Confirmed Signing with Link: [VAN] F Daniel Sprong signs with the Canucks (1 year, $975k)

[Regal]

Debrusk- Miller - Boeser
Hoglander - Ep40 - Sprong
Garland - Bleuger - Joshua
Heinen - Suter - Sherwood

That would be fun, lets load it up

Wouldn’t mind Heinen and DeBrusk with Petey and try Sherwood with Miller. Let Hoglander and Sprong have some soft minutes on the 4th to try to score

 

[Todd1a]

What a steal

 

[BKarchitect]

I was about to say, Sprong and Sherwood are both classic 4th line all offense guys so why not just roll with a bizarro world 4th line featuring two all offense wingers who have never met a shot they don’t like to take between Teddy, a guy who doesn’t shoot anyways and can act as a third defenseman.

I see already a tendency to put Sprong in the top six spot because of his scoring rate - but the thing about him is he can do his offensive damage in ten minutes with nobody linemates. Keeping him on some weird all offense lower line still gets you his offensive juice without exposing one of your core lines or additional important minutes to the poorer parts of his play, handicapping somebody like EP40 with extra babysitting duties. Guys like Heinen are much more equipped to be a low maintenance mesh higher in the line up than Sprong.

 

[LuckyBoeser]

Always funny when an advanced stat dude is surprised that a player doesn’t get more usage when anyone who watches the player play with their eyes open can easily see why

There are not any indications in the tweet that he is "surprised" about Sprong's usage

 

[Canucks LB]

Gives lekkerimaki a year in the AHL to get some pro experience, which is pretty important as well.

 

[KCC]

Debrusk- Miller - Boeser
Hoglander - Ep40 - Sprong
Garland - Bleuger - Joshua
Heinen - Suter - Sherwood

That would be fun, lets load it up

Oof. Not great at all. They better hope their shooting percentage stays high again.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

For this price I’d have kept him in Detroit. He provided decent offense in limited minutes and put in more effort defensively than previous years. Solid signing for Vancouver.

 

[Paulinbc]

Is there anyone the Canucks aren't interested in?

Yes. Just about all of your players.

 

[Paulinbc]

If he can just play remotely

You want him to play from home?

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Spring has Sprong. Under one million? Good signing.

 

[saska sault]

Great value for a guy who can likely score 20 this year.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I've heard some people talking about too many players so the prospect won't get a chance. I've never heard of teams complaining about depth. They didn't have enough and when Boeser went down they didn't have a lot of options.

DeBrusk, Heinen, Sprong can all play top 6

Not Heinen. He's not top 6 player.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Can't fault getting a potential 20-30 goal guy for under $1 mil, even if he is a basket case in the D zone.

 

[Bankerguy]

Hes cracked 20 goals once in his career

he said "averaging". do you unserstand what that means?
85G is 344GP.

seriously, they need age verification on HF

 

[WetcoastOrca]

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Wouldn’t mind Heinen and DeBrusk with Petey and try Sherwood with Miller. Let Hoglander and Sprong have some soft minutes on the 4th to try to score

I like DeBrusk with Petey too. And Heinen could be a fit as well but if not at least EP has one legitimate top 6 winger. Let the other tweeners like Hoglander, Heinen etc fight it out for the second winger.
That’s a very deep forward group now.

 

[Three On Zero]

Can't fault getting a potential 20-30 goal guy for under $1 mil, even if he is a basket case in the D zone.

He’s the Canucks Jeff Skinner just at 1/3 the price.

Both have defensive warts
Both have coaching warts
Both had near identical production last season

 

[kvladimir]

Debrusk- Miller - Boeser
Hoglander - Ep40 - Sprong
Garland - Bleuger - Joshua
Heinen - Suter - Sherwood

That would be fun, lets load it up

I'm thinking along similar lines, but I would spread things out better in the top 9, like this:

Hoglander-Miller-Boeser
Debrusk-Pettersson-Sprong
Joshua-Blueger-Garland
Heinen/Podkolzin-Suter-Sherwood

Top 2 lines each have one guy who isn't a true 1st/2nd liner (Hog/Sprong respectively), but it balances out well, and gives EP 2 new wingers that can bring the offence vs. last year. Sprong could be swapped out every few shifts with Hoglander (Suter up to Miller's line when this happens) to keep his minutes down and respond to key matchup situations on a temporary basis. And obviously, Sprong would be a great add to PP2, he should thrive there. Speaking of which...

PP1:

Boeser-Miller(net)-Garland
Hughes-Pettersson

PP2:

Debrusk(net)-Suter-Sprong
Hronek-Hoglander

 

[McHelpus]

He always scores against the Oilers, it's very annoying.

 

[Three On Zero]

Always funny when an advanced stat dude is surprised that a player doesn’t get more usage when anyone who watches the player play with their eyes open can easily see why

Advanced stats continually prove how useless they are when it comes to players evaluation. It’s crazy teams are still trying to develop analytic departments when they are constantly proven wrong. They just don’t work for a heavily team based sport like hockey

 

[Paulinbc]

I like the signing, any move getting some scoring depth is a good one. But let's be real, other than the Detroit contract, dude's been near league minimum his entire career.
Lets see Tocc put that coach of the year thing to work and see what he can make of this guy.

 

[Three On Zero]

People are amazed Sprong signed this cheap? Dude is ass and front offices are well aware of this

For teams with deepish prospect depth, a guy like Sprong can usually be filled internally. Good offensive production but when you add in the defensive side…..a prospect getting something like 10-10 but being better defensively is more valuable.

For Vancouver this works because they don’t need to rush anyone from their already shallower prospect pool (Lekkerimaki)

 

[God]

Advanced stats continually prove how useless they are when it comes to players evaluation. It’s crazy teams are still trying to develop analytic departments when they are constantly proven wrong. They just don’t work for a heavily team based sport like hockey

Eh, teams are developing analytics that work for them. The public advanced stats are in tough because they strive for generalizability, which is hard to do when systems differ. There's also a lack of peer review for public analytics, at least from what I've been able to see.

 

[eXile3]

Advanced stats continually prove how useless they are when it comes to players evaluation. It’s crazy teams are still trying to develop analytic departments when they are constantly proven wrong. They just don’t work for a heavily team based sport like hockey

Depends on how they’re used. But if you’re making decisions based off them instead of the actual game tape it’s not a good use for them.

 

[Three On Zero]

Eh, teams are developing analytics that work for them. The public advanced stats are in tough because they strive for generalizability, which is hard to do when systems differ. There's also a lack of peer review for public analytics, at least from what I've been able to see.

Fair, I am sure the internal analytics are a little more developed than what we see.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I love this board. You guys get a 4th liner who can put up points while being atrocious defensively and all of a sudden you think you have something special.


LOL