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Was Canada's first goal against Finland good or not?

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Was Canada's first goal against Finland good or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 10.5%

  • No

    Votes: 367 89.5%
  • Total voters
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As far as I remember (the last 15 years), bad calls always happen during this tourney. Lets move on and hope that we won't see any during the elimination games.
 
I love how all these people are complaining about this goal lmao. Finland is lucky that such a rule is even in place that discredits goals that would have gone in regardless and where the net coming off has zero effect on the play. Canada is lucky that the rule wasnt enforced. The NHL got it right when they altered the rule a few years ago. Canada was fully deserving of the goal Finland is just mad that a a clearly outdated and wrongly written rule wasn't enforced to the book
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Deserved or not, that goal should not have been allowed. I can't even imagine how salty you'd be had that goal been against Canada. You can also talk all you want about NHL's entertainment focused rules but the IIHF uses its own rules and this goal was against them.
 
jbobell98 said:
I love how all these people are complaining about this goal lmao. Finland is lucky that such a rule is even in place that discredits goals that would have gone in regardless and where the net coming off has zero effect on the play. Canada is lucky that the rule wasnt enforced. The NHL got it right when they altered the rule a few years ago. Canada was fully deserving of the goal Finland is just mad that a a clearly outdated and wrongly written rule wasn't enforced to the book.
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Whether or not the rule should be different doesn't take away from the fact that it is different. This is probably why the wrong call was made as a different interpretation was followed instead of the correct one.
 
The IIHF wants to make money. It chooses sites where they think they will make the most. Countries bid on the tournament. Canada gets one vote same as everyone else. As to the first Canadian goal--I am Canadian and cheer for Canada but that was not a goal. The obvious let down led to a stupid penalty and a second Canadian goal. I believe that changed the complexion of the game but obviously no one can say the outcome would have changed or not.
 
I think the better team won.

That said, the first goal wasn't a goal and Finland got stripped a goal at the end by glowing the puck off the net. I have no frigging idea what these refs were doing.
Still in a retrospect when you think of the Sweden vs Finland gold medal game at 2014 ,where even the slightest "bad" play by the Finns was penalized and Swedes could do whatever they wanted, yesterday's happenings where nothing. I remember people getting so sick of it they quit watching while it was still anyone's game.
 
Two different reasons it shouldn't have counted, was flabbergasted when the refs signalled a good goal after review.
 
People absolutely should complain about that goal, not because it will change anything about that game, but because goals like that when there's supposed to be video reviewing simply shouldn't happen, especially on an international tournament. Even Canadians should be complaining, even though they were the lucky ones this time around, but I don't think anyone wants something like this to be the deciding goal on a gold medal game or something.

Obviously bad calls affect every game, a penalty which shouldn't have been one, or one that was left uncalled, and it's part of the game, but when there is a video referee available, goals at least should be called correctly. At least it seems IIHF have admitted the error, and that the call was solely on officials on ice and the video ref had no say in it at all, which is good but also rises the question should the video ref be allowed to insist a goal for review if he immediately thinks the call on ice was wrong. I'm not saying yes or no, just wondering.

At least to me, it's not about that particular game, but the bigger picture. Simply that if there is the whole option of video review, these goals just shouldn't happen. It's an OK call to make on the ice in real time, but the call that was not OK was not putting it up for review. It's baffling the ref was so sure it was a good goal he didn't even bother. To me it was a goal that screamed "review me!"
 
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Congrats Canada! With 9 Man on ice vs Finland they take a win. Every time the same scenery at international torunaments in NA. Very qestionable refs.
 
Stop the whining, please. The refs also called at least three very weak penalties against Canada. Yes, it was a bad call, but the Finns weren't a better team this time.
 
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It should not have counted. Goal off moorings or not, it was not a good goal. I don't care too much though. Bad calls happen.
 
This isn't even a question ofcourse it isn't a good goal.

A good portion of the posters miss the point aswell IMO. Yeah sure bad calls happen, but refs VERY rarely make mistakes this blatant when the situation is reviewed.
 
I feel like there is a good chance the the IIHF changed the rule following what happened at Sochi between USA and Russia but hasn't bothered to change the rule book on the website.
 
I didn't think there was any goaltender interference, but yeah, the net was off, so no goal, I think. Still a great play. The net really only came off because he tried (and succeeded) to avoid the goalie.
 
jbobell98 said:
I feel like there is a good chance the the IIHF changed the rule following what happened at Sochi between USA and Russia but hasn't bothered to change the rule book on the website.
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Well......that would explain a lot.
 
jbobell98 said:
I feel like there is a good chance the the IIHF changed the rule following what happened at Sochi between USA and Russia but hasn't bothered to change the rule book on the website.
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That's just silly to assume something like that.
 
Vlad The Impaler said:
Did you read my post? I just explained why.

This tournament attracts a level of interest in Canada that simply dwarfs every other country in the world. Do you understand the financial implications of that? The money from crowds and networks is in Canada to such a disproportionate level compared to elsewhere that they are now holding the tournament every other year in this country. Here's where it's taking place lately.

2009 Canada
2010 Canada
2011 USA
2012 Canada
2013 Russia
2014 Sweden
2015 Canada
2016 Finland
2017 Canada
2018 USA
2019 Canada
2020 Czech Republic
2021 Canada

Does that look like an international tournament? Of course,not. It's a Canadian tournament. The money is here.

People tend to underestimate the financial implications of amateur sports, as if there wasn't money involved because the players don't earn huge salaries but the fact is there is often a greater level of corruption, all the way to the Olympics. The IIHF is a big business. Its biggest customers are Hockey Canada, the Canadian networks and the Canadian crowds. If the level of interest dropped here, this tournament wouldn't make any money. That's how bad it is elsewhere. It's on everyone's minds at the IIHF.
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Vlad one of the reasons it is held in Canada is because this is where the most interest in generated. Hockey is our game first before any other sport. You do make some interesting points.
When you look at the size of the crowds when Canada is not playing you are correct in saying they wouldn't make any money on this tourney. I highly doubt that there is favouritism though because if there was where are our results? I think if any other squad or country accuses Canada of rigging the tourney they better be able to prove those accusations or stay the hell out. Canada wins a decision on a call and the whole tournament is fixed. That is a load of BS. For those that think that way also turn off your TV and save yourself some stress.
 
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Toro2017 said:
Well that was a mistake on referee side, no matter what. If the puck did cross the line, then goal for Finland. If not, then penalty for the canadian player who plays the puck with his hand. Second major mistake for referee in one game. Luckily it was the first game, not a playoff game. Canada were better overall, but if referees had done their job right, Finland could have won this one.
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You can play the puck in the crease with your hand, like Foote did, you just can't close your hand on it. If you do, it's a penalty shot. So there is no penalty, and it was impossible to tell if the puck cross the line or not.
 
Wilfrd said:
Deserved or not, that goal should not have been allowed. I can't even imagine how salty you'd be had that goal been against Canada. You can also talk all you want about NHL's entertainment focused rules but the IIHF uses its own rules and this goal was against them.
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lol what entertainment focussed rules? You mean rules designed to allow goals that should count in the first place? I would definitely be upset but even close to the level of the Fins on these boards. Because I know that its a stupid rule and that the net being dislodge had no effect on the play and that the puck was going in regardless.
 
Canada still wins the game with or without the goal.

Superior hockey nation.
 
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