Jargon
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This is a far more reasonable take than “he plays video games”
Confirmed with Link: Jake Walman to Edmonton for F Carl Berglund and Conditional 1st
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This is a far more reasonable take than “he plays video games”
Jargon
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2nd that becomes a 1st if they make the finals + Sam O’Reilly? Or something?
A prospect and a 1st seems absolutely insane for Walman, no?
Sendhelplease
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I am expecting it to be a prospect no one but Oilers fans have heard of who is a 23 year old 6-4 defensive defenseman who is about to graduate from BC and who tops out as an AHLer
JoeThorntonsRooster
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Based on the way that people are talking the 1st I think the "condition" will be something more like top-10 protection in 2026.
And based on the way people are talking about the prospect I suspect it will be a nobody. But who knows.
Hodge
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I mean it's specifically that he plays Fortnite, a game for children. I wouldn't care if he was logging hours on Civ VI.
Sendhelplease
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If he was logging hours on civ vi he’d be worth 2 firsts
Jargon
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I think that’s just so strange and ridiculous. These guys spend their lives training, let them play whatever video games they want. Who cares?
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rekrul
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A Oiler 2026 first round pick won't play for the sharks until 2028, meanwhile they lose a capable Dman, Does anyone think GMMG can find a Jake Walman replacement in the UFA market when 31 other teams have extra cap space? this looks foolish.
And yes, getting a 1st for a cap dump on paper looks quite smart, For other teams that have depth, or should the sharks just tell everyone, fans, media, team- its another season of suffering but its going to be wizbang awesome in 2030
And yes, getting a 1st for a cap dump on paper looks quite smart, For other teams that have depth, or should the sharks just tell everyone, fans, media, team- its another season of suffering but its going to be wizbang awesome in 2030
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No idea yet but I'm hoping for a 2026 1st that moves to 2027 if the Oilers miss the playoffs or something and then some throwaway prospect like Philip Kemp.
I mean at least he was smart enough in that example to not get suckered into preordering Civ VII though right?
BaileyMacTavish
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It better be the equivalent of two 1sts (a first and a top prospect or better). Walman, as a rental would be a first minimum. 23 mins/gm, -1 on a terrible team eating big minutes. 42 pt pace? These are top pairing D type numbers at a bottom pairing cap hit. Thats gotta be two firsts equivalent.
However, Edmonton lacks a 1st this year and a 2026 late 1st is not worth much given the stage of rebuild. This summer's picks are really the last ones likely to be main parts of the next sharks generation. A 2026 late first likely doesn't hit the NHL until 2030 (age 22), and a late 1st has a less than 50/50 chance of hitting anyways.
I don't see how Edmonton can make an offer worth taking? Even a 2026 1st and Orielly aint such a great deal.
Also, without walman and ferraro, who is gunna play D? Mukh, Thrun, Thompson, Vlasic, Liljgren, Desharnais??? HAHAHAHAHA!!! that could be the worst defense ever assembled in NHL history.
i think what it took to get him is irrelevant to his current value. The guy is a top pairing D singed for another year at bottom pairing price. No way he should go for just a first. That would be an amazing steal for the other team.
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Draft picks are assets and assets can get you d-men better than Walman (2025 edition) in trades.
knu
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You know If I had known we weren't going to keep him I would have just kept Future Considerations. At least FC had upside of being a top pairing D.
Tw1ster
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I think you’re vastly overrating Walman based on points alone. He’s been brutal for the last 20 games. Considering we got paid to take him, we were pretty much given a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder for free. Pretty good GMing
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Anomie2029
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Yeah, because the thing about that 1st round is once you acquire it, you HAVE to keep it.
This is the situation - Walman probably wasn't going to be in the club when they're ready to compete, so they've got inflated value for him. That pick can be used in other deals - whether to move up higher in the draft or to acquire players from other clubs. You know, kind of like how they gave a 1st to acquire Askarov...
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One problem we're going to have shipping out our only competent warm bodies on D is not simply that we're going to be even more awful (which we are), but that next year and the year after when we have guys like Dickinson and hopefully Schaefer is that they're not gonna have competent veteran D partners available to mentor them. I'm nervous about our ability to get decent veteran dmen on the UFA market without horrific overpayments, which might not be the best thing for the development of our talent in the pipeline.
