Post-Game Talk: We Lost. Again. 52 Shots For. Small Building Steps. Can't Complain

[hockeyes]

He stopped three breakaways in this game, if that's isn't stealing a few saves I don't know what is. But you know what, blame the goalie, I don't care, I'm done here.

I'm not blaming him, I'm just saying he isn't a starter in this league. I have no problem losing all year for a good draft, but if Bernier is supposed to be part of the future, this rebuild will last a lot longer than expected.

 

[stavs*]

I'm not blaming him, I'm just saying he isn't a starter in this league. I have no problem losing all year for a good draft, but if Bernier is supposed to be part of the future, this rebuild will last a lot longer than expected.

Here's hoping Bibeau or Sparks develop into someone that can replace Bernier by the time our young prospect core graduate to the NHL. I would be open to trading Bernier if the package is right and includes another goalie coming back (something like a 1st and maybe a backup goalie) if someone else wants to take a chance on him right now.

 

[goatanek]

that's not fair. not two


like I said - these are the teams that they've faced

Leafs: we could have won that game. we didn't.
Boston: they don't get a cookie from me with that team. they ALWAYS play Boston tough and well.

Ottawa. They're decent
the Rangers. Impressive. they're the Rangers
the Red Wings -they don't look/sound that hot to me. just saying . but whatever .
Blues. Impressive

Pittsburgh - slow start by everyone's standards

Buffalo. They're buffalo

Toronto. again. could have been a different result, but we shot ourselves in the foot. they captalized, good on them

if this was I don't know the western gauntlet (though Anaheim sucks monkeybutt right now), or if they were like every single hot team in the league -he ll if this was even in the middle of November/December and everyone has their groove on, it would be different. It's like Us going on our 7-0 streak to start a season (where, FYI we also beat good teams) - but it just didn't seem right.

but again, i'll acknowledge i'm not that up todate with all the comings and goings on with the league.maybe they are all cracking good, and i'm diminishing things.

to me, i don't see a juggarnaught team.

Beating boston isn't a sign of a good team because they always play well against them, but playing poorly against the leafs like they always do is a sign of a terrible team getting carried by their goaltender. The habs have played their worst games against the leafs, sabres and oilers for at least 2 years now and yet it always comes as a surprise somehow. I actually can't believe that actual hockey fans believe a terrible team full of clowns can do this well in the National Hockey League in 2015 just because of a goaltender. Pretty unbelievable to me.

 

[King Leaf]

Beating boston isn't a sign of a good team because they always play well against them, but playing poorly against the leafs like they always do is a sign of a terrible team getting carried by their goaltender. The habs have played their worst games against the leafs, sabres and oilers for at least 2 years now and yet it always comes as a surprise somehow. I actually can't believe that actual hockey fans believe a terrible team full of clowns can do this well in the National Hockey League in 2015 just because of a goaltender. Pretty unbelievable to me.

Dude your post is so confusing. Are you saying they're as good as their record suggests or that there's a lot of luck and goaltending carrying an above average team at the moment? Cause that's what I personally see, the Habs are a good team, no question, but they're not the best team in the league, not even close.

 

[Drydenwasthebest]

The Habs are not a juggernaught team, they are a very good team with the world's best goalie. The thing is, though, they have scored 35 goals in 9 games. The next closest team is Washington with 29 goals in 7 games. In other words, we are more than just Price this year. We have the best goalie AND we are scoring 3 or more goals every game, so far. We still have a fantastic and young core, but we finally seem to have found that secondary scoring we have been missing AND we have a 4th line that produces points, brings energy, and is defensively responsible and trustworthy. While we can not say whether or not the Habs are the best team in the league right now(it is just too early), we can say they are one of the best in the league and have been for a few years, actually.

You know, it is kind of funny; people keep saying the Habs would be nowhere without Price, but the same could be said for almost every team if you took not only their best player away, but their best player who is also the best player at that position away. Yes, the Habs would lose more games without Price. I would imagine the same could be said if you took Crosby away from Pittsburgh or Ovechkin away from Washington. Price is our difference maker, but we are still a good team without him. I would like to point out that we won 2 games with Mike Condon during this 9-0-0 streak. Mike Condon.

 

[CBinTokyo]

The Habs are not a juggernaught team, they are a very good team with the world's best goalie. The thing is, though, they have scored 35 goals in 9 games. The next closest team is Washington with 29 goals in 7 games. In other words, we are more than just Price this year. We have the best goalie AND we are scoring 3 or more goals every game, so far. We still have a fantastic and young core, but we finally seem to have found that secondary scoring we have been missing AND we have a 4th line that produces points, brings energy, and is defensively responsible and trustworthy. While we can not say whether or not the Habs are the best team in the league right now(it is just too early), we can say they are one of the best in the league and have been for a few years, actually.

You know, it is kind of funny; people keep saying the Habs would be nowhere without Price, but the same could be said for almost every team if you took not only their best player away, but their best player who is also the best player at that position away. Yes, the Habs would lose more games without Price. I would imagine the same could be said if you took Crosby away from Pittsburgh or Ovechkin away from Washington. Price is our difference maker, but we are still a good team without him. I would like to point out that we won 2 games with Mike Condon during this 9-0-0 streak. Mike Condon.

I think if you took anyone away from the Leafs, we wouldn't look that different...Not saying that's a good thing.

The Habs beat us fair and square, and on the back end if a back to back.

But we are looking much better in many ways and I think that bodes well for us, especially once we start injecting some talent.

 

[MapleLeafs9]

Even after their 0-8 start. Columbus now has the same amount of wins as the Maple Leafs. Lets just take a moment to let that sink in...

 

[Funk21]

Even after their 0-8 start. Columbus now has the same amount of wins as the Maple Leafs. Lets just take a moment to let that sink in...

Who has less talent?, who has played better?, who is hoping to get a lottery pick?

Answer: I'll take the Leafs for 1000 Alex

Look if it wasn't for Carey Price that game yesterday is a leafs win, I could care less about results this year as it is all about them learning how to play the system. Add our kids to the mix, maybe a big free agent or two and who knows where we will be next year.

 

[hockeystick89]

Shades of the Jason Blake era.

Is Bernier our Vesa Toskala?

That was still a more entertaining game to watch than 99% of the games last year.

 

[BeleafInShanaplan]

Good effort. Outshot them. Did a lot better than Buffalo so that's a good sign. Get another really good pick at the end of the year then inject some talent into the roster the next few years. Looking good for down the road.

 

[p.l.f.]

Doug McLean assured us bernier was the real deal when we got him

 

[Lubo]

The Habs are not a juggernaught team, they are a very good team with the world's best goalie. The thing is, though, they have scored 35 goals in 9 games. The next closest team is Washington with 29 goals in 7 games. In other words, we are more than just Price this year. We have the best goalie AND we are scoring 3 or more goals every game, so far. We still have a fantastic and young core, but we finally seem to have found that secondary scoring we have been missing AND we have a 4th line that produces points, brings energy, and is defensively responsible and trustworthy. While we can not say whether or not the Habs are the best team in the league right now(it is just too early), we can say they are one of the best in the league and have been for a few years, actually.

You know, it is kind of funny; people keep saying the Habs would be nowhere without Price, but the same could be said for almost every team if you took not only their best player away, but their best player who is also the best player at that position away. Yes, the Habs would lose more games without Price. I would imagine the same could be said if you took Crosby away from Pittsburgh or Ovechkin away from Washington. Price is our difference maker, but we are still a good team without him. I would like to point out that we won 2 games with Mike Condon during this 9-0-0 streak. Mike Condon.

Montreal has the highest PDO in the league.

The season is long, the numbers will normalize.

Enjoy the run while it lasts. #realitycheck

 

[PhysicX]

Morgan Rielly is good.
Dion Phaneuf is disappointing.

Your team lacks talent up front (got some nice young guns in your farm) and my biggest worry would be between the pipes. I don't know what to think anymore about Bernier... Can he be a first-string goalie?

My thoughts.

 

[Funk21]

Morgan Rielly is good.
Dion Phaneuf is disappointing.

Your team lacks talent up front (got some nice young guns in your farm) and my biggest worry would be between the pipes. I don't know what to think anymore about Bernier... Can he be a first-string goalie?

My thoughts.

Dion is Dion, overpaid for what he is but not as bad as everybody says he is. Bernier is not a bonnafied number one in my books. He is a stop gap and decent 1b but you'll never win a cup with him. The old regime would have given him a long term over inflated contract and said be the man now. I'll take the effort all day long and with a up and comer or two plus a few prized free agents who knows.

 

[Morguee]

Since Leafs management is trying to make the team a safe place for players maybe the Mods should follow the example on the Leaf boards. If Leaf fans were on other teams boards like Hab fans tonight they would be deleted and banned. If I wanted to debate the Habs I will go to the main board or their board(and get an infraction).

Leaf fans take huge flak on the main boards and seem to be one of the few team boards to let other fans troll at their leisure.

 

[Cor]

Morgan Rielly is good.
Dion Phaneuf is disappointing.

Your team lacks talent up front (got some nice young guns in your farm) and my biggest worry would be between the pipes. I don't know what to think anymore about Bernier... Can he be a first-string goalie?

My thoughts.

Phaneuf has been very good this season. Took a dumb penalty last night, but he owned up to it

Yes he can. Just needs to get over the softies. Outside of those he's good. Easier said than done though.



Love how Hab fans have been coming to our boards thinking they can analyze our team for us If we tried to do that, they'd be so pissed.

(Note: Not directed at PhysicX, more about the ones coming over last night)

 

[-DeMo-]

I've seen good goalies make saves on goal #3 multiple times. Look at the good goalies, they very rarely let those in unless its a wicked deflection

When the broadcasters are even saying the 5-hole goal was weak, you don't need to be a hockey expert to see it was weak. If Bernier wants to be a good goalie and starter in the NHL for that matter, he's got to stop letting these types of goals in. He's been letting in poor goals since he signed with the Leafs.

I was on the Bernier bandwagon when he signed, but I'm done sugarcoating his play and taking the blame off him. If he sucks, I'll just tell it how it is.

yet it was Price who let in the weakest goal of the night on a wrist shot from outside the circle.

 

[NikoPopp]

Even after their 0-8 start. Columbus now has the same amount of wins as the Maple Leafs. Lets just take a moment to let that sink in...

Yeah, Columbus should be really embarrassed. They are expected to make the playoffs. We are expected to be bottom five.

 

[Dhaemon]

I think TO should make a deal with the Ottawa Sens and grab Matthew O'Connor. His only NHL loss was vs the habs and he faced 34 shots. He got a great GAA in the AHL.

Currently he is in the AHL (2 year contract with the Sens) right now as Hammond is off the injury list.

Just from a Hab fans perspective, I think he could be a amazing goalie for the Leafs. The Leafs worked their ass off while Bernier just kicked the wind out of their sails and that's not fair imo. He needs to go!

 

[deletethis]

Dion Phaneuf played tough minutes last night against Montreal's killer 5, had zero goals against and once again the only focus is on some minutia. In this case a penalty he took. Show one Leaf who was mistake free last night. Meanwhile the Leafs' 3rd defense pairing was horrible again and probably the difference in this game.

 

[Banic]

Since Leafs management is trying to make the team a safe place for players maybe the Mods should follow the example on the Leaf boards. If Leaf fans were on other teams boards like Hab fans tonight they would be deleted and banned. If I wanted to debate the Habs I will go to the main board or their board(and get an infraction).

Leaf fans take huge flak on the main boards and seem to be one of the few team boards to let other fans troll at their leisure.

The Habs fans who have come here have been nothing but respectful. People are allowed to state their opinions, if anything I want to see more of what they've done. Opinions without personal attacks.

 

[thewave]

Picking on Dion should cease really. I mean, he's been pretty good. Can we not just cut this team some slack as a whole?

Its a rebuild damnit.

 

[FifthLine]

The Habs are the biggest pretenders in the league. They literally rely on price to win them every game. They give up 53 shots to a team who is trying to tank lool. No number one centre and extremely average all round minus Subban and Pac.

 

[hullsy47]

Who has less talent?, who has played better?, who is hoping to get a lottery pick?

Answer: I'll take the Leafs for 1000 Alex

Look if it wasn't for Carey Price that game yesterday is a leafs win, I could care less about results this year as it is all about them learning how to play the system. Add our kids to the mix, maybe a big free agent or two and who knows where we will be next year.

or i we had carry price we have 4 wins ...

 

[deletethis]

I haven't anything read a single nasty Montreal fan post in this thread (were they deleted?). Of course it's easy to be gracious when your team is flying high winning games they shouldn't be winning and playing a rival they don't currently regard as a threat.