Vegas about to circumvent cap again? UPD: Mark Stone back practicing.

[BMOK33]

I would be in favor of scrapping the cap altogether. No controversy about any kind of circumvent.

Next CBA without a doubt they're gonna make sweeping changes where somehow you're gonna get dinged in the postseason....its gonna suck for teams who suffer a major injury late before the TDL but I would be beyond surprised if it does not happen. We saw many off the record comments from FLA players last June or July and plenty regarding Tampa so it does seem to have enough support while the PA probably won't love it its gonna happen anyway, at least a compromise idea

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Hmm that’s interesting. So they approve of Vegas’ methods

Yes, they do. What other owner has complained?

 

[snag]

So I guess the front office should feel guilty about trading for a 4th line player and a 4th string goalie because that gave the team such an unfair advantage.

McDavid must have been terrified when he saw a potential playoff opponent make those scary additions.

To be honest, I really don't give a shit what they had, who they had, whether they played or whether they watched from the press box. I am sure McDavid didn't either. They had a job to do, that was their focus, and they didn't get it done.

Did they have an active roster available to them in the playoffs that exceeded the cap?

Fact of the matter is they did. End of story.

Is it against the rules....no. Is it sorta sketchy? Yeah. But the fact that people are trying to dance around that fact though is kind of funny. Just own it. You got a cup for Christ's sake....it's not like anyone can take it away from you.

 

[Da McBomb]

oh look

 

[Shane Diesel]

Did they have an active roster available to them in the playoffs that exceeded the cap?

Fact of the matter is they did. End of story.

There is no cap in the playoffs. Fact. End of story.

 

[snag]

There is no cap in the playoffs. Fact. End of story.

No shit sherlock.

I guess the question is then....why even have one in the regular season then?

 

[Canovin]

It's purely just as a way to have some limit on cap spending during the playoffs. I just don't think that continuing the cap as it is during the playoffs is a viable option, because there's no realistic way to get under the cap at that time. The league wouldn't want that awkward situation, no matter how reckless a team's GM is.

Having only dressed players count during the playoffs still gives those teams who do this LTIR sheninanigans a benefit, but they at least they don't get to stack the lineup to a ludicrous degree

Has Eichel been back? Just saying he'll be back in March doesn't mean anything. When he indeeds comes back people will believe it.

 

[Shane Diesel]

No shit sherlock.

Then why bring it up if you already know this?

The way the cap is calculated in the regular season couldn't be applied the same way in the playoffs. Familiarize yourself with the CBA, amigo.

 

[snag]

Then why bring it up if you already know this?

Did I start this thread?

But perhaps try answering my question then too....what is the point of the cap in the season if it means nothing when it comes to achieving the goal.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Did I start this thread?

What does that have to do with anything? You posted in the thread, didn't you?

But perhaps try answering my question then too....what is the point of the cap in the season if it means nothing when it comes to achieving the goal.

The way the cap is calculated in the regular season couldn't be applied the same way in the playoffs. Familiarize yourself with the CBA, amigo

 

[Cancuks]

It's a loophole that needs to be closed. However, all teams are able to take advantage of it but for some reason don't.

 

[snag]

The way the cap is calculated in the regular season couldn't be applied the same way in the playoffs. Familiarize yourself with the CBA, amigo

Neither that nor your condescension answers my question, ese.

 

[Curufinwe]

Next CBA without a doubt they're gonna make sweeping changes where somehow you're gonna get dinged in the postseason.

No they won't. They don't actually care.

 

[MadLuke]

It's a loophole that needs to be closed. However, all teams are able to take advantage of it but for some reason don't.

They need to be internal cap rich (most team did not back in the day use the very long very frontloaded contract trick either for that reason, not all teams do not use the Leafs paid 100% via bonus trick)
They need to be locked in for the playoff spot, which is not that many team in the league.
The players that would play ball need to exist (not just say coming back a couple of games later than otherwise, but in a significant amount), depending on their own contract situation not an easy sell, they want to play very much.

There are strong forces going in the other way.

Has for an NHL fix, both teams and players will want a LTIR type of affair, you almost cannot objectively measure being game ready health wise stuff like back pain, mental, it is quite subjective in general.

nhler are not paid during playoff games and that would be quite the can of worm, they are creative and maybe they could come up with something I can't think of in just 2 minute too obviously, but it is not obvious.

 

[Devilmademedoit]

oh look

translation: HE will walk out hand in hand with Eichel for game one of the playoffs

for me there is an easy solution. To be able to play in the playoffs? You need to be on the ACTIVE roster for the final game of the year of the nhl team or the AHL team. I add AHL for black aces all teams carry in the playoffs.

 

[PuckG]

The funny thing is fans acting like their own team wouldn't do the same thing if the situation presented itself.

News flash peple, your team is not all sunshine and roses either. I guarantee you every team would do it too.

As long as it within the rules, teams will exploit it.

Tampa was the only team to go against it in the past, but the other gms didn't care to change it.

If every team wasn’t going to do it, they most certainly will now since your team has normalized it and shown it can happen without penalty.

It’ll be flawless timing if they address it this off season.

 

[Devilmademedoit]

Next CBA without a doubt they're gonna make sweeping changes where somehow you're gonna get dinged in the postseason....its gonna suck for teams who suffer a major injury late before the TDL but I would be beyond surprised if it does not happen. We saw many off the record comments from FLA players last June or July and plenty regarding Tampa so it does seem to have enough support while the PA probably won't love it its gonna happen anyway, at least a compromise idea

From what I know about the new NHLPA head? this guy knows how to negotiate. My guess there will be another work stoppage when the current CBA has ended

 

[POVERTY]

Stanley Cup game winning goal: Crosby (Assists: Guentzel, Malkin)

The Golden Knights are back-to-back Champs!

 

[Super Cake]

It's a loophole that needs to be closed. However, all teams are able to take advantage of it but for some reason don't.

Because not all teams have such bad luck with injuries.

 

[Shane Diesel]

translation: HE will walk out hand in hand with Eichel for game one of the playoffs

for me there is an easy solution. To be able to play in the playoffs? You need to be on the ACTIVE roster for the final game of the year of the nhl team or the AHL team. I add AHL for black aces all teams carry in the playoffs.

So you would punish teams and players for simply getting hurt through no fault of their own? Seems cruel and vindictive.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Neither that nor your condescension answers my question, ese.

The way the CBA is setup does in fact answer why a cap in the playoffs doesn't make sense (players aren't paid in the playoffs and the system of calculating daily cap hit isn't applicable), but please tell me about your hurt feelings and abject ignorance instead.

It's all just a conspiracy, right?

 

[TheNumber4]

Cap Cheating Knights are back. Throw another asterisk on their Cup Win.

It’s no wonder why other Teams and GMs wanted Vegas’ shenanigans investigated by the League according to Friedman. Unfortunately you have the incompetent Bettman at the helm so it’s not like he’s going to do anything about his Golden Child Knights.

 

[Hodge]

No shit sherlock.

I guess the question is then....why even have one in the regular season then?

So that the owners can rip the players off. That's the only reason the cap has ever existed.

 

[CycloneSweep]

So you would punish teams and players for simply getting hurt through no fault of their own? Seems cruel and vindictive.

I think having your game day lineup aav not exceeding the regular season cap hit is fair.

Cause if not you have teams that are like 10+mill winning the cup which is unfair to the other teams.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Cap Cheating Knights are back. Throw another asterisk on their Cup Win.

It’s no wonder why other Teams and GMs wanted Vegas’ shenanigans investigated by the League according to Friedman. Unfortunately you have the incompetent Bettman at the helm so it’s not like he’s going to do anything about his Golden Child Knights.

At least Oilers fans have their excuses already lined up before the playoffs start. I applaud the proactiveness when it comes to blame.