Confirmed with Link: [VAN/DET] Canucks acquire D Filip Hronek, 4th in ‘23 for NYI 1st (condt’l), 2023 2nd

[logan5]

Ooooh we have a 1st round pick coming in on an ELC still. Not like that's something that every team automatically gets or anything lol! They don't get any credit for being 7th last in the standings and BUYING at the deadline, but at least possessing their own 1st round pick. They're the only team in the league that seems to think that's a good enough stance at the draft given the position they're in as a team. Every other team in the same position keeps all their picks, especially for a draft like this one, and gets a haul to set themselves up for the future. Not the Canucks apparently. We should just be happy they have their own 1st!

You realize that NO other team in the position the Canucks are in thinks this way right?

We have differing opinions on what position the Canucks are in. Name some teams that are in the same position as the Canucks.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Only way to improve my current mood is if they trade away boeser for picks, sign Livingstone(and other college free agents), and absolutely luck out in the draft/make a good pick.

 

[Jay26]

I'll wait and see how Hronek plays before i melt down. I can understand why fans are annoyed but you gotta imagine they are trying to do what they can to be competitive to please Petterson and Hughes. I don't think either of them would like to wait for them to draft players and for said draft players to become quality NHL'ers to compete . Would prob lose both of them in the process.

If this is what Pettersson and Hughes want then they're equal morons because this team will no different than the Edmonton Oilers if they keep operating this way. McDavid and Draisaitl are unreal but the team keeps treading water because there's no foundation. Even a player like McDavid isn't a foundation because no one or two players can be a foundation.

 

[Diamonddog01]

JTM was the best trade this organization made since the Luongo trade.

If JB didn't absolutely blunder everything else (Juolevi, Virtanen, OEL, Rousell, Beagle, Eriksson, Myers, Dickinson, etc.), Canucks could have been a legitimate Cup contender.



Man.. it's tough to think critically and have patience.

It's easier to just whine and cry.

God forbid someone has an opposing opinion... guess they're just obnoxious boomers.

Only one I see whining is you tbh. Well having a hissy fit is probably more accurate. I’m hoping it’s your bed time soon as the adults are trying to have a discussion.

 

[JohnHodgson]

lol because it's the SAME THING THEY KEEP DOING OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

How is it toxic to simply request: "Hey maybe, at some point, you should start drafting and developing a prospect pipeline."

They build us up by adding an intriguing top 16'ish looking pick then send it along with their other top 40 pick for a 2nd pairing d-man who couldn't cut it on Detroit.

We see this same exact thing ever couple of years. Go back and look at the number of picks the Canucks have each year. They have less than playoff contenders most years and they have been near the bottom of the league for a decade as opposed to a team like the Devils who have been drafting high and well and adding picks and prospects during that same time and now are actually competitive.

When did the Canucks acquire a 25 year old #2/3 RD.... ever?

Only one I see whining is you tbh. Well having a hissy fit is probably more accurate.

I'm fine LOL. I'm chilling.

I'm neutral to the trade actually.

There's people on here/reddit/twitter literally crying and claiming they're "done" with the Canucks etc.etc.

Literally the most dramatic fanbase I have ever seen. By far.

 

[Diamonddog01]

When did the Canucks acquire a 25 year old #2/3 RD.... ever?



I'm fine LOL. I'm chilling.

I'm neutral to the trade actually.

There's people on here/reddit/twitter literally crying and claiming they're "done" with the Canucks etc.etc.

Literally the most dramatic fanbase I have ever seen. By far.

Hmmm sure lol.

 

[Aphid Attraction]

Only one I see whining is you tbh. Well having a hissy fit is probably more accurate. I’m hoping it’s your bed time soon as the adults are trying to have a discussion.

Possibly the most childish post today.

 

[JohnHodgson]

Hmmm sure lol.

I actually am.

I'm genuinely curious because JR and Allvin have said 100 times they are targeting young players to retool this franchise.

And when they execute trades that follow their philosophy, people are extremely upset?

If you don't like the direction of the franchise, I'd suggest taking a step back or go cheer for another team in the interim. I honestly don't know what to say. I myself prefer to rebuild like mostly everyone else but I'm just choosing to accept reality that it's not going to happen right now. -shrugs-

 

[Jay26]

We have differing opinions on what position the Canucks are in. Name some teams that are in the same position as the Canucks.

Any team that has bottomed out in the standings. In terms of recent examples, the New Jersey Devils and Buffalo Sabres come to mind. They've been mired in mediocrity for quite some time but they each had a few years there where they absolutely loaded up on picks and had huge drafts in the 2019/2020/2021 years. Not all those picks will pan out but the point is they didn't try to be BUYERS at the deadline .

I can't believe this even needs to be said.

 

[Hollywood Burrows]

I don't like the canucks, don't watch them, and I read this forum strictly so that I can trash them accurately if I'm ever drawn into a conversation with a coworker, friend, family, etc.

From that perspective: They addressed their biggest roster hole. They did it by moving out a surplus pick. The cost isn't completely out of line with reality. They added a guy who can hold down a second pairing or maybe compliment their star dman on the top pairing. He can help their historically bad PK. There's a chance to get him on a decent deal if they keep him off the PP next season.

Again, as a guy who wants the canucks to lose every game, prays their charter plane crashes into the side of a mountain, fantasizes about JT Miller getting hit by a bus, etc, I hate this deal.

 

[Gurn]

305 games played
30 goals
126 assists
156 points
minus -87.

 

[eviohh26]

If this is what Pettersson and Hughes want then they're equal morons because this team will no different than the Edmonton Oilers if they keep operating this way. McDavid and Draisaitl are unreal but the team keeps treading water because there's no foundation. Even a player like McDavid isn't a foundation because no one or two players can be a foundation.

They want a competitive team while in their prime. If you want to rebuild then you may as well bite the bullet and trade them.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

No second round picks in 2023 AND AGAIN in 2024.

We're all in for a wild card spot RIGHT NOW

 

[GettingYourMoms]

You guys got good top 4 guy who is as old as Pettersson, thats not bad trade except that 1st round pick. Also it would be foolish to think Hughes Pettersson and other guys would want to play for team that is not competitive relying and hoping some picks are going to pan out 3 years from drafting. You cant go full scorched earth rebuild and suck, that ship sailed when you traded for Miller and you dont have Yzerman to do his magic.

 

[JohnHodgson]

I don't like the canucks, don't watch them, and I read this forum strictly so that I can trash them accurately if I'm ever drawn into a conversation with a coworker, friend, family, etc.

From that perspective: They addressed their biggest roster hole. They did it by moving out a surplus pick. The cost isn't completely out of line with reality. They added a guy who can hold down a second pairing or maybe compliment their star dman on the top pairing. He can help their historically bad PK. There's a chance to get him on a decent deal if they keep him off the PP next season.

Again, as a guy who wants the canucks to lose every game, prays their charter plane crashes into the side of a mountain, fantasizes about JT Miller getting hit by a bus, etc, I hate this deal.

Holy shit.

Dude that hates the Canucks the most on this message board has probably the most sensible, reasonable and fair opinion on this transaction.

Well done.

 

[credulous]

We have differing opinions on what position the Canucks are in. Name some teams that are in the same position as the Canucks.

philadelphia. san jose. washington.

 

[Jay26]

They want a competitive team while in their prime. If you want to rebuild then you may as well bite the bullet and trade them.

But they won't BE a competitive team if they keep operating like this. If Pettersson and Hughes don't understand this then you go from there. It would suck - trust me, I'm their biggest cheerleaders - but for once this organization has to make the right choices. You just hope that your young star players see the big picture as well.

But again, if they want to be competitive like the Edmonton Oilers then power to them because that's what we'll look like by operating this way.

You guys got good top 4 guy who is as old as Pettersson, thats not bad trade except that 1st round pick. Also it would be foolish to think Hughes Pettersson and other guys would want to play for team that is not competitive relying and hoping some picks are going to pan out 3 years from drafting. You cant go full scorched earth rebuild and suck, that ship sailed when you traded for Miller and you dont have Yzerman to do his magic.

Keeping the picks we had is not doing a scorched earth rebuild. That's all people are asking here, for the Canucks not to trade away their futures every time they possess them. I think most people here realize they were never going to go FULL rebuild. But just keep the picks you already stockpiled.

 

[Diamonddog01]

I actually am.

I'm genuinely curious because JR and Allvin have said 100 times they are targeting young players to retool this franchise.

And when they execute trades that follow their philosophy, people are extremely upset?

If you don't like the direction of the franchise, I'd suggest taking a step back or go cheer for another team in the interim. I honestly don't know what to say. I myself prefer to rebuild like mostly everyone else but I'm just choosing to accept reality that it's not going to happen right now. -shrugs-

Nah, you're having a hissy fit because other people don't agree with your views and you are becoming increasingly shrill in trying to convince others of them - almost as though you are trying to convince yourself just as much as anyone else.

And the whole "you can go cheer for another team if you don't like the team's moves" is really, really ignorant.

I don't mind them targeting young players, within reason. It's abundantly to clear to the majority of Canuck fans, and the overwhelming majority of neutral fans, that this was not the right player to target due to his redundant skillset nor was it for a reasonable price. A bottom feeder should not be trading a first round pick in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade, period. No mental gymnastics will justify that.

If they had traded their own first for Tyson Barrie I'm sure you'd be defending it even more aggressively and loudly demanding anyone who disagrees with your views to turn in their fan card.

 

[canucksfan]

A lot of the guys on Twitter who were defending Benning moves are defending this one. Not a good sign.

 

[Hansen]

One of the critiques of the Horvat deal was indeed "how can you trade Bo and not get a top 4 d back"

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

You guys got good top 4 guy who is as old as Pettersson, thats not bad trade except that 1st round pick. Also it would be foolish to think Hughes Pettersson and other guys would want to play for team that is not competitive relying and hoping some picks are going to pan out 3 years from drafting. You cant go full scorched earth rebuild and suck, that ship sailed when you traded for Miller and you dont have Yzerman to do his magic.

Who needs Yzerman's magic with we have 'the wild card whisperer' Francesco Aquilini here and now.

 

[John Belushi]

Zero guarantees there.

The top of the draft is littered with Griifin Reinharts,Cam Barkers Juolevi's and Haydn Fluerys.

How the hell do you think the Canucks acquired Quinn Hughes?

 

[Hit the post]

Only way to improve my current mood is if they trade away boeser for picks, sign Livingstone(and other college free agents), and absolutely luck out in the draft/make a good pick.

Only way to unload Boeser is MAJOR salary retention and/or picks (*given* not received)

 

[Hollywood Burrows]

Holy shit.

Dude that hates the Canucks the most on this message board has probably the most sensible, reasonable and fair opinion on this transaction.

Well done.

thanks for saying I hate them the most, that means a lot

 

[Diablo2020]

I cant remember did Stevie pump and dump Kyle Quincey that one year to get Andrei Vasilievsky or was it Steve Downie and another team pump and dumped Quincey?