We're going to have to spend $20M+ just to reach the cap floor next year. Not worried about next year because there are so many things that have to get settled and we have so much money we can/need to spend. Impossible to project right now, but pretty confident we will look a lot different.
How is what it took to get him irrelevant to his current value? The trade happened 60 games ago. It's amazing that we found a sucker team that thinks a 20 game hot streak to start the season vaulted Walman into a completely different stratosphere of value than he had around the league last summer.
I don't think so. A 2026 Edmonton first is not that great an asset. teams value today's picks over next years picks signficantly, so that pick wont have that much value this summer to acquire a better/younger D.. Furthermore, that pick is very likely to be in the mid to late 20s, which really isn't worth a ton.
At the moment, the Sharks have to spend $20M to reach the cap floor.
Or maybe you're just wrong...
I'm wrong that Jake Walman was traded with a 2nd round pick for future considerations on June 25th, 2024?
Walman ideally should be a 2nd pair guy. He's playing 1D for us because we need warm bodies. He's a great top 4 guy but definitely not a 1-2D. Getting a 1st for that is damn good. Sounds like the Oilers paid extra too. We won't know for sure until tomorrow.
Of course acquisition costs are irrelevant. Gourde was originally an AHL signingfor TBL, does that make him worthless.
They don't this year
I think that's a problem they will be able to handle. If we have another young defenseman jump in next year, they will have Liljegren and Desharnais to start and probably looking to get another one at a minimum. And if they need to overpay, we should be fine with one when the cap is going up by a lot the next three years.
Yeah, the trade that Detroit made was fair value... But the trade being made now is someone being 'suckered into thinking he is good'.
Lol Gourde was signed literally over a decade ago. How can you compare that to a trade that happened late last June?
let's assume you are right, and he is a second pairing D. (clear top 4 though). Thats worth a 1st at the deadline for pretty much any team. Look at the market. Brian dumoulin (a bottom 4 guy average) got a 2nd+ as a pending UFA. Walman>Dumoulin so a 1st would make sense if he wa a pending UFA. But next year's 3.4M salary is well under market, so his value has to be even more.
nah that oilers 1st is ammo in the summer for who GMMG wants. theres about a 10% chance we use it
I only used Gourde as an example because acquisition costs are not relevant. It's all about what you currently bring to the table.
No, what you're arguing is that the entire league mis-valued Walman in the offseason but the genius Oilers management team who fumbled Broberg and Holloway because they spent all their money on washed up garbage like Jeff Skinner, Arvidsson and Henrique is accurately valuing him right now.
Cant get a whole lot during summer '25 for a '26 late 1st. I understand that accumulating assets always helps, and I hope you are right that this pick is used to get a more 23-25 year old top 4 replacement.
Yeah, that's why I'm okay with the trade. He legitimately played like a #1D for the first 20 games, but what he is is a solid #4, and his second half as showed that.
Nice strawman, I’ve never said Walman is worth a first. In fact, go look through threads - I’ve said his value won’t be higher and so it’s a great move.
