In a recent post-practice interview, Tocchet specifically said that Bains isn’t a prospect but a “good young NHL player”. This feels like a move where Tocchet wants Bains in the line-up over Sprong.
Confirmed with Link: [VAN/SEA] Daniel Sprong to Seattle for Future Considerations
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Trade has zero (0%) to do with talent, on-ice production, Tocchet
Entirely his attitude.
Why do you think he's been kicked off 6 (six!!) teams so far
Who knows? But 'future considerations' is still better than losing him on waivers for nothing.
I didn’t think he was bad on the 4th line, he brought speed and would rush the puck with such finesse - was kind of refreshing.
In the playoffs, I can see his style being useless, on the 4th line so no big deal.
Prob did the player a solid as it didn’t work out with him in the top 6
In the playoffs, I can see his style being useless, on the 4th line so no big deal.
Prob did the player a solid as it didn’t work out with him in the top 6
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Agreed. That .670 winning pctg has been weak at best. I want Willie Desisrdins back.
The only material thing is a contract slot. I guess all of this is immaterial unless a player is coming back.
Hard to figure:
Really didn't give Sprong much of a look. Can see he has some skill, although he wasn't scoring. But he seemed to be giving an effort and in some of the games was contributing by supplying a decent forecheck and at least getting the puck into the offensive zone. In addition, he did create some traffic toward the net. I think you could make a case he's been better than Heinen.
Think you might have expected something back. Even a late round draft. Maybe wishful thinking but so many teams are having trouble scoring you might hope you could get something.
As suggested might have something to do with the cap or moving players up and down from the farm. But none look particularly ready and the Canucks immediately lose some depth.
Out of the blue strange move and Strong better not play well with a divisional opponent. Seems like Allvin has no trouble making such potentially dangerous divisional trades. In fact, most of the trades have been with direct rivals. In this case, if you want to be artful, the hope might be it ties up some Kracken cap space that might have used at the trade deadline.
Also confirms that Rutherford and Allvin never rest.
Really didn't give Sprong much of a look. Can see he has some skill, although he wasn't scoring. But he seemed to be giving an effort and in some of the games was contributing by supplying a decent forecheck and at least getting the puck into the offensive zone. In addition, he did create some traffic toward the net. I think you could make a case he's been better than Heinen.
Think you might have expected something back. Even a late round draft. Maybe wishful thinking but so many teams are having trouble scoring you might hope you could get something.
As suggested might have something to do with the cap or moving players up and down from the farm. But none look particularly ready and the Canucks immediately lose some depth.
Out of the blue strange move and Strong better not play well with a divisional opponent. Seems like Allvin has no trouble making such potentially dangerous divisional trades. In fact, most of the trades have been with direct rivals. In this case, if you want to be artful, the hope might be it ties up some Kracken cap space that might have used at the trade deadline.
Also confirms that Rutherford and Allvin never rest.
I'm confused. Recognizing his downside with regards to some defensive deficiencies, he's still a solid, heavy player with speed who does score from the bottom of the roster. He can forecheck and is difficult to move off the puck. He's a guy you try and figure out. Sorry to see him go.
Boy are we going to be surprised when we get a first, a second and a depth player back from this trade later in the season. ha ha Well, perhaps there's a deal in place to take on some cap for the Canucks at the deadline? Is that a thing?
Boy are we going to be surprised when we get a first, a second and a depth player back from this trade later in the season. ha ha Well, perhaps there's a deal in place to take on some cap for the Canucks at the deadline? Is that a thing?
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I guess tocchet and management must think the Canucks have too much depth
In a vacuum, this move indeed confusing
In a vacuum, this move indeed confusing
Daniel Wrong amirite.
But seriously, don't love this. Would rather have hom sitting in the press box trying to improve his defensive awareness over time. I'm assuming future considerations = an expiring contract in late June, so just don't see the point of trading him now.
The contract spot being needed is the only thing I guess, but don't think that's the case. Likely just giving a guy who the coach wasn't trusting the chance to play elsewhere, but would have kept him for the time being (seeing we aren't likely getting anything of value back).
But seriously, don't love this. Would rather have hom sitting in the press box trying to improve his defensive awareness over time. I'm assuming future considerations = an expiring contract in late June, so just don't see the point of trading him now.
The contract spot being needed is the only thing I guess, but don't think that's the case. Likely just giving a guy who the coach wasn't trusting the chance to play elsewhere, but would have kept him for the time being (seeing we aren't likely getting anything of value back).
Not really surprising but... (probably a late pick, not even necessarily for the 2025 draft)
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Been told "future considerations is based on his performance" sooooo some kind of pick [contains quote post or other embedded content]
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Up until the last few games the lines were in a blender with a rotating cast of characters through the top six and we were having defensive breakdowns up and down the lineup. I would have liked to see Sprong get an honest audition in a scoring role given those circumstances. But c’est la vie.
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He's Dutch.
I'm hearing that Sprong will be filing a complaint with the BC Human Rights Tribunal for this gross discrimination.
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I don’t think JR and Allvin cares about reading with divisional team, at all.
Was googling around for stories about these alleged attitude problems and stumbled upon this old headline
oh we might get someting out of this?Not really surprising but... (probably a late pick, not even necessarily for the 2025 draft)
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Those dope-smokin' tulip pickers! And everyone knows that they can play field hockey but not ice hockey.
But he has now been acquired by a team that had him before so there goes your theory.
I think this is a case of management doing what they can to find a fit a fit for him if it didn’t work out in Vancouver.
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Pretty much a nothing move. If they didn't see a long term fit, no reason to have him on the roster with Joshua coming back, and Lekkerimaki knocking on the door. He'd be eating up cap space sitting in the press box. Better to get a potential pick back and send him to a place he's comfortable than lose him on waivers for nothing.
Well...not guaranteed. Sometimes both teams will just agree to basically forget about it and not send anything the other way. Sometimes it'll result in a late pick or an AHL/depth player.
