I've wondered if the revenues would be on par. Not $5 billion total but enough to keep the cap at $80 million. TV deal could be greater perhaps because there'd always be two Canadian teams playing and the gate receipts would be constantly high.
Vegas Golden Knights defeat Edmonton Oilers 4-2 - Advance to WCF
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El Travo
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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You sure showed him. That Round 2 appearance is super impressive.
yababy
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Defence wins championships
McDavid and Draisaitl gotta be the dumbest blockheads in NHL history to not be able to figure that out. 8 years now and the light bulb is still dim
McDavid and Draisaitl gotta be the dumbest blockheads in NHL history to not be able to figure that out. 8 years now and the light bulb is still dim
lionsDen
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Maybe we can be like oilers fans and root for regular season awards!
What’s funny is eichel is about to go further than mcdavids done. In his first playoff appearance.
El Travo
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He does that by getting a single win in the 3rd Round.
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I appreciate your level headed take on this (from a Calgary fan) I agree with most of your points. I dont think Woody is a fraud though, I think he is a rookie coach that has let the early success get to his head. He took the same roster Tippet had an did a lot more with it and he easily outcoached Sutter and TMac...With that said, if VGK and EDM switch coaches im pretty sure the Oilers would have won, Woody got in his own head and made some terrible coaching decisions as you pointed out.
The thing with this league and with hockey in general is that the margins between winning and losing are extremely thin. You can maybe afford one or two mistakes but the 3rd can mean your season is shorter than you hoped. This year's playoffs are a perfect example of that. The best regular season team in history was taken out by a 8th seed who only even really made it because the Blackhawks beat the Penguins for whatever stupid reason. Teams that go far have incredible attention to detail, which frankly the Oilers have lacked probably since their final against the Hurricanes in 2006.
I also just straight don't like the guy. Gives me the creeps.
For some reason it makes sense he was a one time child actor. Gives major narc vibes
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What a perfect storm for Vegas.
Knights go to conference championship and Raiders host SB 58.
Knights go to conference championship and Raiders host SB 58.
And you guys made a solid push for 9th at the end of this season so keep up the good work. Hopefully Gary can change the playoff structure so you guys don't have to go through the oilers 3 years down the road once you're a playoff team again.
Yes Eichel has had a great playoffs after being traded to a good team. Who is debating that?
Happy to see flames and avs fans bond over their hate for a team that's better than them both.
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In what world are the Oilers better than the reigning Stanley Cup champs?
It’s not 1986 anymoreYeah it's 2023. Avs were bounced in round 1.In what world are the Oilers better than the reigning Stanley Cup champs?
Funny that you mention a past year. Do you still think Tampa is the second best team in the league too then?
MrvJets
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Oilers getting swept in the playoffs occurs often lol. Only Oiler fans thought that this was the year, with AHL goaltending and defense.
bucks_oil
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That was a good video. I'd definitely make Drai in particular watch it with a coach (Woodcroft, Manson, whoever Drai trusts) instructing alongside.
If he gets pissy (I hope he wouldn't) then trade him for a haul. If he doesn't, let him absorb some of the "we have to get better" personally so that he and McD can't constantly blame management for the lack of support, and remain part of the solution.
You see in my mind, this is the issue with the Oilers right now. They no longer lack forward depth, they have depth (it may not have shown up this playoffs, but it is there), what they lack is attention to detail defensively. McDavid and Draisaitl both want to win desperately, but for too long it was "we need you to score, do your thing" and nobody has had the courage to point out the gaff's that they make when watching the puck (Nurse also a MAJOR culprit with that).
To me it's very simple, and it's been the same on any team I ever played/coached... It was originally surprising to me, but some people just don't "get" defensive awareness and it needs to be taught.
My attitude had always been "I get it, so it's pretty simple", but people are just wired differently... and what comes easy for some is mind-warping for others... so it makes complete sense that for some offensive virtuoso's, they think the game "with the puck", it leads to "get the puck" which leads to "watch the puck". And that's the schema you've got to break down so that "watch the puck" becomes "watch your man, but one eye on the puck".
And the flip side is also true... like don't ask me how to be "offensively creative", god help you! For mere mortals, the best you can get is "puck protection and puck possession" so that eventually it ends up in the skilled players hands.
My point is this: I don't see it as McDrai's fault that they don't have that defensive awareness. It isn't natural for them... I honestly believe they want to learn... I blame management for treating them with kid gloves because nobody has the guts to say "you are brilliant, but you see here... you screwed up here, here's how to avoid it next time".
To that end, it's a very tough spot to put a coach in and on successful teams, the feedback comes both from coach AND importantly from defensively aware (and RESPECTED) vet teammates. I think Smith and Keith helped with that last year and I expect Ekholm will these coming years, but there needs to be more. What this team really needs is a confident goalie who can say "on this play, this is what I need from you"... and you don't get that from a rookie and a guy who is battling depression/confidence issues (just calling it like it is).
bucks_oil
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The thing with this league and with hockey in general is that the margins between winning and losing are extremely thin. You can maybe afford one or two mistakes but the 3rd can mean your season is shorter than you hoped. This year's playoffs are a perfect example of that. The best regular season team in history was taken out by a 8th seed who only even really made it because the Blackhawks beat the Penguins for whatever stupid reason. Teams that go far have incredible attention to detail, which frankly the Oilers have lacked probably since their final against the Hurricanes in 2006.
I also just straight don't like the guy. Gives me the creeps.
For some reason it makes sense he was a one time child actor. Gives major narc vibes
I like your first paragraph... completely agree that 2006 (and maybe a few months of 2017) were the last times we had a team that any attention to detail.
I'm willing to give Woody another year... coaches also need time to mature. (and he's definitely got some maturing to do).
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Good lord, both of those sequences by Drai were just pathetic. Especially the 2nd one.
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I prefer to look at it as they've been swept twice in the last 3 seasons
ChaoticOrange
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Writing off the Dallas Stars would be a mistake. McDavid made the third round literally last season.
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You’re right! I forgot the Jets sweepI prefer to look at it as they've been swept twice in the last 3 seasons
That is bad lmfao
Duke74
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Um...it's not Draisaitl who's the idiot. If you actually watch the video, you'll see that he shakes hands with Pietrangelo (albeit briefly).
Funny how a lot of the fans revelling in the Oilers' defeat already have their teams sitting on the sidelines. Meanwhile, Vegas fans seem likely classy individuals.
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North Cole
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Does he? Didn't know people actually tracked individual wins in a series. Always thought it was just done by round. With how much stock this site puts in cups it seems kind of dumb to talk about winning a game or 2 is worse than winning 3 games even if a series is ultimately lost.
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EdmFlyersfan
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I don't really think this is soley Draisaitl's fault, this defensive system isn't very good, why the f*** would you have the D chase outside of the dots almost to the blue line. Just not a fan of that. The second one there in my view is on Nurse, he just leaves his side of the net for no reason.
This is just unnecessarily complicated. In all honesty too the first one that's just a flukey bounce for Vegas too. Their PDO is through the roof in the playoffs, I think right now they are sporting the highest PDO in modern playoff history.
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