Player Discussion Vitali Kravtsov - Signed 2-Year Deal with Traktor Chelyabinsk

[EdJovanovski]

Just scored a very nifty goal straight out of the penalty box, partial breakaway with a very bouncy puck, came down the wing and banked it off the goalie and in

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[Vancouver_2010]

It doesn't matter how many times he scored in the KHL if he is unwilling to come back though -captain obvious

Did he even hint about his intention to come back?

 

[MS]

It doesn't matter how many times he scored in the KHL if he is unwilling to come back though -captain obvious

Did he even hint about his intention to come back?

There was an interview from last month where he seemed to hint about coming back.

 

[EdJovanovski]

It doesn't matter how many times he scored in the KHL if he is unwilling to come back though -captain obvious

Did he even hint about his intention to come back?

He's definitely coming back

 

[StreetHawk]

He's definitely coming back

I don’t envision him returning to Vancouver. Likely looking for a fresh start elsewhere should be return.

 

[Hit the post]

There’s always the Nichushkin example, went back, got better and returned to the NHL successfully

I'm still hoping Koltsov comes back.

 

[iceburg]

Tocchet has shown us clearly how he wants his players to play. Kravtsov is the antithesis of this style and the KHL is not the league that will help him change. If he comes back, I don't see him coming back to Vancouver.

 

[TraderJim]

I'm still hoping Koltsov comes back.

Koltsov, Chubarov, and Tryamkin. The hole trinity of "when do you think they'll come back to the team?".

 

[credulous]

Koltsov, Chubarov, and Tryamkin. The hole trinity of "when do you think they'll come back to the team?".

chubarov ruled and only left the nhl because of the lockout. don't group him with those other losers who weren't good enough to stick in the nhl

 

[TraderJim]

chubarov ruled and only left the nhl because of the lockout. don't group him with those other losers who weren't good enough to stick in the nhl

Didn't mean it as a slight to his ability. Just one of the common names constantly brought up at the time.

 

[lakai17]

Tocchet has shown us clearly how he wants his players to play. Kravtsov is the antithesis of this style and the KHL is not league that will help him change. If he comes back, I don't see him coming back to Vancouver.

Exactly, he won't be back for too long if he can't play any defence.

 

[VanJack]

Strange that some posters are convinced Kravtsov is never coming back to Vancouver. Based on his postings on social media, it sounds like he's missing Vancouver already. He compared the city to his home town of Vladivostok.

Seems to me he connected with the fans and his team-mates, but struggled to adapt to Tocchet's defensive system. I certainly wouldn't rule out his return.

 

[StreetHawk]

Strange that some posters are convinced Kravtsov is never coming back to Vancouver. Based on his postings on social media, it sounds like he's missing Vancouver already. He compared the city to his home town of Vladivostok.

Seems to me he connected with the fans and his team-mates, but struggled to adapt to Tocchet's defensive system. I certainly wouldn't rule out his return.

If he can't adapt to the system of the HC, Vancouver isn't going to be the place for him to establish an NHL career.

 

[Aphid Attraction]

If he can't adapt to the system of the HC, Vancouver isn't going to be the place for him to establish an NHL career.

Whats the average lifespan of an nhl coach with a team?

 

[TruKnyte]

Whats the average lifespan of an nhl coach with a team?

Likely longer than Kravtsov's contract which expires at the end of the year.

 

[Hit the post]

Koltsov, Chubarov, and Tryamkin. The hole trinity of "when do you think they'll come back to the team?".

Sergei Shirokov would respond:

 

[StreetHawk]

Whats the average lifespan of an nhl coach with a team?

He turns 24 in Dec. Not sure on the free agent rules regarding is rights. Typcially, guys hit UFA at 27 by July 1, so he'd have 3 mroe seasons after this one before becoming a UFA unless he falls under a different class, of free agent depending on his situation/status.
Is he going to out wait Tocchet? Tocchet, primary goal is to make the PO. He will be removed if he doesn’t achieve the desired goal of the team either by not making the PO or not advancing in the PO. IMO, he’s got into next season at least imo. So, either Kravstov buys into the program in 2024 or he's back in the K for 24/25 or moved to another club to try his luck.

Is he going to accept a 2 way contract or be willing to go to the A if he doesn’t make the club? Or do they agree that he can be loaned back to the K or elsewhere should he not make the Canucks roster? Or the Canucks can try to trade him, or put him on waivers and they both hope someone else claims him.
I think if he returns, he'd like some certainty as to where he will play. Not sure Tocchet is going to give him that certainty.

 

[Hit the post]

He turns 24 in Dec. Not sure on the free agent rules regarding is rights. Typcially, guys hit UFA at 27 by July 1, so he'd have 3 mroe seasons after this one before becoming a UFA unless he falls under a different class, of free agent depending on his situation/status.
Is he going to out wait Tocchet? Tocchet, primary goal is to make the PO. He will be removed if he doesn’t achieve the desired goal of the team either by not making the PO or not advancing in the PO. IMO, he’s got into next season at least imo. So, either Kravstov buys into the program in 2024 or he's back in the K for 24/25 or moved to another club to try his luck.

Is he going to accept a 2 way contract or be willing to go to the A if he doesn’t make the club? Or do they agree that he can be loaned back to the K or elsewhere should he not make the Canucks roster? Or the Canucks can try to trade him, or put him on waivers and they both hope someone else claims him.
I think if he returns, he'd like some certainty as to where he will play. Not sure Tocchet is going to give him that certainty.

Anton Rodin never stopped trying to break into the NHL until his late twenties I think. The accumulation of injuries (got beat up in the AHL, etc.,) eventually did him in I think.

 

[Hodgy]

There was an interview from last month where he seemed to hint about coming back.

Ya, it seems like Kravtsov and the Canucks were all on the same page about him going back to the KHL.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Kravtsov's KHL contract is up when Boeser and Kuzmenko are UFAs, that can't be a coincidence /tinfoil hat

 

[Hit the post]

Kravtsov's KHL contract is up when Boeser and Kuzmenko are UFAs, that can't be a coincidence /tinfoil hat

My bud Morris doesn't appreciate your sarcasm!

 

[Hansen]

Having a middle six scorer like Kravtsov come back on a cheap show me deal will be beneficial when we get hit with the cap crunch on Peteys new deal, Kuzmenko, Hronek, Boeser. Whether he will have grown into a more reliable player who can handle the minutes is another thing, but its a free lottery ticket. I still wish he had gotten a proper look with Petey and Kuz last year instead of fist feeding those minutes to Beauvillier.

 

[Vancouver_2010]

I'm still hoping Koltsov comes back.

It's really too bad he didn't decide to come back, would have a good addition for us

Koltsov, Chubarov, and Tryamkin. The hole trinity of "when do you think they'll come back to the team?".

is it true his car is still in No Signal Arena?