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WCF Gm#5, KINGS#3 @ BLACKHAWKS#3 - 5/28, 2OT 5-4 Loss.

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Quick didn't play well, made some big stops, gave his team a chance to win. But still he can play better.
 
What instills confidence is that Quick usually bounces back after performances like that. He saw 45 shots, stopped 40 of them, made a few big stops, but he also could've been better.

Gave up way too many rebounds right in front of the net, but I also noticed Crawford was having similar problems with handling the puck and rebounds dropping in front of him.

Not sure what was up with the pucks or whatever it was, but let's hope they clean that crap up and also play better in front of Quick.
 
Tonellisghost said:
I agree. I am only saying that the first PP that the Hawks got to start the game and get the scoring going was bunk. But I don't think that the refs were really playing favorites or anything like that. I mean we didn't lose the game due to any officiating issues.

Next game.
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Soft call on the Toews one, but the Kings have to make the kills. You gotta keep Chicago's special teams off the board. The Kings PP was not very good this game, and it would have helped.

Have to win the special teams battle to advance.
 
MsWoof said:
What? Slava was responsible for the first goal. The OT goal was not Quick's fault, Zus had no coverage. Slava is taking a split second too long when he's making decisions and that's the issue. That comes from a lack of confidence so hopefully he will do some good things to get it back.

On to the next game.
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Its impossible to play perfect defense. Quick was a sieve the first period. And that's that. He looked like an average goalie when he's supposed to be the best in the world. So yes imo he was by far the worst player out there.
 
Tough game tonight. Quick was obviously very poor in his rebound control, and their depth beat ours soundly tonight.

I think it's important to acknowledge that the Hawks adjusted their game a bit tonight, though, and it wasn't just our guys playing poorly. Their forwards were a lot stronger coming back through the neutral zone than they have been all series. They were also connecting on a lot of longer passes from defense to forwards. I don't know if I'd call them stretch passes, but they were able to pass around our forecheck too much.

They did what the Sharks and Ducks did when they were successful against us: got us into a track meet. We will NEVER win those games in which we trade chances on the rush, and Chicago played with enough speed to get us doing that. They backed off our defense all night, and it was only a matter of time before the coverage broke down.

Still though, I like that we were still able to penetrate their defense and get bodies and pucks at Crawford. This Hawks team is good and fast, and we need to slow the game down somewhat, but their defense just isn't that good. I think we'll continue to score goals against them, and just need a better performance from Quick to beat them.
 
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Reclamation Project said:
this thread should go places...
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Is it a coincidence that we have a bad game whenever Joanette is assigned to ref it??? I counted 5 losses so far with him just in these playoffs... Is he just incompetent or flat out bad luck???
 
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agentfouser said:
Tough game tonight. Quick was obviously very poor in his rebound control, and their depth beat ours soundly tonight.

I think it's important to acknowledge that the Hawks adjusted their game a bit tonight, though, and it wasn't just our guys playing poorly. Their forwards were a lot stronger coming back through the neutral zone than they have been all series. They were also connecting on a lot of longer passes from defense to forwards. I don't know if I'd call them stretch passes, but they were able to pass around our forecheck too much.

Still though, I like that we were still able to penetrate their defense and get bodies and pucks at Crawford. This Hawks team is good and fast, and we need to slow the game down somewhat, but their defense just isn't that good. I think we'll continue to score goals against them, and just need a better performance from Quick to beat them.
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Being able to score is a good feeling, you never feel like the team is out of the game.

This Kings team can score, they just need to tighten up some things.
 
damacles1156 said:
Don't think the Forwards were a problem, Mitchell/Slava was.

Home ice Sutter won't be putting that pairing out there. That had to be the worst game I have seen Mitchell ever play in the playoff's.

He couldn't do anything right, the puck seemed to always find him as well. When it's going bad , the puck is going to find you. Also made worse by having Slava on the other side.
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If Muzzin and Doughty are on the ice against Toews (as they should be) you have to pick your poison with the bottom two pairings.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
If Muzzin and Doughty are on the ice against Toews (as they should be) you have to pick your poison with the bottom two pairings.
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A-Mart/Greene did ok, They can at least move the puck with pace.

Mitchell/Slava are just not moving the puck well. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Sutter sheltered Mitchell/Slava at home.

Boy how good is Doughty/Muzzin, they are on fire this playoff's.
 
The Kings showed some major fortitude to come back from down two goals yet again in Chicago, the Kings came within a goal post of doing something twice in this series that hadn't been done in 17 years.

The only issue I have with this game is that it's painfully obvious what lines are going to score for the Kings and what lines are going to be scored against. Talk about +/- being a flawed stat all you want but when every forward is a plus except for the three guys on one line who now stand at a -6, -6 and -4, maybe just maybe you don't send them out for a regular shift in OT games. I know the in thing right now is to talk about rolling four lines, but the Kings fourth line was absolutely pitiful tonight and should not have been taking OT shifts. If Versteeg and Bolig are glued to the bench why can't Clifford and Lewis?

I thought the third line was the biggest reason the team was above water in the first period, obvious Stoll scores a huge goal and then they come out with a momentum changing shift when it was 3-1 and the Kings score to make it 3-2 shortly after. But they faded big time after one, I've long been a Dwight King supporter but at this point you have to ask what he is contributing.

Top 6 forwards were again spectacular, just wish they had gotten quite a bit more icetime.

Oh well, didn't expect two wins in Chicago in this series, expected the Kings to steal one in Chicago (mission accomplished) and hold serve at Staples. I expect that to happen Friday.
 
Herby said:
The Kings showed some major fortitude to come back from down two goals yet again in Chicago, the Kings came within a goal post of doing something twice in this series that hadn't been done in 17 years.

The only issue I have with this game is that it's painfully obvious what lines are going to score for the Kings and what lines are going to be scored against. Talk about +/- being a flawed stat all you want but when every forward is a plus except for the three guys on one line who now stand at a -6, -6 and -4, maybe just maybe you don't send them out for a regular shift in OT games. I know the in thing right now is to talk about rolling four lines, but the Kings fourth line was absolutely pitiful tonight and should not have been taking OT shifts. If Versteeg and Bolig are glued to the bench why can't Clifford and Lewis?

I thought the third line was the biggest reason the team was above water in the first period, obvious Stoll scores a huge goal and then they come out with a momentum changing shift when it was 3-1 and the Kings score to make it 3-2 shortly after. But they faded big time after one, I've long been a Dwight King supporter but at this point you have to ask what he is contributing.

Top 6 forwards were again spectacular, just wish they had gotten quite a bit more icetime.
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The Top six looked gassed even with the Ice time spread, the solution is not to ice them more.

I wish Kopitar/Carter could play 35 minutes a game, he can't. Unfortunately the Kings have to roll four lines to keep people fresh. We have to hope the bottom six keeps its head above water and doesn't hurt the Kings.

You can't make this a two line team, that is what has pretty much put the Hawks in the hole they are in (making themselves a two line team).

Richards did a very good job tonight keeping his shifts short, but it left the lines a little jumbled and when Richards left the ice, that Fourth line got exposed.
 
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Nose of Sutter said:
Anyone else notice that King had 5 more minutes of ice time than Pearson did? What the hell Sutter?
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The third line did some great things early in this game, but I saw way way way to much of 74-28-14-13-10-22 on the ice with a chance to eliminate the Hawks tonight, and ultimately the fourth line ends up out there for 3 goals against.

Everytime it appears Sutter is ready to just let the younger players free a little bit he falls back to the veteran players.
 
Nose of Sutter said:
Anyone else notice that King had 5 more minutes of ice time than Pearson did? What the hell Sutter?
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Pearson and Toffoli may not have the conditioning to play 15+ minutes.

The top six was gassed even with the spread ice time.

Sutter has kept Toffoli/Pearson right around 9-12 minutes, and they have looked fresh and good all series long. No need to mess with that.
 
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