Proposal: Van LA Blockbuster

[Ledge And Dairy]

Are you 12?

? You are the one who cant comprehend what I wrote

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Horvat only has 2 years left until UFA, so I disagree it would be an earnest offer for McDavid...

Offering Hughes + Pettersson would be an honest attempt

No, it wouldn't. There are about three players that are any part of a reasonable offer that you could construct for McDavid that wouldn't leave the roster they are departing so gutted as to be useless and one of them is already on Edmonton.

MacKinnon
Draisaitl
Matthews

Pretty much every other player in the league would require a very significant add to them for some reason or another (either too old in comparison to what McDavid would provide, not proven enough to deal the best player in hockey, or simply being a very good to great player and not elite, elite)

Hughes and Pettersson would be turned down faster than McDavid could finish the All-Star skating competition.

 

[McSuper]

Hughes and Horvat to LA
Doughty to Vancouver

Gets Vancouver a long term upgrade on Hughes.
LA gets younger and sheds salary.

I hate Vancouver , But only a brain dead GM would make this trade from Vancouver point of view .

 

[Legionnaire]

No, it wouldn't. There are about three players that are any part of a reasonable offer that you could construct for McDavid that wouldn't leave the roster they are departing so gutted as to be useless and one of them is already on Edmonton.

MacKinnon
Draisaitl
Matthews

Pretty much every other player in the league would require a very significant add to them for some reason or another (either too old in comparison to what McDavid would provide, not proven enough to deal the best player in hockey, or simply being a very good to great player and not elite, elite)

Hughes and Pettersson would be turned down faster than McDavid could finish the All-Star skating competition.

Umm. If McDavid is ever traded it will be because he wants out. If he wants out you're not talking those returns.

 

[D4ngleSZN]

Byram + Clarke + 1st for Hughes

 

[kilowatt]

Byram + Clarke + 1st for Hughes

Woah, when did LA get Byram? We don't need Hughes anymore!

 

[D4ngleSZN]

Woah, when did LA get Byram? We don't need Hughes anymore!

Lol I meant Byfield

 

[soothsayer]

The OP in this thread:

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Umm. If McDavid is ever traded it will be because he wants out. If he wants out you're not talking those returns.

I'm aware. I'm just saying that in terms of actual roster value, you can base a hypothetical swap including those guys (ignoring the fact that McDavid isn't leaving Edmonton unless he demands out of Edmonton) whereas 99.9% of players in the league are simply so far out of the realm as to be completely ludicrous. In pure hypothetical value for a Connor McDavid swap, that's the type of player you'd have to include to avoid it being an offer that is catastrophic to your roster and at that point, you're probably better keeping your guy anyway. Colorado would clearly never offer up MacKinnon for McDavid either.

My post was more to state how I don't think that Hughes + Pettersson is an earnest offer for McDavid. I don't think that's remotely close.

 

[elitepete]

Hughes and Horvat to LA
Doughty to Vancouver

Gets Vancouver a long term upgrade on Hughes.
LA gets younger and sheds salary.

Canucks get significantly older and significantly worse. Terrible attempt.

 

[apocalypse]

So LA gives up their best dman of ages in return for a young dman and a top 9 forward? LA needs Doughty. That's a No.

 

[Hammman]

So LA gives up their best dman of ages in return for a young dman and a top 9 forward? LA needs Doughty. That's a No.

Did you seriously just call Horvat a top 9 forward?

 

[Kurrilino]

Did you seriously just call Horvat a top 9 forward?

I guess he is absolutely right.
What do you call a 39 point forward?

 

[wavaxa2]

I guess he is absolutely right.
What do you call a 39 point forward?

I would call him someone who would have been second in scoring on last year's Kings.

 

[Tempo]

I would call him someone who would have been second in scoring on last year's Kings.

Savage.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

So LA gives up their best dman of ages in return for a young dman and a top 9 forward? LA needs Doughty. That's a No.

Oh look someone who has never watched Horvat play, like even once, or has any idea who Horvat is.

Your team does this every day of the week, do some research, you'll see.

 

[apocalypse]

Oh look someone who has never watched Horvat play, like even once, or has any idea who Horvat is.

Your team does this every day of the week, do some research, you'll see.

Ok let me see. LA trades a generational dman who is arguably still in his prime, for a young up and coming dman, which they already have enough of - needing vets and experience... And throw in a forward who's got some skill. What universe does this make sense in for the kings? SMH.

 

[McJedi]

Ok let me see. LA trades a generational dman who is arguably still in his prime, for a young up and coming dman, which they already have enough of - needing vets and experience... And throw in a forward who's got some skill. What universe does this make sense in for the kings? SMH.

LA is trading away the worst of the three players in this deal. To get two better players, both of which are younger.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Ok let me see. LA trades a generational dman who is arguably still in his prime, for a young up and coming dman, which they already have enough of - needing vets and experience... And throw in a forward who's got some skill. What universe does this make sense in for the kings? SMH.

This universe. This trade is ludicrously slanted towards the Kings in this universe.

For more reference, Hughes is 132 games into his career, skating 20+ mins a night and over 25 a night so far this year. He's not some prospect D now. He's an NHL defenseman.

In his 132 games, he's got 99 points. In Drew Doughty's last 132 games, he's got around 79.

If I'm Vancouver, I don't swap Quinn Hughes for Drew Doughty because they have the same term and Hughes is making 3.15M less than Doughty while playing at the same level.

 

[HasbeenHallzy]

I guess he is absolutely right.
What do you call a 39 point forward?

Bo has been at a consistent 60pt pace the last 4 years..... Two shortened seasons which he still produced at a .74ppg rate doesn't make him a sub .5ppg player all of a sudden..... Good effort tho

 

[Canuck Luck]

So LA gives up their best dman of ages in return for a young dman and a top 9 forward? LA needs Doughty. That's a No.

Tell me you don’t follow hockey outside of la without telling me you don’t follow hockey outside of la.

I guess he is absolutely right.
What do you call a 39 point forward?

I guess Kopitar is a middle 6 forward? I mean what else do you call a 50 point forward?

In your eyes pettersson must be a 4th line 21 point player. Crazy that he signed for over 7M per and that’s seen as a fair contract for a 21 point player! Has the hockey world gone mad thinking that’s worth 7M?!?

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Horrible for Vancouver, like a special kind of horrible

OP says Blockbuster, and like Blockbuster they should close this thread

 

[Bankerguy]

I would not trade Hughes for him 1 for 1. Now you throw in Horvat too?
What a garbage proposal
Doughty turns 32 this year lol.... cmon man.

 

[apocalypse]

This universe. This trade is ludicrously slanted towards the Kings in this universe.

For more reference, Hughes is 132 games into his career, skating 20+ mins a night and over 25 a night so far this year. He's not some prospect D now. He's an NHL defenseman.

In his 132 games, he's got 99 points. In Drew Doughty's last 132 games, he's got around 79.

If I'm Vancouver, I don't swap Quinn Hughes for Drew Doughty because they have the same term and Hughes is making 3.15M less than Doughty while playing at the same level.

Doughty is a beast with minutes. Playing on an offensively anemic team. He's worth much more than he would fetch in a trade. LA says no, as does van.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Doughty is a beast with minutes. Playing on an offensively anemic team. He's worth much more than he would fetch in a trade. LA says no, as does van.

That's fair. Doughty for Hughes taking all into consideration is a fair swap (age and lesser contract $ on Hughes's side with needing to grow to become a truly complete D, veteran experience and being a truly elite two-way D on Doughty's side with his age and prohibitive term as a downside).

In no world is Bo Horvat the difference between the two. Just given the age and lesser contract while blooming into a top pairing/#1D role, I'd take Hughes over Doughty straight up and would actually probably want the add coming from LA (insignificant, sure, but I think Hughes at 7.85 is worth ever so slightly more than Drew Doughty at 11M)

That's why this contract is bad. It's two players who valuewise are pretty close with Vancouver for some reason adding in another high value asset.