Player Discussion Victor Mete

[Mrb1p]

I think Weber's injury should have no bearing on if Mete goes to the WJC. With Schlemko back, Jerabek staying, Morrow remaining in the line-up, along with Petry, Alzner, and Benn, there are 6 defensemen, along with Davidson, it makes 7. And Weber won't be out long-term.

There are 3 that are better than Mete. T-H-R-E-E.

And Jerabek hasn't shown much, and Schlemko neither, so it might be two, might be four.

 

[Habs100]

There are 3 that are better than Mete. T-H-R-E-E.

And Jerabek hasn't shown much, and Schlemko neither, so it might be two, might be four.

I like Mete, but he gets bumped off the pick often on the forecheck. I've seen this a few times result in turnovers and goals.

But other dmen do that also and I'm for the tank, so I want to see him play if it's best for his development.

Really, I just don't want to see Alzner in the lineup, and if he is, I want to see him playing 13 minutes a night.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Victor Mete doing what he can to stick with Canadiens - Sportsnet.ca

Has a positive mindset if he were to be send down

 

[Runner77]

That's burning a year off of his ELC after 9 games.

Yup. Operative words "you can get yourself an apartment, kid."

Another mismanaged player -- his TOI has been in a downspiral since the last 10 games and instead of sending him down from the beginning, they're now faced with the real possibility that he's demoted now. Why did they even keep him in the first place?

 

[CauZuki]

Yup. Operative words "you can get yourself an apartment, kid."

Another mismanaged player -- his TOI has been in a downspiral since the last 10 games and instead of sending him down from the beginning, they're now faced with the real possibility that he's demoted now. Why did they even keep him in the first place?

I think he has the right attitude and giving him a taste will make him into a better D moving forward. It's one thing to see the NHL game but to get to play with Weber and vs the NHL's best is certainly formative. I am glad he got a taste, I expect him to be sent down once Schlemko proves his worth and Weber is back.

Jerabek - Weber (sheltered presences similar to Mete)
Alzner - Petry
Schlemko - Benn/Morrow

 

[admiralcadillac]

There are 3 that are better than Mete. T-H-R-E-E.

And Jerabek hasn't shown much, and Schlemko neither, so it might be two, might be four.

Jerabek has had two games and he's shown quite a bit, not sure what you're on about. Unless you mean they haven't had the opportunity to showcase themselves.

 

[Runner77]

I think he has the right attitude and giving him a taste will make him into a better D moving forward. It's one thing to see the NHL game but to get to play with Weber and vs the NHL's best is certainly formative. I am glad he got a taste, I expect him to be sent down once Schlemko proves his worth and Weber is back.

I thought a 9-game taste would have done the trick but here we are sending this kid mixed messages.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

Yup. Operative words "you can get yourself an apartment, kid."

Another mismanaged player -- his TOI has been in a downspiral since the last 10 games and instead of sending him down from the beginning, they're now faced with the real possibility that he's demoted now. Why did they even keep him in the first place?

The Habs coaches and management never cease to disappoint me. It is incredible how at every turn they make a mistake. How do you not send him down after 9 games? How do you not ensure he continues to progress after you have allowed him to play his tenth game? He went from playing 18+ mins per game in the first 13 games to 11 mins per game in the last 10 games. This franchise is a disaster, not just because of how to have dealt with Mete, but certainly inclusive of burning one of his ELC years on maybe 200 mins of NHL game time before he is sent back to juniors.

 

[CauZuki]

I thought a 9-game taste would have done the trick but here we are sending this kid mixed messages.

Well at that point there were no suitable replacements. Now Schlemko is stepping in, Morrow is making a case for bottom pairing minutes. Jerabek is also doing well in the few games we have seen him.

I'd rather have him in the O than playing limited minutes or being a healthy scratch. I think he is smart enough to know he made an impact playing 1/4 of a pro season. He can take that to the O and keep building on that success.

 

[montreal]

I don't mind sending him down, jus wish this team would stop rushing 19/20 year olds to the NHL. Hope they take their time with Juulsen at least. Not saying that Mete won't turn out to be a solid NHLer, just that it's bitten us time and time again so I would rather they opt to hold off even if it's the right call.

 

[Sand94]

Mete's not better than most of our dmen. He certainly brings a different aspect to our game which is why he was used a lot in the first few games but the results didn't come, and he's lost in his own zone so it was logical to demote him.

Lol such a bad scouting report by you it’s actually laughable... he’s far from lost in his own end, he’s actually very good positionaly and is extremely effective despite his small frame. His stick work is one of the best on the team and his decision making is probably his best asset. Mete hardly ever makes the wrong play on the entire ice surface. Is he sometimes outmuscled in the corners? Sure, but he makes up for it by constantly staying on his man with great footwork and an active stick. The amount of turnovers from some of our bottom 4 defenseman is staggeringly higher than Mete. I’d like him to use his shot more, and be able to get the puck on net a bit more often, but he’s still at worse our 3rd best defensman after Weber and Petry (if he’s having a good game).

Benn, Davidson, Alzner, are all in the same mold and only has size and strength over Mete. It’s not even close when you take into account their overall effectiveness on the ice.
Morrow is in the Mete mold and while he has been impressive recently, he still has a tendency to leave players alone in front of the net and has trouble with his stickwork in the defensive end.

Jerabek is still way too new to be able to scout him properly. I watched a few AHL games this year and left with mixes feelings. At times he was clearly one of the best defensman on the ice, but at others he was making bad plays left and right and turning the puck over constantly. So I’ll give him at least 5-10 games in the nhl before making a statement on him.

So while you can argue for Mete not playing on the first pairing, if you want to ice the best team, you have him in the lineup for the full 82 games.

 

[montreal]

If the Habs start winning some games and actually get into the playoff picture, they are going to need production from Mete. He's got 1 pt in the last 15 games. That said if the season is lost, you play him all 82 games and play him a ton unless he wears down physically.

 

[The Great Weal]

If the Habs start winning some games and actually get into the playoff picture, they are going to need production from Mete. He's got 1 pt in the last 15 games. That said if the season is lost, you play him all 82 games and play him a ton unless he wears down physically.

I think it's best to send him down to get his offensive game going again.

 

[417]

I think it's best to send him down to get his offensive game going again.

You know, just because he's not getting points, doesn't mean he's not developing.

 

[Wats]

19-Year Old NHL Defensemen - Regular Season Stats

There are 72 Defensemen who managed to hit 60 NHL games (3/4 of a season) at 19 years...on the list is none other than Bergevin and J.J. Daigneault. Ignoring the players from last generation (all players born 1980 and on):

Tyler Myers
Ivan Provorov
Jay Bouwmeester
Noah Hanifin
Drew Doughty
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
Michael Del Zotto
Zachary Werenski
Aaron Ekblad
Hampus Lindholm
Olli Määttä
Seth Jones
Cam Fowler
Victor Hedman
Morgan Rielly
Erik Gudbranson
Luke Schenn
Erik Johnson
Dmitri Kulikov
Justin Faulk
Jacob Trouba
Adam Larsson
Erik Karlsson
Nikita Zadorov
Rostislav Klesla
Mathieu Biron

 

[schnapshot]

You know, just because he's not getting points, doesn't mean he's not developing.

I think he has underrated offensive tools (due to his great vision and passing) but he really needs to improve his shot. It's Beaulieu-esque right now

 

[GoKnightsGo44]

19-Year Old NHL Defensemen - Regular Season Stats

There are 72 Defensemen who managed to hit 60 NHL games (3/4 of a season) at 19 years...on the list is none other than Bergevin and J.J. Daigneault. Ignoring the players from last generation (all players born 1980 and on):

Tyler Myers
Ivan Provorov
Jay Bouwmeester
Noah Hanifin
Drew Doughty
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
Michael Del Zotto
Zachary Werenski
Aaron Ekblad
Hampus Lindholm
Olli Määttä
Seth Jones
Cam Fowler
Victor Hedman
Morgan Rielly
Erik Gudbranson
Luke Schenn
Erik Johnson
Dmitri Kulikov
Justin Faulk
Jacob Trouba
Adam Larsson
Erik Karlsson
Nikita Zadorov
Rostislav Klesla
Mathieu Biron

Most of those players were physically superior man boys... just saying

 

[Tim Wallach]

Jerabek is still way too new to be able to scout him properly. I watched a few AHL games this year and left with mixes feelings. At times he was clearly one of the best defensman on the ice, but at others he was making bad plays left and right and turning the puck over constantly. So I’ll give him at least 5-10 games in the nhl before making a statement on him.

Agreed, but for me it's the main reason we need to keep him up. The longer he's exposed to Lefebvre, the less of an asset he is.

 

[Schwang]

The Habs coaches and management never cease to disappoint me. It is incredible how at every turn they make a mistake. How do you not send him down after 9 games? How do you not ensure he continues to progress after you have allowed him to play his tenth game? He went from playing 18+ mins per game in the first 13 games to 11 mins per game in the last 10 games. This franchise is a disaster, not just because of how to have dealt with Mete, but certainly inclusive of burning one of his ELC years on maybe 200 mins of NHL game time before he is sent back to juniors.

It certainly wasn’t his fault when they were losing all those games. I think he’s an excellent puck mover and very sound positionally. He’s not going to learn squat in the ohl. He needs to be up and to play. Cutting him down to 4 minutes after 2 periods last night was shocking. Yet the other bums continue to get big minutes. Hopefully they don’t ruin another player by mismanagement

 

[Wats]

Most of those players were physically superior man boys... just saying

Yep. Also, most of the successful ones offensively showed production at 19. An year dominating offensively in junior + top 4 D in WJC should do him more good than reduced icetime in NHL practicing how not to mess up on a bad team with weak Defense.

I disagree strongly with the notion that any D averaging 10-15min/game is some sort of important cog and impacts team performance. Jarabek can easily bring what he brings IMO.

 

[Draft]

Definitely should be sent to the WJC. However, even if he's not playing, he's practicing with NHL players and getting acclimatized to being a pro player. It's off-ice training, diet, travel schedule, and learning from the best. The resources he has access to with the Habs is lightyears beyond what he would get in junior. That's important and more valuable, IMO, than being sent down to junior.

 

[le_sean]

I think he has underrated offensive tools (due to his great vision and passing) but he really needs to improve his shot. It's Beaulieu-esque right now

He needs shooting lessons from Marc-Andre Bergeron.

Still don’t understand how a guy his size shot that hard.

 

[1909]

With Schlemko and Weber back in the line up, and 9 d-men available, they will have to cut one.

Mete is the logical choice. If they keep him, they cannot let him dry in the stands.

Davidson is the other option. Put him on waivers. I doubt anyone would take him.

 

[Habs100]

With Schlemko and Weber back in the line up, and 9 d-men available, they will have to cut one.

Mete is the logical choice. If they keep him, they cannot let him dry in the stands.

Davidson is the other option. Put him on waivers. I doubt anyone would take him.

imo Mete will either be sent to Junior or put at forward. It is debatable which one is better for his development. I think he'd be damn good at forward, but he'd probably develop better in junior.

 

[voyageur]

I don't think Mete evolves into a forward. That's poor development.

I hope he sticks around until the WJHC camp. I don't see a reason to send him down before that.

He leaves the team hungry to get back. Maybe he earns a spot on Team Canada wins a gold. Then you make your next decision based on health and depth.

With Schlemko back the coaching staff now can use two reliable defensive pairs Schlemko-Weber and Alzner-Petry. But Weber is still the kind of guy you can double shift. Maybe he gets some offensive zone time with Morrow, or Jerabek.

I think you have to keep Jerabek up, he has that 1st pass that is missing, and he can defect if you send him down.

I would say the 5-6-7 d plays out as Morrow, Jerabek, Benn and there is a healthy competition there. I think Morrow has the advantage of having played for Julien before, which is why he gets the nod. His skating is as good as Mete's. I think the fact that Mete has neither consistently QB a PP or anchored a penalty kill makes him #8 at best. And that is on the outside.

What I'd like to see is him finish a junior year and come back next year to earn the spot beside Weber, with physical maturity, though I think 21-22 are the best years to graduate.

I don't know if it is possible given he has already played out his ELC, but if he could join Lavsl for a playoff run, paired with Lernout, a minor league version of Weber, I think it would benefit him.


I don't think it hurt his development to play professionally so young. I am sure it was a learning experience. I also think he proved himself the best option to start in Schlemko's absence, and development should push him past Schlemko, creating more competition for playing time among d.