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WCF: Edmonton Oilers vs. Colorado Avalanche ( Avs lead 3-0 )

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Dirty Dan said:
They lost by 1 goal twice to the best team in the league, Col is the team that exposes Edmontons lack of defensive skill and goaltending, no shame
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When did Colorado become the best team in the league?

Before the series, Oilers fans thought they’d win. Now they’re getting swept and it’s the best team in the league. :laugh:

The back to back Cup winners are still in the playoffs. If NYR eliminates them, they take the title unless Colorado wins the Cup.

Colorado is the 3rd best remaining team currently, with the easiest path to the Cup. Faced one real team missing their #1G.
 
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John Klingberg is available for the Oilers to sign this summer. He's your man to fix all their defense issues. :popcorn:
 
PromisedLand said:
Wings, Kings and Rangers are the team of the future as it stands right now IMO. Darkhorse: Sens, Sabres if they don't F up

Habs drafting wright and having Wright, Suzuki as a 1-2 punch down the middle may be one of those teams too but their goalie/defense situation is not that good IMO

Also as a Leafs fan I am obliged to hate the habs with everything I got. But that pos org keeps on adding people I love and cannot hate. Price being one of them and now they added St. Louis. Its just wrong! :laugh:
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good call. Big upcoming draft for those teams. Imo, Fla is still in good shape yet they may have cap issues soon. Lot of kids though. Something is missing in Carolina. How ironic, they have so many ex-Rangers and look like the Rangers team from years ago which worked so hard and nothing was easy.
 
NYSPORTS said:
good call. Big upcoming draft for those teams. Imo, Fla is still in good shape yet they may have cap issues soon. Lot of kids though. Something is missing in Carolina. How ironic, they have so many ex-Rangers and look like the Rangers team from years ago which worked so hard and nothing was easy.
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IMO Rangers are in a perfect position of all teams, as it stands right now, to have good runs in the next decade or so and probably get 2 to 3 cups out of it.

Rangers have their young guys on ELCs; Fox is locked up; they gotta just bridge their young guys so that when they are up for new contracts Zibby, Panarin, Kreider are at the end of theirs.

Rangers just gotta be careful on throwing away the 1st round picks and draft decent.

If you are a Rangers fan you should feel pretty good. As a Leafs fan we were in that situation until the GM completely f***ed over the Leafs
 
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Foppberg said:
At a cost though. Girard, Burakovsky, Kuemper, Kadri..
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Nashville and the Oilers were not quality playoff wins. The Blues were certainly a quality playoff win (that was the real WCF), but the series really changed when Bennington went out.

By contrast, the Rangers have had tough battles the entire way in the Squidgame EC and would have been a difficult climb for the Avs even with a healthy Kuemper and Kadri.
 
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Divine said:
When did Colorado become the best team in the league?

Before the series, Oilers fans thought they’d win. Now they’re getting swept and it’s the best team in the league. :laugh:

The back to back Cup winners are still in the playoffs. If NYR eliminates them, they take the title unless Colorado wins the Cup.

Colorado is the 3rd best remaining team currently, with the easiest path to the Cup. Faced one real team missing their #1G.
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Colorado during the season was the best team in the west I don’t think anyone would debate that. In the playoffs they have been the best team in the nhl. They’ve lost 2 games.
 
It’s funny that people assume this Colorado team will have huge cap issues, didn’t MacKinnon already come out and say he would take another team friendly contract?
 
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With ticket prices in Edmonton, the Oilers should include a broom with Game 4 tickets as a complimentary gesture for the fans
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If you could share some of your team's chokevibes with the avs that would be appreciated.
 
That intimidating atmosphere sure was quiet enough to hear pins drop last night after the Kadri hit…
 
PromisedLand said:
IMO Rangers are in a perfect position of all teams, as it stands right now, to have good runs in the next decade or so and probably get 2 to 3 cups out of it.

Rangers have their young guys on ELCs; Fox is locked up; they gotta just bridge their young guys so that when they are up for new contracts Zibby, Panarin, Kreider are at the end of theirs.

Rangers just gotta be careful on throwing away the 1st round picks and draft decent.

If you are a Rangers fan you should feel pretty good. As a Leafs fan we were in that situation until the GM completely f***ed over the Leafs
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the cap will catch them. Yes, they have to rotate the stock and draft well.

The playoff darling includes Chytil and imo, he’s probably not the long term solution. He shoots, that’s it. He’s getting a lot of love yet look closely. Who is making who better?

Pass from #1 pick Miller = goal
Pass from lottery pick Kakko = goal
Pass from lottery pick Laf = goal
 
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Soedy said:
Yeah. That might mean 11m instead of 12m.
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Or 13 instead of 14. I wouldn’t be surprised if he became the highest paid player for a year until Matthews is up.
Three On Zero said:
It’s funny that people assume this Colorado team will have huge cap issues, didn’t MacKinnon already come out and say he would take another team friendly contract?
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He’s still going to get over 10 million and that’s one guy. What about the other 2/3rds of the team that needs to be re-upped this year most coming off career years?

You were making the same argument about Calgary too for some reason somehow their cap issues will be no problem but the sky is falling in Edmonton in your eyes. It’s ironic because Calgary is actually a bigger rival to Vancouver than Edmonton.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
Imagine making it to the WCF only to put on this embarrassing performance and about to get swept? I wouldn’t want any of those players on my team, even no show McDavid. Guy is a loser and will never win a Stanley cup.
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Mcdavid and matthews are the best players in the world. Maker is right there too. It's not mcdavids fault. He never stood a chance. I mean that lottery face. He was never going to pull a lindross. What screwed him was before he signed his extension it was customary to just sign the eight year extension. He should of been the one to just sign a max or close to it eating his rfa years.

The way Edmonton got the pick he does not owe them anything. It was luck. Getting him for his entry and five years should of been long enough to build a contender. Instead he 're upped for 8. That was a dumb move on his part. He needed to be out of there as soon as he could . Now he's going to be stuck asking for a trade or just dwindling away. He knows this is it. This is as far as he's going to go there. Should be interesting .

Two easy matchups and getting to the wcf is going to make holland think they're close and he's going to mortgage all of the future this summer and sign a really bad contract. It's obvious. I feel so bad for mcdavid.

This series has revealed two things. They beat barely play-off calibre teams and they are really really bad.
 
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WetcoastOrca said:
Watching this series it has to be discouraging for Edmonton to see how far they still have to go to beat a top contender. And they don’t really have the cap space or prospect pipeline to improve much this off season. It’s hard to see how they get the team to that level during McDavid and Draisaitl’s peak years. As hard as it is to believe, Draisaitl will already be turning 27 later this year.
As a fan of both players this is tough to watch.
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27? Already? Ouch.
 
MessierII said:
Or 13 instead of 14. I wouldn’t be surprised if he became the highest paid player for a year until Matthews is up.

He’s still going to get over 10 million and that’s one guy. What about the other 2/3rds of the team that needs to be re-upped this year most coming off career years?

You were making the same argument about Calgary too for some reason somehow their cap issues will be no problem but the sky is falling in Edmonton in your eyes. It’s ironic because Calgary is actually a bigger rival to Vancouver than Edmonton.
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Erik Johnson’s deal expires when MacKinnon needs a new contract, that’s 12.3M right there.
 
Three On Zero said:
That intimidating atmosphere sure was quiet enough to hear pins drop last night after the Kadri hit…
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You mean the hit on Kadri by Kane? If so then it's common courtesy and a sign of respect to be quiet if there is an injury. Not that we would expect it in Vancouver.

Fans in Edmonton did their part last night ...
 
Rangers just went on a heater. They barely beat the Pens, then vs Carolina they're up against a goalie who shat the bed, and now with Tampa the series isn't even over.
 
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VivaLasVegas said:
Nashville and the Oilers were not quality playoff wins. The Blues were certainly a quality playoff win (that was the real WCF), but the series really changed when Bennington went out.

By contrast, the Rangers have had tough battles the entire way in the Squidgame EC and would have been a difficult climb for the Avs even with a healthy Kuemper and Kadri.
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So you're equating series length w/ quality of opponent. That's obviously a flawed way of looking at things. A good team could sweep their way to the finals and lots of bad teams could go the distance. It wouldn't necessarily follow that the bad teams were better by virtue of harder series.

The Rangers may be better than the Avs, but it doesn't follow from your comment at all. I'm sure there's more nuance to it you just didn't type, which is fine. You also just don't mention that the Rangers were a Crosby injury away from losing (they were down 3-1) and it's more than fair to speculate they go down if Crosby is healthy. They also went the distance against a Carolina team without their starting (very quality) goaltender. Weird you don't point these out either. I'm not sure awarding them brownie points for their long matches is appropriate completely.

Avs have handled the postseason the way a good team should. If they had Kadri I'd be way more confident they'd beat either the Rangers or the Lightning. Without him though I'll totally get people thinking those teams should win. That's a big hit for this team and last year proved they fall off w/o him or that depth he provides.
 
Avs are doing as good as job containing McDavid as any team has this year. The forwards are pushing him to the outside in the neutral zone and don't get caught poking for pucks. The defenders that can somewhat keep up (Toews, Makar, Byram) are out there against him and also focus on keeping him on the outside as much as possible. When Avs get the puck it's quickly going the other way and Avs are doing a good job keeping the play down low in the Oilers zone, forcing him to play defense.
 
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MessierII said:
Or 13 instead of 14. I wouldn’t be surprised if he became the highest paid player for a year until Matthews is up.

He’s still going to get over 10 million and that’s one guy. What about the other 2/3rds of the team that needs to be re-upped this year most coming off career years?

You were making the same argument about Calgary too for some reason somehow their cap issues will be no problem but the sky is falling in Edmonton in your eyes. It’s ironic because Calgary is actually a bigger rival to Vancouver than Edmonton.
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He’s about 6 million underpaid now, I doubt he takes more than 10 if the team shows success.

Calgary has minor cap issues but nothing they can’t fix.

This is Edmonton’s win now window with the current core (including Kane). Holland has put them in cap hell… no #1 D, no #1 goalie, an atrocious bottom 6
 
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