we are so SOFT. We will never win like this

[Larcos_Unal]

I don't care if he scores 40 goals and 80 points, Tavares needs to show some f***ing emotion out there. You see him just sitting there on the bench staring into the abyss as Reaves and Marchand are chirping? I guarantee you he's the only captain in the NHL who's that disengaged.

He may be still be a great player, but he's also a chickenshit, dopey robot who is not captain material.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

Rielly has 3 times more fights than all of our core 4 combined.

 

[Enga Olly]

Bertuzzi is a bum. Not part of the team at all, hope it changes but right now worse than useless. covid-denying idiot gtfo don't wait for the year to finish you bum

 

[67leafs]

This team is an embarrassmen!
no emotion, no fight, no pride……no BALLS!

 

[LeafSteel]

Last time I saw p***yes that big was at the Atherley in Orillia at least 10 years ago.

I’m much too young and innocent to understand what this is referencing.

 

[francis246]

Bertuzzi is a bum. Not part of the team at all, hope it changes but right now worse than useless. covid-denying idiot gtfo don't wait for the year to finish you bum

God I miss bunting

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

A fine line separates a fanatic from a lunatic.

I may have crossed that line. At minimal it's a blur. What's crystal clear, however, is that this team of softies is NEVER gonna win a damn thing.

But what really boggles my mind is that there are STILL people who think these pacifist wimps will get it done.

I'd really like to know where all the optimism is coming from because, I'm sorry, but I don't see these losers ever contending for a cup. I am well aware that me calling a team of millionaires a lot more successful than I'll ever be "losers" seems ironic. Until you realize I don't get paid millions of dollars to win.

They do.

Which they haven't. And if they're not winners they must be losers. It's either one or the other.

There is no other choice.

The only difference between a lunatic and a fanatic is that one is crazy. The other is stupid. I'm not entirely sure where I sit.

But I know what I'd rather be.

 

[Hellcat]

What other teams do when your player is hurt

 

[Gary Nylund]

What other teams do when your player is hurt

I'd say that that's what all teams do. We don't have a team, instead we have a bunch of gutless pukes who have no interest in being part of a team.

 

[Amadeus]

This team overall has assumed the personality of their highest paid players. All of them a really nice, cool dudes but they have no toughness or pushback if they get bullied. They dont have what it takes to stand up for their team mates. Just doesn't come naturally to them.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

What other teams do when your player is hurt

Big difference between a multiple Cup winner and a bunch of chickenshit diva individuals

 

[Golden_Jet]

I always go back to that cursed Amazon series. Right after we traded for Foligno and he was playing that hard nose style the Leafs wanted him for Keefe is on the bench telling him he doesn’t want him fighting.

That fight against Perry when he accidentally collided with Tavares, even after, Nick acknowledges Perry didn’t do it on purpose, but still felt the need to stick up for his teammate.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Looky looky, every chart I saw shows his shots occurring 10 ft farther from the net against Fla. and TB.

You haven't seen a shot chart that says that because that's not even how shot charts work.
What you're referencing is a media personality referencing a misleading microstat regarding percentage change in average individual shot distance from regular season to playoffs.
What the shot chart shows is how that came to be. He had a shot outside the zone skewing his average, and he had a grand total of 2 extra long range shots than his average.
Why did he have 2 extra long range shots than his average? Easy. Because they ran a set play against Vasilevsky that he was weak to. This was widely public information during the series. They had whole intermission segments about it.
And were these extra long range shots the death of us? Quite the opposite. He literally scored 3 of those 7 shots.
You've decided to ignore this very obvious reason, and the outcome, and instead attempt to attribute this microstat to other things that you have zero evidence of.

We are transitioning him and AM into d guys firdt because this Leaf management is unable to fill in the blanks around him.

Neither are defense first guys. They are just also elite defensively. That is never a bad thing, and has nothing to do with the team around them.

What are you talking about? According to you there is no blame to shift in the first place !

Whether I think there is blame is irrelevant. He is assigning blame. And he is shifting that blame to the wrong person, based on nothing, to avoid acknowledging that he was wrong.

 

[Dekes For Days]

What other teams do when your player is hurt

What other big, tough, successful, manly man teams do when their player is hurt:



Nothing.

 

[mikeyz]

Ohhhh wow. I didn't see this. Okay. Klingberg is immune from any criticism for a while in my books.

I’m much too young and innocent to understand what this is referencing.

I know exactly what he's referring to. LMFAO

 

[mikeyz]

Last time I saw p***yes that big was at the Atherley in Orillia at least 10 years ago.

Is it sad that I know exactly what you're referring to? LMFAO

the team is soft and typically a soft team is the embodiment of their captain. Teams typically take on their captain's identity.

Tavares has no emotion and the rest of the team follows suit. After that hit everyone on the ice should have attacked the RAT and tried to get at him and who care if they scored while they were attacking the RAT.

Of course the top line was on and they are soft as butter but where was GIO? In Calgary he would have been the 1st one there going after the RAT.

I wonder if MLSE has neutered the team saying we want a fan-kid-friendly brand of hockey so they can sell tons of high priced tickets.

I hope TREE goes down to the team meeting today and puts the clip of Lilly getting smoked and then everyone on the bench but Reeves just sitting there silent on the bench. Hopefully Tree lights them up and says we are a soft bunch of p***yes and you will never win 4 rounds of playoffs playing p***y hockey.

You wonder why guys like O'Reilly say there was something missing on that team and part of the reason why he left. He is a warrior and probably realized this core is soft so no matter how many Reaves you bring in it won't change the culture

I started a thread about this earlier. This was exactly why he bolted for Nashville.

 

[horner]

It starts from the top. We (the fans, the media, the organization most importantly) have coddled the stars in the post-Lou era. The coddled stars are pillow soft.

They signed Marleau to teach them the way.
Soft and coddled

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

What happened guys? I thought Reaves deterred this kind of stuff from ever happening? I was told the intimidation factor made it worth playing a large oaf who is a complete liability

 

[RunItBackAgain]

What other big, tough, successful, manly man teams do when their player is hurt:



Nothing.

The difference is only one person on TB saw the hit and he probably only caught it out of the corner of his vision and he got right into Bunting's face. The other plays referenced above and the one last night, all 9 other players saw what happened right in front of them.

 

[TorMapleJays]

RoR left shortly after signing Sheldon to an extension.

 

[Aloysius]

Last time I saw p***yes that big was at the Atherley in Orillia at least 10 years ago.

Did they have a full head of hair like the Leaf p***ies?

 

[Niagara Bill]

You haven't seen a shot chart that says that because that's not even how shot charts work.
What you're referencing is a media personality referencing a misleading microstat regarding percentage change in average individual shot distance from regular season to playoffs.
What the shot chart shows is how that came to be. He had a shot outside the zone skewing his average, and he had a grand total of 2 extra long range shots than his average.
Why did he have 2 extra long range shots than his average? Easy. Because they ran a set play against Vasilevsky that he was weak to. This was widely public information during the series. They had whole intermission segments about it.
And were these extra long range shots the death of us? Quite the opposite. He literally scored 3 of those 7 shots.
You've decided to ignore this very obvious reason, and the outcome, and instead attempt to attribute this microstat to other things that you have zero evidence of.

Neither are defense first guys. They are just also elite defensively. That is never a bad thing, and has nothing to do with the team around them.

Whether I think there is blame is irrelevant. He is assigning blame. And he is shifting that blame to the wrong person, based on nothing, to avoid acknowledging that he was wrong.

Haha....you know Mitchy cannot play tough hockey and should not be coached to play like that. He is a superior talent not bring used properly. Cut him loose.
Stop with your bs stats. When he plays behind the play he gets beat up and controlled physically. When they retreat to try and catch him, he is great. Stop playing him either Buntings and Bert's. Get a defensive forward and turn them loose. Having a 10.5m player covering for a Klingberg or Brodie is wrong.

 

[Maple Leaf]

time to retool

 

[egd27]

The big 4 were buzzing last night, would you have wanted one of them to drop the gloves with Marchand and be in the box for 5? Surely anyone else on the team could have stepped up.

Without any hesitation whatsoever. It would be the greatest thing that could happen to this organization moving forward.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

In the words of Craig Robinson: Soft as baby shit. It's embarrassing really. For the team, not me.