Series Talk: WCF: Dallas Stars vs Edmonton Oilers (EDM Leads 3-2)

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

Who y'all got?!
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Dallas Stars (1C) vs. Edmonton Oilers (2P)​

Western Conference Final

Game 1: Oilers at Stars -- May 23, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 2: Oilers at Stars -- May 25, 8 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 3: Stars at Oilers -- May 27, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 4: Stars at Oilers -- May 29, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ Game 5: Oilers at Stars -- May 31, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 6: Stars at Oilers -- June 2, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 7: Oilers at Stars -- June 4, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
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[TheTotalPackage]

I thought the main camera man in Dallas was great. Made it easy to follow the puck. Wish he could do something about the standing crowd though lol

I love seeing the fans standing in Dallas for a good portion of the period. They are right into the game.

It is obstructive though. I wish they would pan up from a higher angle like they did back in the day at Joe Louis Arena when the Red Wings fans would stand up and get in the camera view.

 

[Satire]

Get that outta my face. Its a curse. They had Calgary as Cup favorites preseason a couple of years ago.

Agreed - I have no qualms with saying our team probably doesn't always get the credit it deserves, but I feel like the narrative on this team is bogus. It's either we're pretenders or we are some unstoppable juggernaut. In reality we're somewhere between those two. I think we can hang with the big boys, but I don't think we're the big dog here... Lots of hockey left to be played.

 

[nturn06]

I wonder if in game 2 the Stars are gonna keep trying to pick cherries....

 

[snag]

I wonder if in game 2 the Stars are gonna keep trying to pick cherries....

Maybe this?
That's for the younger ones who don't know better lol

 

[BIeucheeseWithWings]

 

[TheLegend27]

I thought this game was a positive for Dallas

They were able to keep it close without their 1C and this was basically a must win game for Edmontons and they got it done



You beat a team without their 1C in double overtime

Maybe wait a bit more before boasting about how amazing you are..

At the same time Dallas isn’t getting that kind of whistle again most likely. Not a single infraction in 80 minutes. They removed one of the oilers biggest strengths in 40% power play and still couldn’t get it done. If this is the start of Skinner’s hot form then Dallas has to worry.

 

[Coffey]

They removed one of the oilers biggest strengths in 40% power play and still couldn’t get it done.

By killing one power play?
Also our PP has been ass in the last 10 attempts. like 10% lol

 

[snag]

By killing one power play?
Also our PP has been ass in the last 10 attempts. like 10% lol

By only giving one.

 

[Coffey]

By only giving one.

Cleanest team in the league.

 

[Dust]

They may DESERVE this because Dallas has a D, which stands for DESERVE.
But Edmonton ALSO has a D. And it's for DEPTH. But also two N's, for NO NONE DEPTH.
Dallas also has 2 L's, right now they have one L, so maybe another is coming.

This goes deeper than I thought... Maybe even deeper than Dallas' depth.

We deserve it more, #We DIM

What a great hashtag.

 

[robertocarlos]

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Check out the size of that brain.

I personally do not care who wins of the 4 teams left but if EDM somehow gets there I think anyone wanting a good final might have issues as FLA matches up miserably vs EDM and EDM matches up miserably vs NYR. To get either of those series past 4-5 is maybe a big ask.

EDM vs. NY and the Cup is Canada's again.

 

[Coffey]

It sucks because I want to get excited... But I have seen Oilers play at 20% skill/effort in games after a win.
So game by game and temper expectations...

 

[WATTAGE4451]

the PP merchant oilers managed to win only scoring 5v5 goals (again).

dallas is no slouch and had some time off etc etc but the oilers arent the bums other fans are trying to make them out to be. although i will agree they rolled through 2 bum teams to get to the wcf

I dont understand how a bum team was a game away from being the top seed in the conference? Or how vegas qualifies as a tough team when they started hot then struggled badly dowm stretch and barely made playoffs.

 

[McFlyingV]

I remember the Sportsnet crew pointing this out, going through the slow-motion replay........and I was laughing because what difference does it make?

Are slashes on the shinpads allowed? Or is it a slash either way, which is what I thought going into the game?

I mean if that were the case then there would be about 100+ penalties called every game.

 

[D Wakaluk]

Oilers deserved the win. The reffing script was laughable.

Yes you can call those penalties on EDM, but Dallas sure as hell wasn't squeky clean for four full periods.

I hate how the NHL is with this shit. Takes so much away from the game.

 

[McFlyingV]

Oilers deserved the win. The reffing script was laughable.

Yes you can call those penalties on EDM, but Dallas sure as hell wasn't squeky clean for four full periods.

I hate how the NHL is with this shit. Takes so much away from the game.

Would just be nice to have consistency within the same game. I know you'll always have inconsistencies game to game because of the refs working the game, and into more important games in a series, but if something is going to be called within a game then call it all game once the standard is set. If something is let go then let it go all game. Players having to guess what the ref is going to call on any given night is just such a bizarre way of doing things.

 

[PuckG]

Oilers deserved the win. The reffing script was laughable.

Yes you can call those penalties on EDM, but Dallas sure as hell wasn't squeky clean for four full periods.

I hate how the NHL is with this shit. Takes so much away from the game.

You (and Stars fans in general) are a breath of fresh air, my friend. Especially compared to the whining we had to deal with last round.

Those calls are perfectly fine as long as the standard stays consistent throughout the series. It just feels borderline insane to call some of those after the physicality and calls that were let go in previous rounds.

 

[Elysian]

Stars fans are already showing to be cooler than the rest. Even if they are delusional about WDI.
I mean, everyone knows WE DESERVE IT MORE

Yes, embrace it

You (and Stars fans in general) are a breath of fresh air, my friend. Especially compared to the whining we had to deal with last round.

Those calls are perfectly fine as long as the standard stays consistent throughout the series. It just feels borderline insane to call some of those after the physicality and calls that were let go in previous rounds.

I asked for consistency last round and got laughed out of the thread

I still want consistency. It bears repeating, the officiating is the worst thing about the NHL.

 

[Three On Zero]

I remember the Sportsnet crew pointing this out, going through the slow-motion replay........and I was laughing because what difference does it make?

Are slashes on the shinpads allowed? Or is it a slash either way, which is what I thought going into the game?

Reffing in last nights game was actually refreshingly good, the obvious was called and it wasn’t a battle of ticky tack plays. Dallas was disciplined and failed to do anything with it

 

[Satan]

Reffing in last nights game was actually refreshingly good, the obvious was called and it wasn’t a battle of ticky tack plays. Dallas was disciplined and failed to do anything with it

I'm biased but that's how I saw last night too- everyone cries about "game management" and "make up calls"- yet when the calls tip to one team's favour then the refs are playing favorites....? Funny how it works.

Complaining about reffing in playoffs is some lowest common denominator type shit anyway- in a deep playoff run, you're gonna see it all. The best team plays through it.

 

[Three On Zero]

I'm biased but that's how I saw last night too- everyone cries about "game management" and "make up calls"- yet when the calls tip to one team's favour then the refs are playing favorites....? Funny how it works.

Complaining about reffing in playoffs is some lowest common denominator type shit anyway- in a deep playoff run, you're gonna see it all. The best team plays through it.

Game management and make up calls really only happen when you force the refs hand by playing on the edge.

Being down 1-0 I am sure Dallas is going to play a little riskier next game.

 

[Dust]

I'm biased but that's how I saw last night too- everyone cries about "game management" and "make up calls"- yet when the calls tip to one team's favour then the refs are playing favorites....? Funny how it works.

Complaining about reffing in playoffs is some lowest common denominator type shit anyway- in a deep playoff run, you're gonna see it all. The best team plays through it.

I didn't necessarily agree with all the calls made, however we do have to move past the pre-conceived notion that things should be even both ways all the time. If one team is more undisciplined than the other, than I hope the officials call it. Over the highs and lows of a 7 game series things will probably be pretty even by the end of it anyways.

It could always be worse, it could be NBA officiating.

 

[PaulD]

Using the 82 game sample shows these teams are close.

yup

 

[PaulD]

Skinner is the weak link. Nobody can deny that. Ha! even he knows it.

Put Shesterkin on the Oil and they are winning multiple cups.
Where Rangers won't win one with him.
Oilers are that good outside the crease.

 

[iCanada]

I'm biased but that's how I saw last night too- everyone cries about "game management" and "make up calls"- yet when the calls tip to one team's favour then the refs are playing favorites....? Funny how it works.

Complaining about reffing in playoffs is some lowest common denominator type shit anyway- in a deep playoff run, you're gonna see it all. The best team plays through it.

Eh, I don't think the refs had a huge impact on the game, but I thought the refs were fairly biased last night.

Idk, I don't mind the McDavid high stick in OT. Aside from that basically all of the penalties on the Oilers were ticky tacky bullshit. Kane got a roughing call for hitting a guy shoulder to shoulder. Bouchard got a slashing call for a love tap on the shin pad - if it's enough to be a slash to the leg it's a tripping penalty. The one that really drove me up the wall was Holloway getting a holding call while he was attacking the puck carrier, meanwhile Suter had been jet skiing on Holloway for a good 8 ft.


Like it said, it didn't really impact the game because the Oilers PK is elite, but like if you're making those three calls on Edmonton then the Oilers should have had atleast that many PPs too. If you're not making those calls when the stars do it, don't make those calls when the oil do it.