W/C Zachary Benson - (2023, 13th, BUF)

[57special]

Does anyone else see that production doesn't always translate to the NHL level?

Well, Glass had huge injury problems. Yamamoto hasn’t been awesome, but is a NHL’er. Petan is the only glaring fail. Terrific AHL player, but disappears when he plays in the NHL. Otherwise, from looking at that list, I’d say that draft year production looks to be a pretty good predictor of NHL production, unless you have unrealistic expectations.

I would say to beware of a high production CHL player that lacks size, strength, and speed(like Petan). It’s still early, but Rossi is another player who fits into that category, and who is struggling to make a dent in the NHL.

You could argue that Benson and Cristall have a lot of similarities to Rossi.

 

[Goldenhands]

The size and skating mechanics are pretty similar to a guy like Mikhail Granlund as far as Im concerned. Granlund was also killing it in his draft year.

 

[FriarChill]

Any injury update available? Thx

 

[jetsmooseice]

Any injury update available? Thx

Nothing that I've heard. The team doesn't disclose and there is virtually no media coverage of the team in Winnipeg. So all we can do is guess and speculate.

 

[danyhabsfan]

Does anyone else see that production doesn't always translate to the NHL level?

You don't have to look at production alone. You have to look at some factor. (age, production compared to his teammates, size, injuries)

Yamamoto (smurf) was one of the oldest player in the draft (Sept 29th)
Petan (smurf) had 120 pts but his team was loaded. (Leipsic 120 pts in less games and Rattie 110 pts (better PPG)
Glass was injured a lot from 2018 to 2021

So production is a pretty good indicator to success in the NHL if you consider some factor.

 

[ffsffs1]

Does anyone else see that production doesn't always translate to the NHL level?

Prospects with good production have historically outperformed their draft position.



While production isn't very reliable at predicting how a prospect will fare in the NHL, traditional scouting hasn't been much better.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Prospects with good production have historically outperformed their draft position.



While production isn't very reliable at predicting how a prospect will fare in the NHL, traditional scouting hasn't been much better.

who would be the top 10 prospects for NHLe this year?

 

[Colezuki]

Prospects with good production have historically outperformed their draft position.



While production isn't very reliable at predicting how a prospect will fare in the NHL, traditional scouting hasn't been much better.

Someone once said in there D-1 they see only the good, in there D they see only the bad. wonder if it's a situation that scoring forwards usually pop earlier so they get spotted sooner

 

[ffsffs1]

who would be the top 10 prospects for NHLe this year?

Not entirely sure (I don't have the data). However, the top three would definitely be Bedard, Michkov, and Fantilli. I would guess Carlsson would slot in at 4, followed by Benson, Cristall, Smith, and Perreault in the 5-8 slots.

 

[Matsun]

who would be the top 10 prospects for NHLe this year?

This is a few weeks old but what ever.

 

[superdeluxe]

Any injury update available? Thx

WHL report shows 'Day to day'

 

[ijif]

This is a few weeks old but what ever.

PNHLe is not NHLe. PNHLe adjusts for age and position. NHLe does not.

 

[Matsun]

PNHLe is not NHLe. PNHLe adjusts for age and position. NHLe does not.

Oops.

 

[wetcoast]

Prospects with good production have historically outperformed their draft position.



While production isn't very reliable at predicting how a prospect will fare in the NHL, traditional scouting hasn't been much better.

That's assuming that points are everything and they aren't.

As to the graph sure in general but the players listed weren't locks for the HHOF or anything either.

 

[Juxtaposer]

That's assuming that points are everything and they aren't.

As to the graph sure in general but the players listed weren't locks for the HHOF or anything either.

I truly don’t understand why you’re obsessed with Benson’s points, when his points are like the third most impressive thing about his game.

 

[Colezuki]

I truly don’t understand why you’re obsessed with Benson’s points, when his points are like the third most impressive thing about his game.

first time here?

 

[wetcoast]

I truly don’t understand why you’re obsessed with Benson’s points, when his points are like the third most impressive thing about his game.

I'm actually not obsessed with Benson's production my interest was in response to other players production and for the record I think Benson will probably eclipse at least half of the guys listed in the original quote I was responding to.

Scouting IMO is a better metric than some chart showing PPG production of various junior players across time.

 

[lanky]

This appears to be a newer YouTube channel. It's definitely deserving of more subscriptions.
Quality analysis of Benson's game here.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Savoie posted 1.38 ppg in his draft year and Benson is up to 1.7

Benson has already scored 3 more points in 10 less games than Savoie did.
So at this rate it would be around 20 points difference

To be fair Benson is doing a lot of his scoring with Savoie this year. Together they’re both in the top 5 league scoring this year, even though it’s Savoie’s D+1.

 

[BB88]

To be fair Benson is doing a lot of his scoring with Savoie this year. Together they’re both in the top 5 league scoring this year, even though it’s Savoie’s D+1.

He was outscoring Savoie while being a draft behind

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

He was outscoring Savoie while being a draft behind

No kidding. My point is they’ve been linemates this year and their success is intertwined.

 

[majormajor]

No kidding. My point is they’ve been linemates this year and their success is intertwined.

I remember the last time I heard Benson moved to Geekie's line. He had 6 points that game.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

I remember the last time I heard Benson moved to Geekie's line. He had 6 points that game.

He’s a bad man, kid.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Not in the lineup tonight as Winnipeg begins the playoffs.

So the injury is pretty serious.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Not in the lineup tonight as Winnipeg begins the playoffs.

So the injury is pretty serious.

I thought he played.

I could have swore the injury was bad. I remember seeing it was a separated shoulder