Confirmed with Link: [VAN/NYR] JT Miller, Erik Brannstrom, & Jackson Dorrington for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, and 1st 2025 (Top-13 Protected, Unprotected after)

[Bleach Clean]

Dunno if I buy this argument, last season JT played 20 more min with Hughes compared to Pettersson, and this season Pettersson has played 20 more min with Hughes compared to JT. JT's outproduced him both times.

But also I'm making a joke about how ridiculous this situation is.

The deployment with Hughes is just as important as time spent with Hughes. As evidenced by JT's 60% Ozone start ratio.

Simply joining the flow of play with Hughes does not compare.

But now, Pettersson will have both. (No excuses)

 

[Snatcher Demko]

Man that JT Miller/Ryan Kesler comparison was spot on. To the end

I always compared him more with Bertuzzi. He was never an elite defensive player and wore his heart on his sleeve.

 

[B-rock]

With that Rutherford/Mason article laying the groundwork that both JT and EP40 were inconsolable and entirely incapable of solving their differences, you gotta wonder if a Pettersson trade is a fast follow here.

Rutherford coming out a couple days ago saying that they’ve tried it all and can’t get anywhere, now makes it pretty clear that he was setting expectations that both guys are babies not worth building around and that he’ll be getting rid of both of them. Essentially, he’s framing the situation as unfixable. Both players are selfish boneheads. For the good of the club both players will be sent packing.

 

[thecupismine]

Chytil is much better than Bonino, injury concerns aside

The year they acquired Bonino he had 49 points in 82 games (better than Chytil has ever paced at), as a 25 year old center (same as Chytil now) in a much lower scoring era. He solidified himself as a core third line center for a cup winning team after the Canucks traded him for a worse player in Sutuer.

I doubt Chytil is able to up his game to a second line caliber guy based on his career to date. Obviously, I hope that changes now that he's a Canuck, but I'm not about to put on the rose colored glasses just because he wears our colors now.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Think some are underrating what Chytil brings. He's an excellent transition player who has tremendous speed. He's got nearly identical even strength production to Miller. The main red flag is his health (which is a big one), but when he's healthy I think he's going to surprise a lot of people here.

Trying to think positive. Look at how Byram turned things around in Buffalo. He was fading in Colorado with the exact same concerns as Chytil: one hit away from being retired. Now he's firmly established himself as a top four and is having a solid season. Yes, the health risk is still there, but who knows how things will turn out.

 

[Nuckles]

Ahahah. This is ridiculous. Context is important.

If you expected JT miller, with his personality issues, contract well into his 30s, and NTC would get even close to what a 1st line center gets, that is 100% on you.

He's 31 years old. He has been playing injured for most/all of this season, and has still shown flashes of great play despite that + all the drama surrounding the team.

Management should have made moves months ago to shake things up and improve the team. Instead they let it fester to this point where they felt they *HAD* to trade Miller for scraps.

But ignoring all this, the move should have been to trade Pettersson instead if they couldn't get a decent return for Miller.

If you think it's reasonable to trade a 1st line center signed to a good cap hit for a few more years in a rapidly rising salary cap for garbage then that's 100% on you.

 

[PG Canuck]

Pretty well reported he's not going to waive for any trade

He will once JT gets there

 

[Hyzer]

Traded a 100pt centre for garbage because two players couldn’t be f***ing grown ups.

Honestly this team is cursed. We are cooked

 

[Baby Pettersson]

What a joke if a ****ing franchise I hate this team. I'm so pissed right now.

 

[Zarpan]

Trade return seems pretty mediocre, although it seems Miller's rumored trade value has been lacking a bit in the past too.

Rumored trade two years ago was for Chytil, Lundqvist and a 1st.

Chytil's value has been dinged due to missing most of last year with a concussion.

Lundqvist was considered a very good prospect at the time, although he hasn't lived up to that in Dallas.

That return would have been better than the current return, although Miller is now nearly 32 compared to 29 1/2 then.

 

[PG Canuck]

What a joke if a ****ing franchise I hate this team. I'm so pissed right now.

Delete HFNucks please

 

[tantalum]

We will have to say what happens. I like Chytil and might just be a player that can take off a bit getting out of New York.

Mancini poor numbers but he’s a first year pro and a AHL/NHL tweener it seems which is promising.

Essentially it seems underwhelming, however, I can’t shake the feeling that the Rangers are doing a good job of impeding player development.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Delete HFNucks please

I hate this team but I'm never going anywhere. I still hate them though.

Such a dumb trade. Prove me wrong Canucks!

 

[Orr4Norris]

There is no chance in hell. Especially with the rift between Miller and Pettersson. It was time to move on. There was no turning back after Rutherford leaked everything. You dont think every team gets better with the cap going up? Just the Canucks?

I was talking in the hypothetical of Petey and Miller not being giant twats

 

[valkynax]

So...what now?

If this is all Allvin and Moleman will do, they are making a dash straight to the finish line where commando dimbo awaits.

 

[Spectrefire]

He's 31 years old. He has been playing injured for most/all of this season, and has still shown flashes of great play despite that + all the drama surrounding the team.

Management should have made moves months ago to shake things up and improve the team. Instead they let it fester to this point where they felt they *HAD* to trade Miller for scraps.

But ignoring all this, the move should have been to trade Pettersson instead if they couldn't get a decent return for Miller.

If you think it's reasonable to trade a 1st line center signed to a good cap hit for a few more years in a rapidly rising salary cap for garbage then that's 100% on you.

I mean, you might as well do a full rebuild if you're thinking on building a team around a 32 year old declining Miller as your top center.

At least with Pettersson there's upside.

With Miller you're basically going all in on downsides.

 

[The Iron Goalie]

I like Chytil (injury concerns aside), a 1st is always nice (and can be flipped in another trade ie Hronek), and I'm a big Mancini truther.

Overall I'm fine with the return, but definitely would've like a bit more. A whelming trade.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Don't think it's doomsday as some suggest. Return was always going to be shit and Miller was not going to magically get younger or less toxic. We're the Canucks winning the cup this year with Miller? No. Does it make this team weaker next year? Yes but they still have the next 5/6 months to change that.

I'll hold my full view of this trade until after the next dominos drop.

 

[credulous]

So...what now?

If this is all Allvin and Moleman will do, they are making a dash straight to the finish line where commando dimbo awaits.

i hope they just kinda chill the rest of the season. maybe trade suter and boeser at the deadline but hold onto the picks until the draft at least. if they're buyers at the deadline i'm gonna be deeply disappointed

 

[Ninjadude]

I was going to root for Miller on his new team if the return was good...but it blows donkey balls. I hope the Rags go on a losing streak and miss the playoffs.

Next up....send Petey to the Rags for Laff, Schneider, 2026 1st and their top prospect. We'll circle back in a few years and pick up Petey for dirt cheap. See how they like it!

 

[Caspian]

if they use the 1st and cap space to get a defenseman maybe not all is lost

 

[brock hughes007]

So are we still trading Pettersson
Or is that it

 

[MS]

Think some are underrating what Chytil brings. He's an excellent transition player who has tremendous speed. He's got nearly identical even strength production to Miller. The main red flag is his health (which is a big one), but when he's healthy I think he's going to surprise a lot of people here.

He’s a decently productive soft-minute middle-6 forward. Has had one huge 25-game run in his career (that got him his current bad contact). Doesn’t PK. Can’t win face offs, don’t think it’s entirely clear he’s a C long term. Not good defensively.

Major injury concerns.

Pettersson didn't run Miller out of town. Miller ran Miller out of town.

It’s a hell of a lot more complicated than that and everything I’ve heard puts both players in a pretty equally negative light.

 

[Iron Mike Sharpe]

$6.65 in cap space & a 1st to flip for a legit D.

Tocchet now has no choice to put Hughes & Boeser with Pettersson instead of endlessly saddling him with a rotating cast game after game. Miller always got the plum spots, even coming back from his tantrum. But knowing Tocchet, he could Chytil with DeBrusk & Boeser on the top line and stick Petey with Heinen & PDG on the 2nd unit.

 

[Vancouver_2010]

Again, as I and many people here have said for weeks, JT Miller didn't have much trade value.

He's 32, has an NMC, has a long contract, and is a known toxic malcontent. That's a lot of red flags.

The trade return is not a surprise.

Again, if that is the best return we got, then we can tell Petterson to suck it up, its not a big request as he is earning more than 10 million dollars per year.