Vegas Golden Knights defeat Edmonton Oilers 4-2 - Advance to WCF

[Three On Zero]

I'm as far from an Oilers fan as you can get. At first I was rooting against them. But when they were the last remaining Canadian team, I started to hope they could win the cup and end the drought.

For those that watched this series (I watched all of it), it seemed like the Oilers were the better of the two teams, especially the last game where I thought Oilers dominated.

What happened? Was it just bad puck luck and bounces? I feel this series is really weird because it should have at least gone to 7. Props to Vegas though, they are a real story. But I thought Edmonton was the best team these playoffs and now they're out.

I hope they don't do anything drastic. Getting Ekholm was the best trade-deadline deal hands down IMO and I wish the Canucks had done that instead. I think Holland doesn't deserve the flak he gets. I think Oilers are on the verge of winning the Cup if they just stick with it.

Am I completely off base here?

They were rather heavily outplayed 5on5, they don't need any "drastic" changes, but they definitely need to do something to improve their 5on5 play and defence. They rely on McDrai far too much and need to roll out 4 lines with confidence. Vegas was constantly putting out their 4th line against Edmonton's top line and were successful in doing so.

 

[Dust]

They were rather heavily outplayed 5on5, they don't need any "drastic" changes, but they definitely need to do something to improve their 5on5 play and defence. They rely on McDrai far too much and need to roll out 4 lines with confidence. Vegas was constantly putting out their 4th line against Edmonton's top line and were successful in doing so.

I was with you until here. Vegas' 4th line had the least TOI of anyone with McDavid on the ice. Cassidy looks like he got a little too much sun, but he's a far better coach than this lol.

 

[notbias]

I've never seen a more concentrated heat map of the area you want to shoot from than this...

Edmonton's D zone coverage is bad.

 

[BB79]

Vegas Golden Knights defeat Edmonton Oilers 4-2 - Advance to WCF

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WTF is that mascot supposed to be. Some type of mutant desert lizard? I guess a guy in an actual suit of armor would have been too easy..why is that guy from Star Trek playing the drum next to it?

 

[Mav3rick07]

Our emphasis next year, starting day 1 on training camp, needs to be defence. And it starts with McDavid and Draisaitl. Those are our leaders.

 

[Dust]

WTF is that mascot supposed to be. Some type of mutant desert lizard? I guess a guy in an actual suit of armor would have been too easy..why is that guy from Star Trek playing the drum next to it?

A snake?

 

[Three On Zero]

I was with you until here. Vegas' 4th line had the least TOI of anyone with McDavid on the ice. Cassidy looks like he got a little too much sun, but he's a far better coach than this lol.

Maybe it was just the last few games? He was always starting / throwing them out against McDavid. We even talked about it in the GTDs…. Or I’m going senile

 

[BurnabyJoe7]

We'd still beat you guys without Kadri and Burakovsky if the rest of the Avs were healthy/not banging hookers on game days.

Also Georgie>>>>Francouz


I'll have to console myself by watching back our 16-4 cup run last year including a sweep of your Oilers.

Every team deals with injuries and the avs were beat by a team without their top two forwards. And Landeskog was the only avs player to not start a playoff game this year. You have a loser mentality if that's your excuse for getting bounced in the first round. Every team is dealing with injuries at this time of year.

I think it's a great idea for you to rewatch games from last year now that your team is unable to win a playoff round. It's a lot better than making baseless claims that your team would beat other teams that actually moved on to the second round this year. Keep living in the past.

 

[MrvJets]

 

[Hank Plank]

Good to see there are at least a few people still around that witnessed Edmonton win a Cup.

 

[HanSolo]

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I've never seen a more concentrated heat map of the area you want to shoot from than this...

Edmonton's D zone coverage is bad.

I take it you haven't looked at Anaheim heat maps.

 

[hangman005]

I take it you haven't looked at Anaheim heat maps.

Hey I'm impressed under Deboer that red would be white

 

[Cup or Bust]

For most of the games in the series the Oilers played pretty good for about 50-55 minutes. Even defensively for a lot of the series the Oilers played pretty well. Unfortunately though in almost all of the games they had a 3- 5 minute stretch that looked like a hockey blooper reel on defense, just giving free goals away. They did the same in the LA series as well. There was no way they were going to continue winning doing that.

Vegas played well when the games were on the line and they had the opportunity to win. The Oilers blew games they had the opportunity to win.

 

[Frank Drebin]

For most of the games in the series the Oilers played pretty good for about 50-55 minutes. Even defensively for a lot of the series the Oilers played pretty well. Unfortunately though in almost all of the games they had a 3- 5 minute stretch that looked like a hockey blooper reel on defense, just giving free goals away. They did the same in the LA series as well. There was no way they were going to continue winning doing that.

Vegas played well when the games were on the line and they had the opportunity to win. The Oilers blew games they had the opportunity to win.

Good goalies bail good teams out in those moments. Skinner did not step up once. Not trying to discredit Vegas at all but this series could have been so different.

On that note, broissiot getting hurt was a blessing in da skies for Vegas. I think oilers could have won if he stayed in while hill was rock solid

 

[Cup or Bust]

Good goalies bail good teams out in those moments. Skinner did not step up once. Not trying to discredit Vegas at all but this series could have been so different.

On that note, broissiot getting hurt was a blessing in da skies for Vegas. I think oilers could have won if he stayed in while hill was rock solid

I think the short stretches where the Oilers really struggled defensively were spectacular and you cannot expect or depend on any goalie to bail you out in those situations. Maybe a few times but not every second game. Every team has some stretches where they struggle defensively but the Oilers were at a level that showed they were not ready to win a cup, I personally don't think it would have mattered who the goalie was.

 

[ChanceVegas]

WTF is that mascot supposed to be. Some type of mutant desert lizard? I guess a guy in an actual suit of armor would have been too easy..why is that guy from Star Trek playing the drum next to it?

A snake?

Gila Monster

Gila monster - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[McShogun99]

Good to see there are at least a few people still around that witnessed Edmonton win a Cup.

I watched the 1990 cup final on my moms 21 inch RCA TV. Built a shrine around the TV with Oilers Pro Set hockey cards and a signed 8 by 10 from Norm Lacombe. Never thought that the last Cup I'd see so far in my lifetime was from when I was still in elementary.

 

[Lacaar]

Good goalies bail good teams out in those moments. Skinner did not step up once. Not trying to discredit Vegas at all but this series could have been so different.

On that note, broissiot getting hurt was a blessing in da skies for Vegas. I think oilers could have won if he stayed in while hill was rock solid

Honestly Vegas's team defence was just on another level compared to Edmontons. And it wasn't close. It didn't really matter who was in net for Vegas so long as they were half ass competent.

When Edmonton got momentum Vegas was able to fall into good habits and protect their net to limit the damage.
When Vegas got momentum Edmonton panicked, lost their structure, and the circus ensued.

It was a battle of wills and Edmonton lost. Not by a lot.. but obviously by enough.

 

[IceNeophyte]

WTF is that mascot supposed to be. Some type of mutant desert lizard? I guess a guy in an actual suit of armor would have been too easy..why is that guy from Star Trek playing the drum next to it?

It is a gila monster, which in fact is a desert lizard that is indigenous to the surrounding area. We also have a guy in a suit of armor.

 

[ChanceVegas]

It is a gila monster, which in fact is a desert lizard that is indigenous to the surrounding area. We also have a guy in a suit of armor.

I guess they though a knight would be scary to kids, but not a large venomous lizard?

Always thought it was weird because there aren't that many Gilas in this area, but they are mostly in Arizona (Sonoran desert).

A rattler would have been better. A Desert Tortoise most geographically accurate (but least intimidating... probably not the vibe they were going for).

 

[IceNeophyte]

I guess they though a knight would be scary to kids, but not a large venomous lizard?

Always thought it was weird because there aren't that many Gilas in this area, but they are mostly in Arizona (Sonoran desert).

A rattler would have been better. A Desert Tortoise most geographically accurate (but least intimidating... probably not the vibe they were going for).

In fairness, ot looks more like Barney than a lizard (the mascot, not the lizard)

 

[ChaoticOrange]

They were rather heavily outplayed 5on5, they don't need any "drastic" changes, but they definitely need to do something to improve their 5on5 play and defence. They rely on McDrai far too much and need to roll out 4 lines with confidence. Vegas was constantly putting out their 4th line against Edmonton's top line and were successful in doing so.

This keeps being parroted and it's simply not true.

Shot attempts, scoring chances, dangerous chances, and expected goals all were in Edmonton's favour.

Vegas did a better job at clearing away rebounds and burying the chances they got, but Edmonton was actually not "heavily outplayed" 5v5. They WERE heavily outscored 5v5, but that's not the same thing.

 

[Zerotonine]

Good goalies bail good teams out in those moments. Skinner did not step up once. Not trying to discredit Vegas at all but this series could have been so different.

On that note, broissiot getting hurt was a blessing in da skies for Vegas. I think oilers could have won if he stayed in while hill was rock solid

Skinner in the most important game of the year with the. 725 save percentage. He was way over worked. He has potential but he needs alot of work IMO

Every one complains about oilers defence, yeah I know we ain't top end talented on the back end , but a goalie with a 3.97 GAA % and save percentage of .865 in the playoffs ain't getting you anywhere and that's not all on the D's fault for those numbers. Those are AHL at best numbers....

 

[Three On Zero]

This keeps being parroted and it's simply not true.

Shot attempts, scoring chances, dangerous chances, and expected goals all were in Edmonton's favour.

Vegas did a better job at clearing away rebounds and burying the chances they got, but Edmonton was actually not "heavily outplayed" 5v5. They WERE heavily outscored 5v5, but that's not the same thing.

When you’re heavily outscored 5on5, you were outplayed.

 

[pbgoalie]

I take it you haven't looked at Anaheim heat maps.

Mojave desert in August