(We now have to look at and worry about) The Standings.

[ACC1224]

And according to Marner they are a great team doing great things...who are we to argue with his hard earned wisdom?

 

[1specter]

I just fast forward to the most extreme conclusion that they are a borderline to non playoff team this year and will probably be in a very bad place in the standings after the Winnipeg games. It’s disappointing but seems like that’s probably the outcome here.

Barring a coaching change, might have to pull a 2017 Tampa and just decide to retool by selling off assets that don't have a future here.

 

[Ciao]

I'm so glad the Leafs no longer have Kyle Dubas making them a great regular-season team anymore, which doesn't even matter anyway.

It feels much more familiar, at best, to be fighting for that eighth and final playoff spot.

Now they may as well axe Shanahan too because a string of seven straight playoff appearances is also meaningless, and without more playoff series wins they might as well just fall back into missing those as well as none of that matters.

Shit, it sucked to have a great regular-season team, eh?

Making the playoffs year-after-year, who gives a shit about that either?

Fire them all! Shanahan. Treliving. Keefe. Laurence Gilman. Wes Clarke. Hayley Wickenheiser. The entire coaching staff and front office! Leafs and Marlies -- they all suck!

Dump all those overpaid star players too! Who needs those assholes that make so much money anyway? No team has ever won with so many well-paid players -- like it'll never happen! Get rid of everyone making too much money! That would be better.

Let's start again from scratch!

 

[hullsy47]

I'm so glad the Leafs no longer have Kyle Dubas making them a great regular-season team anymore, which doesn't even matter anyway.

It feels much more familiar, at best, to be fighting for that eighth and final playoff spot.

Now they may as well axe Shanahan too because a string of seven straight playoff appearances is also meaningless, and without more playoff series wins they might as well just fall back into missing those as well as none of that matters.

Shit, it sucked to have a great regular-season team, eh?

Making the playoffs year-after-year, who gives a shit about that either?

Fire them all! Shanahan. Treliving. Keefe. Laurence Gilman. Wes Clarke. Hayley Wickenheiser. The entire coaching staff and front office! Leafs and Marlies -- they all suck!

Dump all those overpaid star players too! Who needs those assholes that make so much money anyway? No team has ever won with so many well-paid players -- like it'll never happen! Get rid of everyone making too much money! That would be better.

Let's start again from scratch!

This next stretch of games are against teams that are trying to make playoffs
These games are hard on the Leafs defenceman bigtime

 

[Egghead1999]

And according to Marner they are a great team doing great things...who are we to argue with his hard earned wisdom?

He is not wrong. The issue is that, in the same game, they did some dumb things too. They found a way to lose the games now, just like the OTT, BUF or Oilers in the early season.

 

[thewave]

4 Players now inked for 10m+

50/50 Team (+Loser points)

Unreal.

 

[Ciao]

Delete

 

[LeafGrief]

Worrying about the standings is far more fun than last year when the standings were entirely irrelevant by this point.

This team isn't very good, we might well miss the playoffs. Maybe it will light a fire under out guys and get them to ahhahahahahahaa I just can't, they don't care at all lol

 

[Ciao]

This next stretch of games are against teams that are trying to make playoffs
These games are hard on the Leafs defenceman bigtime

Yes, I think the Leafs have a whole lot of losing left in them. The team is doing very poorly, and I think they're even in jeopardy of missing the playoffs.

However, usually the team with the best players wins. If they can stay the course and make incremental changes for the better, they might just get where we all want them to go.

Just don't plan the parade route before then.

 

[34]

there’s a genuine fear and chance that the leafs could ACTUALLY miss the playoffs. very concerning.

They are going too miss the playoffs. Book it.

 

[Ciao]

They are going too miss the playoffs. Book it.

It's kind of looking that way, but there's still a lot of hockey to play.

Making or not making the playoffs -- neither outcome is certain, that's for sure.

I liked it better the other way. Then at least the Leafs had a better chance of progressing.

It's a very competitive league, is all I can say.

 

[34]

It's kind of looking that way, but there's still a lot of hockey to play.

Making or not making the playoffs -- neither outcome is certain, that's for sure.

I liked it better the other way. Then at least the Leafs had a better chance of progressing.

It's a very competitive league, is all I can say.

I agree. This team looks like they have given up. They look mentally defeated.

Maybe they will finish low enough in the standings to win the draft lottery.

 

[Antropovsky]

Currently at 50 points, and 3rd in the Atlantic, but slipping (3 losses and 1 loser point recently). 4-4-2 in their last 10. What bothers me is the +12 goal differential.

Detroit are absolutely on their heels now. (49 points and +11 goal differential). 6-3-1 in their last 10.

Most grounded people felt that TOR were not going to be as good this Regular season, but they would make the playoffs.

We are halfway through the season and it's gut check time.

I do not believe for a second that Treliving made those offseason acquisitions to be a below average team.

Toronto only has 1 key injured player now in Woll. Gio is back. Liljegren is back. Samsonov is not injured, but he is losing the confidence in his ability battle.

Let's forget about Klingberg and Reaves because they have been non factors for a while now.

What about Bertuzzi and Domi. Domi has had a pretty inconsistent career, but Bertuzzi should be a lot better. 1 goal in 22 games is not going to get him a retirement contract any time soon. He has to be a lot better.

Nylander & Tavares need to be better too.

Is this Leaf team going to make the playoffs?

How will this play out? Wait and see & then re-tool next season?

Keefe has never been good at bringing the best out of players. Everyone that plays for him generally has played or plays better elsewhere. Keefe is coaching his players around a system instead of a system around his players. It's absurd that we allowed a rookie coach to be hired by a rookie GM. Talk about arrogance.

 

[horner]

there’s a genuine fear and chance that the leafs could ACTUALLY miss the playoffs. very concerning.

Would be the best thing for this organization.

Then the real changes will be.
1 JT can we win with him NO . He looks grat at the beginning of the season then fades away we would probably have to retain 3 mill
2 Marner if he wants 12.5 mil trade him . Retain 2 mil
3 Build the defensewe will have lots of cap space
4 trade all UFAs and Kampf
5 we have alot of forward prospect that should be ready next yr
6 time to get some defensive prospects in the system

Missing the playoffs is not a bad thing.

 

[horner]

This next stretch of games are against teams that are trying to make playoffs
These games are hard on the Leafs defenceman bigtime

Seattle and Calgary on the outside but Vancouver and Winnipeg are 1 and 2 in the league

 

[Buds17]

This is unfortunately becoming increasingly true. The advantage in points and games in hand have both dwindled courtesy of winning streaks for a couple of rivals combined with our extended slide.

 

[Racer88]

This team isn’t bad enough to miss the playoffs. We have 4 of the 11 best players in all of hockey..right?

We have 4 of the most expensive 11 players in the league but if the were truly 4 of the best we wouldn’t be having this conversation about how awful we are right now. We also wouldn’t be sitting here with one round win in the last 7 years

 

[Racer88]

NO!



Amen! Find some other idiot with a better record! Preferably someone whose never missed the playoffs and wins the Stanley Cup every year -- or at least every other year -- because we've had too much of losing! Bunch of rotten losers!



Trade, buy out or terminate everyone making more than $9 million dollars! Those big contracts kill you, you can't fill out a roster! Nobody wins with too many big contracts anyways!



Hallelujah! It was much better before Shanahan arrived and the Leafs had never made the playoffs on the salary-cap era. Making the playoffs every year is soooo overrated!


We hate mediocrity! Let's fire everyone in the organization, raze the arena, demand new ownership and start from scratch!

Yes! NO MEDIOCRITY! NO MEDIOCRITY! NO MEDIOCRITY! NEVER!

So you are happy with the team……..

 

[All Mod Cons]

NO!



Amen! Find some other idiot with a better record! Preferably someone whose never missed the playoffs and wins the Stanley Cup every year -- or at least every other year -- because we've had too much of losing! Bunch of rotten losers!



Trade, buy out or terminate everyone making more than $9 million dollars! Those big contracts kill you, you can't fill out a roster! Nobody wins with too many big contracts anyways!



Hallelujah! It was much better before Shanahan arrived and the Leafs had never made the playoffs on the salary-cap era. Making the playoffs every year is soooo overrated!


We hate mediocrity! Let's fire everyone in the organization, raze the arena, demand new ownership and start from scratch!

Yes! NO MEDIOCRITY! NO MEDIOCRITY! NO MEDIOCRITY! NEVER!

Are you doing OK?

 

[GoonieFace]

We have 4 of the most expensive 11 players in the league but if the were truly 4 of the best we wouldn’t be having this conversation about how awful we are right now. We also wouldn’t be sitting here with one round win in the last 7 years

I was being sarcastic. They aren’t awful though, they’re not great either, just floating in the middle, which is worse

 

[Fogelhund]

I think we'll be 9th in the division, after the Western Swing. We aren't playing well, every one of the teams we are playing are on a hot streak.

Honestly though, I'm not worried about the standings, we need some changes to really succeed, so it doesn't matter much if we slip into the playoffs.... we aren't going anywhere.

 

[Racer88]

I was being sarcastic. They aren’t awful though, they’re not great either, just floating in the middle, which is worse

Sorry man I read it wrong.

 

[mikeyz]

Are you doing OK?

I have a feeling he’s a certain T word on here.

 

[BallardEra]

I think we'll be 9th in the division, after the Western Swing. We aren't playing well, every one of the teams we are playing are on a hot streak.

Honestly though, I'm not worried about the standings, we need some changes to really succeed, so it doesn't matter much if we slip into the playoffs.... we aren't going anywhere.

I think these guys will find a way to bail out Keefe.

It's like they have a "cool" teacher and don't want to walk into class with a new "mean" one waiting for them.

 

[Superstar]

4 Players now inked for 10m+

50/50 Team (+Loser points)

Unreal.

50 for 4, and 50 for the rest...that makes perfect sense...