Rumor: Vladimir Tarasenko requests a trade

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah no thanks Harris is a small defender blues want to get bigger on the lhd.

Maybee brook 2021 1st no retention for tank.

We might consider Brook and a 1st but we have to send salary back. We have no choice or we are out. Logical guy is Drouin. If that is a non starter, Habs can see if we can add a pick for Seattle to take him. Then we re evaluate what we also have to pay Danault, KK, Lehkonen, and Armia. I believe Tatar is let go.

We have cap space to tinker with but have to be careful with it.

Hate to make this about Drouin but I believe the Blues are a good spot for him. I think he looks much better on a team with physical group of forwards and the Blues have it to some degree. He's a good piece for the PP but soft style on wing requires him to play within a physical group of forwards with not many soft types. Problem is the Habs have too many and we have to work our way out of that.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I don't believe we are trading Guhle until we know how good he is. I'd offer 1st, Harris, and Drouin (cap reasons). If they laugh at it, so be it.

I'm interested in Tarasenko but not desperate. He is not tracking well recently with his injuries and he is 29/30 next year.

I think Bergevin has to make a big splash this summer if he wants to make a serious run next year because Price and Weber don't have many years left in them. Tarasenko would instantly make their team that much better. I would rather them trade for Kuznetsov who is a bit healthier and allow them to get stronger down the middle.

Kuznetsov>Tarasenko

 

[WeWentBlues]

Would Blues fans be willing to take Eberle back in a trade with the Isles? Gotta make the money work somehow

No blues won't take Eberle. I'm sure they could retain.

Tarasenko 2.5 mil retained
For
Bode Wilde
Samuel bolduc

I think it's more likely that the Blues would be interested in taking a player back like Eberle than an entirely futures based deal.

Blues ownership and GM both are on the record that they believe the team is still in a championship window. While fans and others may disagree, I'd expect the team's actions to be more reflective of the beliefs held by the decision makers for the organization.

 

[Colt55]

We might consider Brook and a 1st but we have to send salary back. We have no choice or we are out. Logical guy is Drouin. If that is a non starter, Habs can see if we can add a pick for Seattle to take him. Then we re evaluate what we also have to pay Danault, KK, Lehkonen, and Armia. I believe Tatar is let go.

We have cap space to tinker with but have to be careful with it.

Hate to make this about Drouin but I believe the Blues are a good spot for him. I think he looks much better on a team with physical group of forwards and the Blues have it to some degree. He's a good piece for the PP but soft style on wing requires him to play within a physical group of forwards with not many soft types. Problem is the Habs have too many and we have to work our way out of that.

I dont think drouin would be able to play berubes style. I am afraid he would get here and then not play.

Blueston what about

Drouin josh brook 2021 1st

For tarasenko

That's a 6'2" rhd nhl ready to take boots spot
2021 1st 30ova to get a second prospect probably long term
And drouin a reclamation project.

I am on the fence with that but the value is there.

 

[Colt55]

I think it's more likely that the Blues would be interested in taking a player back like Eberle than an entirely futures based deal.

Blues ownership and GM both are on the record that they believe the team is still in a championship window. While fans and others may disagree, I'd expect the team's actions to be more reflective of the beliefs held by the decision makers for the organization.

Yeah I disagree. I think we get futures and resign Schwartz and hoffman. I just don't see blues getting a player top six worthy for tarasenko. He have middle and bottom six players in spades we need skill and we would have to draft that. Just my take

 

[Got One Cup]

We’re screwed. Wherever he goes he will be determined to prove hes still it it now that he’s finally healthy. I doubt we get much in return.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think Bergevin has to make a big splash this summer if he wants to make a serious run next year because Price and Weber don't have many years left in them. Tarasenko would instantly make their team that much better. I would rather them trade for Kuznetsov who is a bit healthier and allow them to get stronger down the middle.

Kuznetsov>Tarasenko

Fair. I'm more worried about Weber than Price though. Price is still a star in net and elite level goalies have proven to hold value for longer. I think we got 3 or 4 more good years left but the Habs need to continue to ensure the team D is solid. I'm a firm believer of great goalies need good D and vice versa. They go hand and hand.

Habs need a bit more physical forwards or players strong on the puck who can shoot. Tarasenko fits

 

[Colt55]

I think Bergevin has to make a big splash this summer if he wants to make a serious run next year because Price and Weber don't have many years left in them. Tarasenko would instantly make their team that much better. I would rather them trade for Kuznetsov who is a bit healthier and allow them to get stronger down the middle.

Kuznetsov>Tarasenko

Yeah no kuzy is not better than a healthy tarasenko. Wsh fans want and even trade of kuzy and tank. Apparently he is a coke guy and parties. We had that in lehtera and beeglund. We defiantly don't want that. If he could find a coach that could straighten him out then that would do wonders he was amazing a couple years ago.

 

[TruBlu]

I think it's more likely that the Blues would be interested in taking a player back like Eberle than an entirely futures based deal.

Blues ownership and GM both are on the record that they believe the team is still in a championship window. While fans and others may disagree, I'd expect the team's actions to be more reflective of the beliefs held by the decision makers for the organization.

True, but that was the position they held prior to this transpiring. I'd say Tarasenko most likely returning to form and being a part of this team factored into that equation. The loss of your most dangerous scorer means you not only have to find a back up goalie and defenseman, but now you're going to have to find a top line scorer or at least a couple of top 6 to help fill the offensive gap he leaves. We weren't exactly the most dangerous scoring team to begin with. There may be too many holes to legitimately fill with qualified replacements to make us a top competitor this season with the expansion, flat cap, etc. And if we aren't competitive this year then you have a core in their 30's and a transition to a younger core would be in play then anyway. I think Army will do his due diligence to build a competitive team, but if he's not able I could see him starting the transition now.

 

[Colt55]

We’re screwed. Wherever he goes he will be determined to prove hes still it it now that he’s finally healthy. I doubt we get much in return.

I think the last 35 games he played shows he is healthy. Also I am sure the doctors will do an extensive work up. With over 10 teams looking into him I could see an over pay of what I was expecting. Also army may tell tank if he wants a trade he may have to prove he is healthy and tank could play first 20 or so games and draw interest then get traded. Hard to tell. I think k he will be gone before or right after expansion before nhl draft

 

[TLEH]

Clearly I am a moron and he has 2 years left. IGNORE THIS, that makes it worth the risk.


TLDR: i said he had 7 left, he has two. I can't read. THanks.

 

[IslesNorway]

I would take Leddy and pick.

Isles need to shed salary and can't add. Leddy and Komarov saves them a million.

 

[denis5]

I’d take Dobson along with Eberle and a 1 year cap dump from them.

I'm sure you would. Dobson isn't going anywhere. Putting aside the injury issues (though we really can't), a salary wash does us no good as the team needs to clear around $10M from the books to sign their own free agents and gain a little breathing room. Yes, if healthy, Tarasenko is a better player, but that's a big if as of now, and I don't see any way to make the money work unless the Blues are also willing to eat what's left of Ladd's ($5.5M per year cap hit, though only an average of $2.5M in actual money) contract along with Ebs and an A-/B+ prospect like Wilde. I doubt they are, and rightfully so, so I don't see a fit.

 

[Colt55]

Isles need to shed salary and can't add. Leddy and Komarov saves them a million.

Lol blues are not taking komorov and leddy for tank.

 

[Colt55]

I'm sure you would. Dobson isn't going anywhere. Putting aside the injury issues (though we really can't), a salary wash does us no good as the team needs to clear around $10M from the books to sign their own free agents and gain a little breathing room. Yes, if healthy, Tarasenko is a better player, but that's a big if as of now, and I don't see any way to make the money work unless the Blues are also willing to eat what's left of Ladd's ($5.5M per year cap hit, though only an average of $2.5M in actual money) contract along with Ebs and an A-/B+ prospect like Wilde. I doubt they are, and rightfully so, so I don't see a fit.

Yep no fit here at all.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I dont think drouin would be able to play berubes style. I am afraid he would get here and then not play.

Blueston what about

Drouin josh brook 2021 1st

For tarasenko

That's a 6'2" rhd nhl ready to take boots spot
2021 1st 30ova to get a second prospect probably long term
And drouin a reclamation project.

I am on the fence with that but the value is there.

I don't blame you for being on the Fence. Tarasenko is a star winger who had had his value ripped apart by injuries and now he is asking for a trade. Drouin's problem is likely Montreal and I think he could be an offensive surprise if he gets a fresh start on a western team but that team needs to have a bigger forward group. He don't belong on teams that already have too many soft forwards IMO.

Brook is solid but might need another AHL season. He's got good size and skates well. He could end up being a top 4D or he could end up a depth guy. It's too difficult to guess IMO.

If we were the GM's talking, I basically tell you to get all your offers and call me back. I'd see if I can beat it or not. Habs do need a Tarasenko type but I think we will also explore others options.

This off season should be interesting and Tarasenko just made it more interesting

 

[IslesNorway]

We could take Eberle if you made it worth our while. Clutterbuck or Bailey too. We have lots of $ coming off the books this year.

Eberle and Clutterbuck would be fine by me.

 

[Colt55]

Eberle and Clutterbuck would be fine by me.

Yeah is Dobson and a pick coming back too.

We are not taking deadweight and bad players for tarasenko unless good assets come back.

 

[Vektor]

He's got a big contract with a decent percentage shot to literally be a nothing piece and take up a ton of actual money, and a ton of cap space. I think he is stuck in STL. He's worth almost nothing. Its too big of a risk. A contract like that can shorten a window/keep a team bad. Can't take risks like that.


That is my opinion at least. I don't know where these huge offers are coming from. He barely looked like an NHL player at 7.5 million for the next 7 years. Who is taking that risk?

He didn't just sign his contract. It's 2 years not 7.

 

[BlueDream]

He's got a big contract with a decent percentage shot to literally be a nothing piece and take up a ton of actual money, and a ton of cap space. I think he is stuck in STL. He's worth almost nothing. Its too big of a risk. A contract like that can shorten a window/keep a team bad. Can't take risks like that.


That is my opinion at least. I don't know where these huge offers are coming from. He barely looked like an NHL player at 7.5 million for the next 7 years. Who is taking that risk?

He only has 2 years left. I don’t know where you’re getting 7.

 

[Colt55]

He's got a big contract with a decent percentage shot to literally be a nothing piece and take up a ton of actual money, and a ton of cap space. I think he is stuck in STL. He's worth almost nothing. Its too big of a risk. A contract like that can shorten a window/keep a team bad. Can't take risks like that.


That is my opinion at least. I don't know where these huge offers are coming from. He barely looked like an NHL player at 7.5 million for the next 7 years. Who is taking that risk?

Tarasenko has 2 years left. He defiantly did look like an nhl player last year. It took him time to re acclimate. Watch his last 10 games his 4 playoff games and his 5 international games for tram Russia. I have said tgis over and over. It's just easier for people to make sheet up and offer nothinf

 

[Captain Mountain]

I dont think drouin would be able to play berubes style. I am afraid he would get here and then not play.

Blueston what about

Drouin josh brook 2021 1st

For tarasenko

That's a 6'2" rhd nhl ready to take boots spot
2021 1st 30ova to get a second prospect probably long term
And drouin a reclamation project.

I am on the fence with that but the value is there.

Ignoring the complete mystery of Drouin's situation, I'm not sure where this idea that he couldn't play for a coach like Berube. He's played for hard-nosed coaches basically his entire tenure in Montreal and there have never been complaints from the coaching staff.

 

[TK 421]

He's got a big contract with a decent percentage shot to literally be a nothing piece and take up a ton of actual money, and a ton of cap space. I think he is stuck in STL. He's worth almost nothing. Its too big of a risk. A contract like that can shorten a window/keep a team bad. Can't take risks like that.


That is my opinion at least. I don't know where these huge offers are coming from. He barely looked like an NHL player at 7.5 million for the next 7 years. Who is taking that risk?

Where the hell are you getting 7 years from? Terry Cinco has 2 years left on his current contract.

 

[Colt55]

Ignoring the complete mystery of Drouin's situation, I'm not sure where this idea that he couldn't play for a coach like Berube. He's played for hard-nosed coaches basically his entire tenure in Montreal and there have never been complaints from the coaching staff.

He had issues with Tampa and berube is close to his style. I wasn't saying I dont think he could play I more meant that berube won't play him. Hoffman got benched because he wouldn't play berubes game and he was one of the better forwards we had last season.

That's what I meant.

 

[Colt55]

Where the hell are you getting 7 years from? Terry Cinco has 2 years left on his current contract.

He is also healthy and nor injured. Had 2 goals in 4 playoff games tore it up in international but nobody wants to talk about that they just want to beat the drum of damaged goods. Then say he would be awesome for my team. But he is damaged so we give you poop you take it. Lol