Confirmed Trade: [VAN/CGY] Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond. 2024 4th

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Say no, buddy.

 

[Petes2424]

They’re loading up in really important areas, if you can’t address the most important thing. Which is the hardest thing to acquire. A Dman who can carry play 20+ minutes a night.

If the cost is right, than it’s a win. Getting someone to take Kuzmenko in any deal, is a good thing.

 

[kris]

How does it get this far and leaked without knowing if he'll waive

Rough to ask a player to waive and then not make a trade

 

[BoHorvat 53]

So why did they trade Horvat then, just to acquire another center?

Aside from the Swedish GM getting a Swedish player angle.

Assuming Lindholm has even relatively kept up the same level of play he did when he was a Selke nominee, he fits much more better on this team. Horvat's defense was always overrated. He won't be the offensive player Horvat is, but it is what it is.

 

[Hoglander]

Flames fans were underwhelmed by the Zadorov deal, they'll be underwhelmed again in this one. Allvin gonna bend Conroy over again.

Kuzmenko, 1st, B prospect (Like 7-10 on Van's prospect depth chart)

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Just a question for Vancouver fans, is this a sign they're going all in with the murky situation of Petterson's RFA or a sign that they're trying to show him that they're able to compete with him on the roster or a bit of both?

I think they've already showed him this is a winning situation (which was the concern coming into the year)

Now I think its that alot of their key secondary players (Blueger, Joshua, DeSmith, Zadorov, Cole, Myers, exc.) are on expiring deals, so they won't be able to bring them all back. With the way things have clicked this year it could be their best chance to win.

 

[EveryDay]

If he's nixing the trade , he will be moved to another team IMO.

 

[CanMerc]

Kuz absolutely shouldn’t waive… i sure as hell wouldn’t

 

[BKarchitect]

Don’t love it for Calgary but they seem determined to try and make the most of the “window” they are stuck in with the long-term deals they handed out.

Don’t get me wrong, Kuz and Hoglander (if that’s what it is) may score some goals for the Flames. But mostly I think this deal keeps them at best in the middle of the league.

I would have gone pure futures (1st plus a blue chip recent first round type asset) but I get it I guess.

This is a freaking home run for Vancouver. They get to move useless salary (under Tocchet) and buy low on a guy who is at worst an elite 2C. Keep EP and JTM together. Still have the best bottom six in the NHL, Quinn and Co in defense and an elite goalie.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

A little bit of everything. Ultimately I think this isn't necessarily about Pettersson. They're doing this because of their cap situation; they have a window to win which I believe is defined by the contract that Hughes is currently on (because after that he'll likely be a $15M player). And there is definitely a window this season specifically before a bunch of guys get raises, whether in Vancouver or somewhere else, like Pettersson, Hronek, Joshua, Blueger etc.

Ok that's what I figured too, thanks for the kind response!

 

[dirtydanglez]

Why would this guy waive

more opportunity.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

If Kuzmenko waives, surely Calgary and Vancouver can try another route?

 

[red devil]

 

[Rare Jewel]

Because Horvat wanted 8.5M and we needed to trade him to get a RHD.

He's probably worth it. To keep Lindholm, you're looking at that kind of extension anyway.

You could've used your own first to get Hronek anyway if it was that important.

 

[VIPettersson]

Why? What incentive does he have to go to the dumpster fire in Calgary

Opportunity to be in the Top 6 somewhere. Does not mesh with Tocchet/Toccet's system.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Flames fans were underwhelmed by the Zadorov deal, they'll be underwhelmed again in this one. Allvin gonna bend Conroy over again.

Kuzmenko, 1st, B prospect (Like 7-10 on Van's prospect depth chart)

Bold of you to assume we will get a 1st

 

[Double Dion]

Calgary fans, I know Lindholm was up for a Selke nomination 2 years back but how is his defense now?

Solid. He's not Backlund level, but only Danault really is. He's an above average defensive player. He doesn't deserve Selke votes, but lots of guys get them who don't. He'd be similar defensively to EP.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

So why did they trade Horvat then, just to acquire another center?

Aside from the Swedish GM getting a Swedish player angle.

Horvat was traded for the first round pick that was used to acquire Hronek as D was a much bigger need.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Canucks fans are going to hate Kuz if he doesn't waive and they lose one of their favourite prospects instead lol

 

[Chainshot]

I will say when Jim Rutherford/alvin wants to do a trade they do it.

It's refreshing in this age of ultra-conservative GM's afraid of their own shadow.

 

[HuGort]

Good for Montreal. Canucks add big name. As Monahan next biggest name left. Many teams in west will want to improve.

 

[Canucks LB]

If ??

Rutherford and allvin basically worked two deals in one, this guy is a madman

 

[Phrasing]

Bold of you to assume we will get a 1st

It’s been rumored on Reddit to be a first round pick

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

So it sounds like it will be done either with him or without him.

 

[LemonSauceD]

He's probably worth it. To keep Lindholm, you're looking at that kind of extension anyway.

You could've used your own first to get Hronek anyway if it was that important.

At the time our first was looking like a top 7 pick. Vs trading a mid 1st.