The only thing that could rationalize this kind of value for me is if we waive someone else we don’t want and SJS claim them as a “favour”
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I think that's an okay term to have as "future considerations." If that's the case, I'm not sure why we wouldn't just include the cap dump in the trade directly though.
Truthfully, I don’t know, but As long as the player we waived doesn’t have a No Movement Clause, I don’t see why not.
Could be someone with an NTC but not a NMC (Holl)
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I just find it odd that we didn't even try waiving him first if it was just about dumping Walman. Giving up a 2nd without even attempting to when even Vrana got waived and only cost a 7th to dump is surprising.
Walman wasn't great last year but it was also a huge mismatch to have him getting the level of assignments he and Seider were getting.
Hope Yzerman has more coming. If not I'm a bit baffled by this one.
Walman wasn't great last year but it was also a huge mismatch to have him getting the level of assignments he and Seider were getting.
Hope Yzerman has more coming. If not I'm a bit baffled by this one.
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Is Walman that guy though? One could also argue that the more the Wings can play with the puck and create offense, the less they need to defend. Ghost helps with puck movement.
Maybe this is set up for Holl to be picked up on waivers by San Jose….He has a no trade clause but could be moved through waivers….Have to wait and see.
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Holl getting any sort of trade protection should've been grounds for immediate termination of Yzerman's job as GM.
Would make a lot more sense in hindsight.
I thought we would trade a few D this offseason, the only two I thought would be of negative value were Petry (if he somehow got moved) and Holl.
Did not expect in 1M years that Walman held negative value. Unless it’s a gentleman agreement for them to pick up Holl as well, there must be some unknown off ice issues to Walman’s life that the media hasn’t quite picked up on yet.
Still will miss him doing the Griddy in OT against MTL next season…..
A few months back - just after the reg season - I read a post on Reddit...A poster there apparently knows a current Red Wing and during Larkin's injury late in the season the locker room was uneasy and apparently Walman was part of the problem which is likely why he saw little playing time those last few weeks.
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Reddit so the classic “trust me bro” source.
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I don’t believe anyone who knows a guy who knows a guy, unless it involves a fish.Take with a grain of salt...Are they any more unreliable than HF Boards?
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Is there no Detroit media coverage anymore? I expected Bultman et al to be all over this.
I have a source close to the situation...Yzerman is gonna trade our 15th overall to Calgary for Mangiapane.
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I think the whole Yzerman paying Grier to take on Holl is intriguing...
But wouldn't it make more sense to make the trade after they claim Holl?
What if Grier just changes his mind and calls Yzerman and goes "SIKEEE". Though I supposed it could've gone the other way too....
But wouldn't it make more sense to make the trade after they claim Holl?
What if Grier just changes his mind and calls Yzerman and goes "SIKEEE". Though I supposed it could've gone the other way too....
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That still would be Yzermans second worst trade this off season unless something changes.I have a source close to the situation...Yzerman is gonna trade our 15th overall to Calgary for Mangiapane.
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That’s why I don’t buy this as a move to facilitate a future move. Like if a good player falls to San Jose why would they skip drafting that player? They didn’t trade for the 14th pick. Same thing with claiming a player in some unseen future. If they were going to do it they would have done it at the same time they made the trade.
Well I guess short term, the wing's want a Edvinsson/Seider top pairing.
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Anyone hoping for the playoffs next season shouldn’t be rooting for their pairing.
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I wasn't implying that Walman was great defensively. Just that Ghost is a sieve, and even if he scores 30 goals I don't want him on the team (at least as a defenseman).
