Vegas Golden Knights defeat Edmonton Oilers 4-2 - Advance to WCF

[CgyFlamesftw]

All this talk of Ceci’s fault for own goals. Looking like Draisaitl doesn’t help much either.

 

[larek]

I don't know what every GM is thinking but it doesn't take a genius to realize that a goalie who is over 30 and is coming off a sub .890 save percentage with 4 years left on his contract is a negative asset.

Any player can be traded because there's always a price. The price for trading Campbell would be way too high for the oilers to consider trading him this offseason.

We will see - I'm predicting either Campbell gets back his no 1 or he's traded

We will see - I'm predicting either Campbell gets back his no 1 or he's traded

Just adding if Cambell gos thru same thing as last season he will be totally untradable

 

[Bounces R Way]

Said it before in the series thread but Vegas was and still probably is the most slept on team in the West. Very strong top 9 FWDs and a great top 4 D as well, among the league's best. Cassidy is a great coach too. Gets his teams to play straight forward North South responsible fundamentally sound hockey. They finished 1st in the West for a reason, and then added an elite winger in Mark Stone to their roster.


Oilers really thought they could high step swag their way through the playoffs. That they would just 'turn it on' defensively in the postseason. That shit just doesn't happen, and doesn't happen for a reason. A well coached, well built, well led team like Vegas will trump a flashy powerplay 5 on 5. They grew fat and happy off their regular season eye popping numbers and didn't improve in the areas they needed to.

Jay Woodcroft's arrogance lost them this series. Playing McDavid and Draisaitl 25 minutes all year to chase individual trophies and tossing 10 minutes tops to useful depth guys like Ryan, Janmark, and Kostin is just not how you run a professional bench. That's EA sports bullshit. Not to mention his hard on for Skinner, his reliance on Desharnais who is TERRIBLE, and generally how inept his 5v5 system was and how often his defensive schemes broke down into chasing Vegas around the place. This guy is a fraud.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

30 years without a Canadian team raising the cup. That is one giant "OOF!"

Vegas was the better team. They were the only team to finish above the Oilers in the western standings and it showed throughout the series.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

The Oilers won't win anything until the HFOilers become humbled, which the last two years should do some of that possibility. Constantly blaming refs, especially in series you lot win is an inferiority complex in the worst possible way.

Oilers lose and the saltiest fan is still an Avs fan lolllll

 

[pbgoalie]

Seems (from a distance) there was talk all season that even as the Oilers were doing well and McDavid/Draisatl were astounding, the oilers defense and goaltending just wasn’t confidence inspiring.
Getting in to the playoffs and watch those two guys play at ludicrous speed, you could still just see that there was going to be concern unless those two had the puck.

I thought the speed would overwhelm Vegas. It they really bent without breaking. Funny people were worried about a first year goalie in LT and they went 5 goalies deep and outperfomed thenOilers goaltending mostly

 

[Artemi Panarin]

Said it before in the series thread but Vegas was and still probably is the most slept on team in the West. Very strong top 9 FWDs and a great top 4 D as well, among the league's best. Cassidy is a great coach too. Gets his teams to play straight forward North South responsible fundamentally sound hockey. They finished 1st in the West for a reason, and then added an elite winger in Mark Stone to their roster.


Oilers really thought they could high step swag their way through the playoffs. That they would just 'turn it on' defensively in the postseason. That shit just doesn't happen, and doesn't happen for a reason. A well coached, well built, well led team like Vegas will trump a flashy powerplay 5 on 5. They grew fat and happy off their regular season eye popping numbers and didn't improve in the areas they needed to.

Jay Woodcroft's arrogance lost them this series. Playing McDavid and Draisaitl 25 minutes all year to chase individual trophies and tossing 10 minutes tops to useful depth guys like Ryan, Janmark, and Kostin is just not how you run a professional bench. That's EA sports bullshit. Not to mention his hard on for Skinner, his reliance on Desharnais who is TERRIBLE, and generally how inept his 5v5 system was and how often his defensive schemes broke down into chasing Vegas around the place. This guy is a fraud.

It's comical how each coach they bring in eventually reverts to the same strategy. Let's just run McDrai into the ground and expect everything else to take care of itself.

 

[Coffey]

Oilers lose and the saltiest fan is still an Avs fan lolllll

The rent free comment is actually 100% applicable to most of them.

Said it before in the series thread but Vegas was and still probably is the most slept on team in the West.

Which is insane since they were the best team in the west in the regular season lol

 

[Enniskillen]

Losers lost to the third string goalie. And the Oilers fans were gloating about Leafs’ demise. Lol shadenfreude hits them back hard.

 

[T REX]

In other words if Campbell isn't the starter he should be traded - I think he showed enuff in the playoffss to give other teams some interest BUT going to have to eat some of the contract

Good writeup on TSN looking deep into stats
bad starting Goaltending - the 3 amigos failure- Ceci and nurse duo was not good- and marchesseault line totally dominated Hopkins line was big reasons for series failure

You will have to pay someone to take him

 

[El Travo]

Oilers lose and the saltiest fan is still an Avs fan lolllll

Salty is an interesting way to put it.

 

[BKarchitect]

All this talk of Ceci’s fault for own goals. Looking like Draisaitl doesn’t help much either.

I mean if we are being truly honest - Drai has always been one of the most one-way superstars in the league. The analytics tell you this. The eye test tells you this.

Now his “one-way” is bordering on generational and still has him in the conversation for best player in the world outside McDavid. He’s not my #2 but if he’s yours, that’s certainly not a wrong opinion and maybe even the most popular one at this moment.

The thing is he has the capacity to be much better all-around. He’s smart, strong, has a huge reach…so then it goes back to the idea that Edmonton is still too hyper reliant on McDrai and the PP for offensive production. That by the middle of the Vegas series, Drai was pretty much already run into the ground (and hobbled).

This isn’t a case of “oh dummy, don’t judge a superstar by their defensive value, what do MacKinnon or Kucherov or whomever do that is Selke worthy”…this is Drai, whether it is fatigue, tactics, usage - very much being visibly bad and costly, not just mundane, with his defensive approach and effort.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Salty is an interesting way to put it.

Salty, rent free, obsessed, idk man either way why they so mad at the Oil all the time

 

[BayStBullies]

This league is a joke. Bettman and his agenda need to go. There is no reason for all Canadian teams to not just tank the next 4 years.

 

[11Messier]

I like how you framed this in a way like your opinion matters one bit lmao. Oh no he lost your respect! Hope this doesn't keep him up at night and he's able to get enough sleep for the next round.

Using Doughty - one of the biggest whiners in the league - as a comparison was just the icing on the cake

I like how you framed this in a way that your opinion of me matters. Lol. I don't think I'll be losing any sleep about it either. I know you are all holy and stuff but just in case you don't know where we are, we are on a hockey forum, a place where we give our opinions on hockey related matters. Nothing anybody says here matters. We are here to have some fun and talk out our opinions but thanks for reminding me that your opinion matters but mine doesn't.

And I agree with you 100%. Drew Doughty is one of the biggest whiners in the league. Goes to show how low on the totem pole Pietroangelo is when he is much worse.

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

It's just too hard for the Oilers to win when literally everything is stacked against them!

1) The refs hate them!
2) Whoever they start in goal is a plug and there opponents is Hasek
3) Bettman and the NHL conspiring against them.

Congratulations VGK, y'all played alright I guess.

I really hope no Edmonton fan is saying that... You can't get that many #1 overall picks (topped off with the best generational player of this century) and believe the upper management is against you.

 

[larek]

Said it before in the series thread but Vegas was and still probably is the most slept on team in the West. Very strong top 9 FWDs and a great top 4 D as well, among the league's best. Cassidy is a great coach too. Gets his teams to play straight forward North South responsible fundamentally sound hockey. They finished 1st in the West for a reason, and then added an elite winger in Mark Stone to their roster.


Oilers really thought they could high step swag their way through the playoffs. That they would just 'turn it on' defensively in the postseason. That shit just doesn't happen, and doesn't happen for a reason. A well coached, well built, well led team like Vegas will trump a flashy powerplay 5 on 5. They grew fat and happy off their regular season eye popping numbers and didn't improve in the areas they needed to.

Jay Woodcroft's arrogance lost them this series. Playing McDavid and Draisaitl 25 minutes all year to chase individual trophies and tossing 10 minutes tops to useful depth guys like Ryan, Janmark, and Kostin is just not how you run a professional bench. That's EA sports bullshit. Not to mention his hard on for Skinner, his reliance on Desharnais who is TERRIBLE, and generally how inept his 5v5 system was and how often his defensive schemes broke down into chasing Vegas around the place. This guy is a fraud.

You will have to pay someone to take him

Been done many times before by others

 

[Reparlana]

I really hope no Edmonton fan is saying that... You can't get that many #1 overall picks (topped off with the best generational player of this century) and believe the upper management is against you.

Excuse me sir the Year is 2023, which year did you come from.

Edit: That's the sadly, ironic point. You think they'd be a little more humble.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

All this talk of Ceci’s fault for own goals. Looking like Draisaitl doesn’t help much either.

I mean, really all of them. Nugent-Hopkins lets his man go but then covers no one. Draisaitl is just kinda hanging out playing zone I guess when they're in man coverage?

And the last goal is an impressive level of puck watching I saw from the Wings the last few years. You don't expect that from a second round playoff team though.

 

[lionsDen]

Oilers lose and the saltiest fan is still an Avs fan lolllll

Mack’s still got his cup. Mcdavid still can’t say the same

 

[WhataKnight]

Whoa whoa whoa....

Neither is a Gretzky nor a Lemieux never mind Draisatl...

Das ist verrückt. Draisatl ist aehr gut aber kein Gretzky oder Lemieux. Er ist wir Kurri.

^ Bestimmt.

 

[lionsDen]

This league is a joke. Bettman and his agenda need to go. There is no reason for all Canadian teams to not just tank the next 4 years.

I think Canada should start their own league. Then they can have a Canadian winning a cup every year.. I mean the nhl is almost exclusively American teams nowadays anyways. Or you could turn those teams into lacrosse canadas true national sport

 

[BurnabyJoe7]

Mack’s still got his cup. Mcdavid still can’t say the same

A lot of Avs fans are still living in the past. Hopefully you guys can make it out of round 1 next year and not revert back to the pre 2022 Avs who were constantly disappointing come playoff time.

 

[Mez]

Said it before in the series thread but Vegas was and still probably is the most slept on team in the West. Very strong top 9 FWDs and a great top 4 D as well, among the league's best. Cassidy is a great coach too. Gets his teams to play straight forward North South responsible fundamentally sound hockey. They finished 1st in the West for a reason, and then added an elite winger in Mark Stone to their roster.


Oilers really thought they could high step swag their way through the playoffs. That they would just 'turn it on' defensively in the postseason. That shit just doesn't happen, and doesn't happen for a reason. A well coached, well built, well led team like Vegas will trump a flashy powerplay 5 on 5. They grew fat and happy off their regular season eye popping numbers and didn't improve in the areas they needed to.

Jay Woodcroft's arrogance lost them this series. Playing McDavid and Draisaitl 25 minutes all year to chase individual trophies and tossing 10 minutes tops to useful depth guys like Ryan, Janmark, and Kostin is just not how you run a professional bench. That's EA sports bullshit. Not to mention his hard on for Skinner, his reliance on Desharnais who is TERRIBLE, and generally how inept his 5v5 system was and how often his defensive schemes broke down into chasing Vegas around the place. This guy is a fraud.

I appreciate your level headed take on this (from a Calgary fan ) I agree with most of your points. I dont think Woody is a fraud though, I think he is a rookie coach that has let the early success get to his head. He took the same roster Tippet had an did a lot more with it and he easily outcoached Sutter and TMac...With that said, if VGK and EDM switch coaches im pretty sure the Oilers would have won, Woody got in his own head and made some terrible coaching decisions as you pointed out.

 

[yababy]

That playoff flop is going to taste so bitter to the Oilers. They had it ALL there for the taking this year. Laid out so well. And nope. All the way BACK to square 1 with everyone else. Cap issues coming. McDrai window closing. Bitter and long offseason indeed.

How’s this taste. Petro was a +4 with assist in game 6. 21 minutes.