we are so SOFT. We will never win like this

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I’m much too young and innocent to understand what this is referencing.
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I like ROR. He was apparently offered the same money to stay in TOR. Rielly is a good guy and a top dog. He can't be a top dog in TOR. JT and AM are the top dogs in TOR. Does that give a bit of perspective?
If you were offered the same money to live in Toronto or Nashville, what would you pick?
 
The games the Leafs initiate contact is maybe 15%. The games we retaliate is 85%. Could be generous. Until that changes we will never see a Conference Final. Hell I'll take 40% initiate. That would change our team for the better drastically.
 
Its def keefe. He's neutering the players

Also, the fans seem to be the only ones outraged. Why havent the media said anything about the lack of response from the leafs?
 
If you were offered the same money to live in Toronto or Nashville, what would you pick?
That's a tough one. I live and work in TOR, so I probably wouldn't choose the NSH option. I have been through Tennessee before. I don't know.

I certainly don't know what ROR knows about TOR. Maybe he didn't get along with the Captain, or the Equipment Manager. Who knows?
 
Its def keefe. He's neutering the players

Also, the fans seem to be the only ones outraged. Why havent the media said anything about the lack of response from the leafs?

The media has been covering this all day today. The reporters who cover the Leafs haven't asked the tough questions though.
 
What other big, tough, successful, manly man teams do when their player is hurt:



Nothing.

One isolated incident out of hundreds of examples of the exact opposite throughout the course of hockey history lol. Way to pick your spots bud.

I typically defer to the experts on these matters:

 
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Reaves yapped, no one else said a word, they couldn't even look at Marchand. The next shift no one went near him, not even to say hello.
Keefe should be fired over this no response.
I said a week ago Reaves will not defend those who will not defend themselves. It just happened.
Reaves did not fix the room, the room turned him into a p***y. It is very hard to like this team.

Really do need to fire Keefe for this
 
That's a tough one. I live and work in TOR, so I probably wouldn't choose the NSH option. I have been through Tennessee before. I don't know.

I certainly don't know what ROR knows about TOR. Maybe he didn't get along with the Captain, or the Equipment Manager. Who knows?

It also seems he found the media/public pressure to be a bit much here. It's a quieter life in Nashville.
 
If you were offered the same money to live in Toronto or Nashville, what would you pick?
He has a Cup already and JT has the spot he would most covet. Nashville is one of the three lowest tax markets in the league and the Leafs are the highest. Is Keefe a gifted coach that would draw players to play for him? Is the gang a close knit motivated group focused on supporting each other towards bringing a dynasty to Toronto? Was the last playoff run a taste of a championship just around the corner? Especially with the Cup already I am not surpised.
Its def keefe. He's neutering the players

Also, the fans seem to be the only ones outraged. Why havent the media said anything about the lack of response from the leafs?
Kypreos was roasting them pretty good today but its not like this is anything new. The media is generally protective of management because they dont want to be shut out and the rest of it is regurgitating the kinder things the fans are saying to get the looks.
 
The games the Leafs initiate contact is maybe 15%. The games we retaliate is 85%. Could be generous. Until that changes we will never see a Conference Final. Hell I'll take 40% initiate. That would change our team for the better drastically.
Im very curious what Tre is thinking because everything you just said is what he said he wanted from the leafs....to initiate and not just respond.

Its def keefe. He's neutering the players

Also, the fans seem to be the only ones outraged. Why havent the media said anything about the lack of response from the leafs?
Every podcast or hockey site Im watching/listening/reading is nothing but the lack of response from the leafs?
 
It's nothing to do with softness but poor roster composition and poor penalty killing.
4th line of Reaves, Kampf, and Holmberg have combined for a whopping 0 points while being scored on 7 times. Reaves imo, should not even be in the NHL. He's a liability and does not scare anyone on the other team.
And also other signings like Domi and Bertuzzi who have been awful.
The penalty kill is ranked near the bottom. These combined have led to losses.
 
Its def keefe. He's neutering the players

Also, the fans seem to be the only ones outraged. Why havent the media said anything about the lack of response from the leafs?

I don't watch sports media very often but the roundtable was all over the Leafs last night in the second intermission and my understanding is they were harder on them on the radio today. I think a tipping point has been reached and no one can gloss this over anymore.
 
If you were offered the same money to live in Toronto or Nashville, what would you pick?

Never been to Nashville but you'd have to pay me a hell of a lot of money to live in Toronto. Now ask the question again using where I live in Burlington and I will give you a different answer. Or Canmore. Or Penticton. Or Old Quebec City, or...many places I've been in this (still) beautiful country. Just not the hellhole that is Toronto now (sadly - it was awesome not that long ago).
 
The big 4 were buzzing last night, would you have wanted one of them to drop the gloves with Marchand and be in the box for 5? Surely anyone else on the team could have stepped up.
There would be nothing wrong with a big guy like Matthews giving one of the Bruins a clean hard hit and letting them know it was all because of Marchand.

It's not like anyone needs to drop the gloves to fight, just send the other team the message that their players can be targeted for some old fashion clean rough treatment in response to a dirty play.

I might say I wanted a stick broken over Marchand's head in anger, however in reality, all I want is some repeated clean hard checks made on Pasternak to send a message that Marchand's actions will not be tolerated next shift / next game etc.

As I coach, I use to ask my players to retaliate any dirty play by laying repeated clean hits on the opposing teams best players. It usually toned down the other teams aggressiveness pretty darned quick.
 
If you were offered the same money to live in Toronto or Nashville, what would you pick?
They have not printed enough money to make me live in Toronto. All you see on the news is shootings stabbings, hit and runs and assaults on theTTC or Subway.
no thanks
 

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