I know folks love "bias" as an indemnifying term to cover their own ass haha but it wasn't a "country bias". I was with a large faction of scouts that wanted to see more of him early in his North American days. He simply didn't play. And when he did, he was last guy on and first guy off. It was a running joke for a bit about his ice time and shift length. But he was on watchlists for sure and we couldn't get enough...naturally, he earned more and more opportunity as his DY went on.
If a teenager plays in the AHL and plays 9 or fewer NHL games, his ELC will still slide same as if he went back to junior.
Thank you for pointing this out. You must be the first person in the history of the world to realize that pro hockey, especially the NHL, is in fact a different level of hockey than junior hockey. Bravo.
The Sharks did this with Kasper Halttunen this year. He got a six-game evaluation with the Barracuda, got hurt, and then the Sharks sent him back to London after he got healthy. But more than nine games probably triggers his ELC to start.
Wow !! Why don't you just admit that you were wrong on your talent analysis of Ilya Protas ?! Why is it so hard geezz... Even scouts are wrong all the time, it's fine, just let it go... Your life partner or friends must have a hard time dealing with if you can never admit your mistakes... it shows maturity and a big step in the good direction to build long term relationships...
I haven't seen a single poster saying that Ilya Protas is on track to become a superstar like Gretzky, Lindros, Gilmour, Tavares, or overanalyzing the junior scoring stats.
Take your life advice for yourself. I don’t need someonwho has never seen a hockey player play before telling me I’m wrong and offering up life advice because they looked at the player’s EP page.
I know people on this website seem to be obsessed with junior scoring and box scores because it’s easier for them to contextualize, but ultimately what matters is how you do in the NHL and pro hockey and not Junior.
Or there's a happy medium.
Junior scoring, especially OHL, to me is starting to matter less and less. Guys are breaking records every year. The OHL has some of the most ridiculous scoring seasons this season. Are they all gonna fall into the “well, make a list of those that hit this level of scoring and almost no one failed”?
That’s always going to be how Pavel argues. Guys in CHL don’t score well? They’re just future drive through workers of course and that’s all the CHL has. Score too much? Then the scoring doesn’t matter and we have no way of knowing if a prospect will actually pan out. Damned if they do or don’t.
You’ve called players cooks and cleaners. And have also said we can’t take stats too seriously because players are doing too well. I’m not strawmanning you.
I agree that the league may be getting watered down and the scoring is pretty ridiculous. But even if you want to account for that and use some weighted scoring system, or a more simple method like comparing other D+1 prospects were top 5 scoring in the OHL, he'd be in decent company.
