don't eve have the "but man theyaren't really that good" excuse.

which is pretty much why im not bothering watching this team. because when you burn it all down, and basically end up with a more talented version of entitled crap that you had before. what's the point?

You know what the irony is, Daisy? Dubas was gifted the Leafs GM job without much of any NHL experience, while Hall of Famer, Lamoriello who has won 3 Cups, was kicked to the curb by Shanahan. This management team stinks...Dubas is woke and his philosophy had trickled down to the way he runs the team and handled those contracts...you really don't need to prove much to get a big payday.

 

[Kurtz]

You know what the irony is, Daisy? Dubas was gifted the Leafs GM job without much of any NHL experience, while Hall of Famer, Lamoriello who has won 3 Cups, was kicked to the curb by Shanahan. This management team stinks...Dubas is woke and his philosophy had trickled down to the way he runs the team and handled those contracts...you really don't need to prove much to get a big payday.

People gotta stop romanticizing Lou here. Jersey fans were glad he was gone, and so were we. He won zero playoff series here, wasted Matthews, Marner and Nylanders bargain ELC deals, wasted a bunch of draft picks on trades for scrubs and saddled us with Marleau. Dubas sucking doesn't make Lou any better here.

 

[Lenovs]

magic mitch marner floating around in the defensive zone before the third canes goal - priceless.

ah, no, my bad - 10.693 mil.

 

[RavenGuard]

Leafs tanking for shane wright , we the new oilers

The Oilers never intentionally tanked for any player. They left that to the Sabers and Leafs

 

[Daisy Jane]

Dubas is woke

I have no idea what this means.

 

[justloveleafs]

First of all I love Brian Burke... always have...

MLSE of course ruined him as well as everyone else.

But watch this interview...watch it closely hold it close to your heart..

And listen to what he says, jake muzzins say about his leafs team.

One month before the scam btw...FEB 2020

 

[BigGulpsEh]

Carolina is very good, but in fairness, they also took a step back in recent years. Went from getting swept in conference finals 2 years ago to losing 1-4 in the first and 2nd round the last two years. They look good right now, but we'll have to see how they do this year. They also lost Hamilton for nothing, which is a bit more significant than losing Hyman.

So basically much better than the leafs have been able to do it that timeframe

 

[justloveleafs]

I have no idea what this means.

Its a recent phenomenon, someone who doesn't care about us the readers and just blasts something off the top of their head, with no care for proof reading their post...

Surely you are used to this, but thanks for pointing it out...

 

[Leviathan899]

Ritchie looks out of shape to me. It's noticeable once he starts moving he can't stop very well.

Ritchie has always been this way, it’ll never change. This is what he is, he’ll chip in here and there but this is what you’re going to get each game

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Tavares contract crippled this team and the cap. SHould have never been signed

I honestly feel for you Leafs fans, you have had so much pain already.

I said this the day the signing was announced, i was, if not the first who said it, one of the first
and i got ridiculed and laughed at, not by just Leafs fans, but other fan bases as well,
sure there were few likes and few who agreed with me but still..

John Tavares was just the proverbial shiny new toy to Dubas, who he just had to have.

Would bring lots of media attention, which it did
Would bring more money to the Leafs, in jersey and ticket sales, which it did

However,..the player, position the Leafs needed the least to improve; center position
the error that was the catalyst for everything that has happened after that for your beloved franchise.

The only thing Leafs needed to do was few tweeks here and there and presto,
would have gone past the 2nd round and who knows...perhaps you'd already be
SC champions by now,..if Dubas didn't do all those things what he did.

Its easy to be that guy, the hindsight 20 20 guy, i told you so guy...but....yeah.
Leafs are fuc*** for a long time, if the correct moves are not made, soon.

 

[Duanesutter12]

In terms of popularity and historical significance ya they take the cake. I’d say a close comparable would be the NY Knicks, biggest market in their country, referred to as the Mecca of basketball also, so a lot of similarities, and their drought currently sits at 49 years. Also have like 1 playoff series win in 20 years.

Although they actually look like they’ll win some rounds sooner than later.

That's the right analogy! Both are "historical" franchises that haven't won anything due to their own ineptitudes even though they have enormous resources.

 

[binop7]

That's the right analogy! Both are "historical" franchises that haven't won anything due to their own ineptitudes even though they have enormous resources.

Yeah great example. We have a few Carmelo types on the team also

 

[Duanesutter12]

I honestly feel for you Leafs fans, you have had so much pain already.

I said this the day the signing was announced, i was, if not the first who said it, one of the first
and i got ridiculed and laughed at, not by just Leafs fans, but other fan bases as well,
sure there were few likes and few who agreed with me but still..

John Tavares was just the proverbial shiny new toy to Dubas, who he just had to have.

Would bring lots of media attention, which it did
Would bring more money to the Leafs, in jersey and ticket sales, which it did

However,..the player, position the Leafs needed the least to improve; center position
the error that was the catalyst for everything that has happened after that for your beloved franchise.

The only thing Leafs needed to do was few tweeks here and there and presto,
would have gone past the 2nd round and who knows...perhaps you'd already be
SC champions by now,..if Dubas didn't do all those things what he did.

Its easy to be that guy, the hindsight 20 20 guy, i told you so guy...but....yeah.
Leafs are fuc*** for a long time, if the correct moves are not made, soon.

I've said it many times- Tavares signing with the Leafs hurt everyone involved. It was just totally not needed. The Leafs had a solid young offensive core. What they needed was toughness, defense and perhaps some veteran playoffs experience. But Dubas had to go and play fantasy hockey! No way would JT have signed with any of the other teams. JT killed his legacy with the Isles and both the team he left and the one he went to ended up worse off. Maybe you can say the Isles have been successful but we've been one step behind Tampa two years in a row and it's not a huge leap to think we would've beaten Tampa one of those years if he was on the team.

 

[Lauro]

Hahahaha, all these "I was right" posts. Ridiculous. Let's wait 20 more games. A bad start to a season could turn out as what this team needs. No, I also don't have much hope but we'll see.

 

[Lauro]

I honestly feel for you Leafs fans, you have had so much pain already.

I said this the day the signing was announced, i was, if not the first who said it, one of the first
and i got ridiculed and laughed at, not by just Leafs fans, but other fan bases as well,
sure there were few likes and few who agreed with me but still..

John Tavares was just the proverbial shiny new toy to Dubas, who he just had to have.

Would bring lots of media attention, which it did
Would bring more money to the Leafs, in jersey and ticket sales, which it did

However,..the player, position the Leafs needed the least to improve; center position
the error that was the catalyst for everything that has happened after that for your beloved franchise.

The only thing Leafs needed to do was few tweeks here and there and presto,
would have gone past the 2nd round and who knows...perhaps you'd already be
SC champions by now,..if Dubas didn't do all those things what he did.

Its easy to be that guy, the hindsight 20 20 guy, i told you so guy...but....yeah.
Leafs are fuc*** for a long time, if the correct moves are not made, soon.

Lol, YOU were the first to say that last season's new signing Lehtonen will be on the Leafs first pairing pretty soon.

 

[TGB]

They looked like zombies out there. Everyone was skating so slowly, often allowing the puck to sail by them with only half-hearted attempts to get it back. The final goal was scored purely because they weren't even trying to gain control of the puck.

They've got no heart, but the current case seems to be an energy issue. What's going on? How come a bunch of 20 something athletes are gassed after a single period? The freakin' old man has more compete level than the rookie defensemen. I don't think it's because it takes time to get going since other hockey teams seem to have no trouble keeping the foot on the gas for an entire game.

Something weird is going on with their training staff.

Hahahaha, all these "I was right" posts. Ridiculous. Let's wait 20 more games. A bad start to a season could turn out as what this team needs. No, I also don't have much hope but we'll see.

Every. Single. Time. Literally EVERY slow stretch by the Leafs is like this. What's weird is people acting like this is somehow a unique and new occurrence. Heck, you often see the exact same criticisms levied at the Leafs after a SINGLE loss. Then when they're on long winning streaks, all the naysayers disappear and you've got all the optimists talking about going all the way to the cup.

 

[Gabriel426]

Not crapping on JT but this is what another JT wrote .
It is not a good feeling. At the end of the day the solution is in our locker room. It’s everybody. I think everyone’s trying to take responsibility on how they can be better and help our team and get in the win column.
That’s why J Toews is a 3 times Stanley Cups Champs and nick name Cap Clutch.
I know Toews ain’t lighting it up but at least he seems to know what’s wrong instead of it is a learning lesson.