CantLoseWithMatthews
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lmfao. He placed it where he could play it, but he had to skate several feet to catch up to it. Seems accurate
Was Krejci's glove-down legal?
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Atoyot
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I can't imagine being so biased that I wouldn't be able to see that Kreijci caught and threw that puck to an area away from the defender. I'm a big fan of Kreijci, you guys got away with one and it's over, what's the point in being so adamant that there was no wrong doing?
Beezeral
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great. if everyone does it. please cite other examples of players throwing the puck ahead of them and needing to skate the distance of one blue line to the other to catch up to it. You don't even need a video. just give me a time stamp in any game this year and I will look it up on game center.
Beezeral
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because admitting his favorite team got away with one will cause the NHL to retroactively take away the goal and force a replay of the game from that point or even worse, people think that a player on their favorite team intentionally did something that is against NHL rules.
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Exactly.
You always know their hot when a thread about Jack Edwards pops up. Should be any day now
Can you explain what rule he broke and how? Lol
I don’t get how he broke any rule? Should he have handed it to the defender? Is is allowed to bat the puck past a defender who is in his zone
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Beezeral
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he didn't bat it. He closed his hand on the puck and threw it forward. They are two different things. batting the puck with an open hand is allowed. closing your hand on the puck and throwing it is not.
When you close your hand on the puck you must immediately drop it to the ice. It doesn't matter if there is a defenseman waiting there. That is the rule.
tarheelhockey
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1) You are thinking of is the hand pass rule. In that case, both the passer AND the recipient must be in the defensive zone for it to be legal. You cannot throw the puck from the defensive zone to a teammate in the neutral zone.
2) He was not in his own zone when he threw the puck:
3) Rules 67.1 and 79.1 (which are basically the same rule) were specifically updated this year to prevent this exact type of play from occurring, because players are allowed to drop the puck in stride but not to push it into a place where they gain an advantage on an opponent -- such as tossing it past a defender and then skating around him to retrieve it. This applies to all three zones.
Maybe you could read the thread where the rules he broke have been posted literally dozens of times?
Is this a war of attrition? Do Bruins fans think by coming in waves and obstinately saying "Show me what rule he broke" while breezing past common sense is a winning strategy? Because it is crazy annoying.
BruinsFanSince94
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Missed call. Krejci threw the puck out in front of him. NHL is incompetent but we know this already. Move along haha
You can’t close your hand on it and carry it like a running back. You can catch it and throw it down
I did read the posted rules none of them were broken. And again I don’t like the bruins but I guess my post were understood like the rules around here
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so by your understanding of the rules, a player in the defensive zone can grab a puck out of mid-air and throw it all the way down the ice? He's throwing it down just as you say...
tarheelhockey
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It's extremely obvious that 67.1/79.1 was broken here.
Arguably, it should have been a penalty for closing the hand. But at an absolute minimum this is without question a violation of the rule(s) cited above.
| Hand Pass - A player shall be permitted to stop or "bat" a puck in the air with his open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be stopped unless, in the opinion of the Referee, he has directed the puck to a teammate. | |
| A player shall be permitted to catch the puck out of the air but must immediately place it or knock it down to the ice. If he catches it and skates with it, either to avoid a check or to gain a territorial advantage over his opponent, a minor penalty shall be assessed for "closing his hand on the puck" under Rule 67 - Handling Puck |
He immediately knocked it down the ice. He did not carry it around anyone.
Just the facts, just the facts
Bergyesque
Been there, done that.
Adding a post just so this thread about a trivial play makes it to 20 pages.
Let's go boys, we can do it!
Let's go boys, we can do it!
tarheelhockey
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You're quoting an old copy of the rulebook.
2018 rules: http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2017-2018-NHL-rulebook.pdf
67.1 Handling Puck - A player shall be permitted to stop or “bat” a puck in the air with his open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be stopped unless, in the opinion of the on-ice officials, he has deliberately directed the puck to a teammate, or has allowed his team to gain an advantage, in any zone other than the defending zone, in which case the play shall be stopped and a faceoff conducted (see Rule 79 – Hand Pass). Play will not be stopped for any hand pass by players in their own defending zone.
79.1 A player shall be permitted to stop or “bat” a puck in the air with his open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be stopped unless, in the opinion of the on-ice officials, he has directed the puck to a teammate, or has allowed his team to gain an advantage, and subsequently possession and control of the puck is obtained by a player of the offending team, either directly or deflected off any player or official.
Those bolded lines were inserted specifically to prevent players "dropping" the puck in a way that gives them an advantage over a defender.
Interestingly, 67.1 mentions the defending zone and 79.1 does not. Doesn't really matter in this case as the puck was thrown in the neutral zone, but it's an interesting discrepancy.
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The rule is pretty clearly written so that a player must drop it immediately to the ice, and not in a way that gains an advantage. Dropping it at your feet isn’t an advantage. Tossing it ten feet away where you will be is.
He broke a rule. The refs missed it. Under normal circumstances, I think it’s not an issue because no goal is scored. In this case, it was, and it directly resulted from this play. He actually tossed it past the defender, and then skated into it. Clear penalty. Stupid officials.
He broke a rule. The refs missed it. Under normal circumstances, I think it’s not an issue because no goal is scored. In this case, it was, and it directly resulted from this play. He actually tossed it past the defender, and then skated into it. Clear penalty. Stupid officials.
It’s not a decrepency, if a guy is in his zone it’s all good. If he isn’t in his own zone then 79.1 is used.
He was in his own zone. That is why the play was let go.
Rule 79 does not apply in this case only 67
And that rule clearly states unless he was in his own zone. Everyone treats the coma like a period, reading half the rule
tarheelhockey
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It absolutely is a discrepancy, one rule shows an exception for the defensive zone and the other doesn't. That's the definition of a discrepancy.
Also, this:
Is not a pass being made in the defensive zone and I seriously doubt that was the rationale for letting it go considering a hand pass INTO THE NEUTRAL ZONE is always illegal.
The frustrating thing here is I've already shown you that picture and already quoted each of these rules to you (individually) at least twice.
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You’re just grasping at straws now, aren’t you?
You can’t pass the puck from your defensive zone to a player not in the defensive zone. If that’s the rule you’re trying to lean on to say it was okay, at the very least it should have been blown dead.
But really, this was a penalty because he didn’t immediately drop the puck to the ice. He tossed it.
It absolutely is a discrepancy, one rule shows an exception for the defensive zone and the other doesn't. That's the definition of a discrepancy.
Also, this:
Is not a pass being made in the defensive zone and I seriously doubt that was the rationale for letting it go considering a hand pass INTO THE NEUTRAL ZONE is always illegal.
The frustrating thing here is I've already shown you that picture and already quoted each of these rules to you (individually) at least twice.
Is his foot not across the line in the defensive zone?
The frustrating part is you can gain an advantage if in the d zone it clearly states you can
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