Confirmed Trade: [VAN/CGY] Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond. 2024 4th

[Russian_fanatic]

https://x.com/DhaliwalSports/status/1752888970000949727?s=20

 

[HockeyWooot]

Bzerst isn't a B prospect at this point. He's an A prospect. I'd rather trade our 2024 1st and 2025 1st. And keep Bzerst

Brz is a B prospect that he having a far better than expected season so far as an overager, doesn't mean he's a bluechip A grade prospect though.

He's a wildcard prospect if anything.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

He was brought in to play on the 2nd line, not to play with Pettersson.

Canucks aggressively going after a 2C was one of the NHLs worst kept secrets this season

I think getting EP someone was more the plan as well as having the lotto line as an option.

I will be shocked if they don't try the two Elias's together. If Kuzmenko hadn't been part of the deal It would have made sense to unite the lotto line but now we aren't exactly flush with wingers to play with Lindholm

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Hunter Brzustewicz is a blue chip prospect, Canucks instead kept Podkolzin
not that he would have get Canucks Lindholm, but yeah.

prospects in plural, Willander and who else?, now that Hunter is gone
or do you seriously think Podz as a blue chip?

It's the right decision. Podkolzin has more pro tools and he's been developing very well this year.

He's close to playing again (already has a solid NHL year under his belt) which is exactly what the Canucks need going forward; cost controlled players.

 

[duckpuck]

https://x.com/DhaliwalSports/status/1752888970000949727?s=20

I like this trade for the Canucks - great to see a team go for it.

Rick Dhaliwal - in the link above - says Vancouver hopes to resign Lindholm. Given their cap and other UFAs, that seems like a real challenge. Even if they move Garland out, they have Pettersson and other holes to fill. Any Canuck fans care to opine?

Again, even if its a rental, I like the trade.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I like this trade for the Canucks - great to see a team go for it.

Rick Dhaliwal - in the link above - says Vancouver hopes to resign Lindholm. Given their cap and other UFAs, that seems like a real challenge. Even if they move Garland out, they have Pettersson and other holes to fill. Any Canuck fans care to opine?

Again, even if its a rental, I like the trade.

We can fit Lindholm him and still be able to give Petey and Hronek raises. Kuzmenko clears up 5.5 million for next year. Myers clears up 6 million. It’s likely they let DeSmith walk and have Silovs backup which is another couple million. And they also let Joshua or Lafferty walk who will want a couple million and replace him with a cost controlled Podkolzin.

Petey-Miller-Boeser
Suter-Lindholm-Mikheyev
Joshua-Blueger-Garland
Hoglander-Aman-Podkolzin

Hughes-Hronek
Zadorov-Soucy
Cole-XXX

Demko
Silovs

 

[majormajor]

I tried searching the thread for "brz" and "brzustewicz" to see what the early reaction was when people learned who was in the deal. Little mention of him!

Then I figured out that people were just spelling his name in every other manner possible.

Anyways, seems like a well balanced deal. It would be nuts if it was 1st+Willander, and 1st+Podkolzin is kind of lower upside. Brz is a fun prospect that could go in a lot of different directions.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Brz is basically Rory Kerins in 2022. Superficially it’s WOW LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS but when you watch him play … there are a lot of warts and question marks there. And I’ve said repeatedly that I wasn’t getting excited about Brz until I saw how he adapted to the AHL.

Nah BRZ is better. Just compare there projections on Dobber Prospects. Kerins has been on a steady decline from having a ~65 point, 2nd line projection whereas Brz is being projected a ~85 point defenseman with superstar potential. Does he ever reach that? Probably not but the potential is absolutely there

 

[Connor McConnor]

I’m talking about the quote I posted, I’m not running around reading all your posts…. Man your complex needs some psychotherapy treatment. Good luck buddy.

You responded to a post quoting another post and didn’t read what it was about. That’s on me now I guess. Good luck this year, the Canucks look good.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Kerins is a year younger than Podkolzin and has a better ppg this season in the AHL. He's trending in the right direction.

 

[HighLifeManIsHigh]

Brz is a B prospect that he having a far better than expected season so far as an overager, doesn't mean he's a bluechip A grade prospect though.

He's a wildcard prospect if anything.

He’s not an overager, he’s 19. Overagers are guys that play in the CHL in their 20 year old season. If he starts the year in the OHL next season, that’s his overage season

 

[Russian_fanatic]

He’s not an overager, he’s 19. Overagers are guys that play in the CHL in their 20 year old season. If he starts the year in the OHL next season, that’s his overage season

The thing that worried alot of people regarding his production on the Canucks board is he's a late 2023 draftee. I believe he's only a month removed from the cutoff date to be eligible for the 2022 draft.

While it is his D+1 season, it's kind of hard to gauge his production.

 

[HighLifeManIsHigh]

The thing that worried alot of people regarding his production on the Canucks board is he's a late 2023 draftee. I believe he's only a month removed from the cutoff date to be eligible for the 2022 draft.

While it is his D+1 season, it's kind of hard to gauge his production.

I totally understand that point, he’s a late birthday. But he isn’t an overager

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Lindholm will be very good for Vancouver but I'm a little surprised that they included both Brz and JJ in the deal but they didn't get a defenseman in return.

If Tanev was included, i think that is a fair deal. Lindholm just on his own for Kuz, 1st, Brz, JJ and a 4th, I think Calgary does extremely well.

 

[canuckslover10]

hunter has elite level ceiling but the likelihood he hits that within the next 3 years is unlikely and the Canucks are trying to win now, also add in the fact we already have the best offensive defensemen in the league rn and normally 2nd behind Makar it seems hunter would be redundant. Sucks losing him cause I think he will be a top 4 dman in the league but I do believe he is gonna take some time especially on the defensive end.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Btw
Kuzmenko is actually a perfect example of regression
39 goals last season while shooting 27%
8 goals this season, mostly against Sharks and Hawks, shooting %? 12.7

 

[Wry n Ginger]

Would Calgary have bruz play in the AHL next year ? How has their Coaches worked with young D?

Pretty sure he would stay in juniors for the Canucks. D petey and Lek could be joining Abby's AHL team for seasoning. Willander to stay in college I think

 

[Russian_fanatic]

I totally understand that point, he’s a late birthday. But he isn’t an overager

He's a very good prospect. It was very fun tracking him this year. Alot of compared him to Rasmus Sandin, but he was expendable considering who we had coming up in the system (Willander + D-Petey).

 

[MS]

Nah BRZ is better. Just compare there projections on Dobber Prospects. Kerins has been on a steady decline from having a ~65 point, 2nd line projection whereas Brz is being projected a ~85 point defenseman with superstar potential. Does he ever reach that? Probably not but the potential is absolutely there

Those projections are the worst thing in the history of sports fandom.

 

[HolyGhost]

in a world where cap is king, Vancouver wins this deal now in the future who knows. That Kuzmenko deal is looking bad right now and has one more year. Due to the year he is having he could be viewed as a cap dump. 39 goals last year on pace for 15? at 5.5. Vancouver gave up what some view as good prospects but only Hunter stands out to me as the prospect that has bite

 

[Figgy44]

I'm very happy with this trade. More assets than expected. Maybe not as top tier blown away assets as maybe one could imagine (ie: higher first), but more than this overall asset package is being kinda greedy. No retention? Whoa.

With Hanifin and Tanev going to be traded, flames from position 4-7 going to be wide open. Lots of opportunities and we will need bodies for Wranglers too. Poirier and Kuznetsov probably first in line for graduation, but RD, almost auto slot in. That probably helps factor in a fast track for Brewski.

The D corps on paper is going to be rough, but the pipeline doesn't have as many wide gaps now. I think this frees up Conroy in getting best assets possible for Tanev and Hanifin vs targeting specific positions now.

 

[Figgy44]

Would Calgary have bruz play in the AHL next year ? How has their Coaches worked with young D?

Pretty sure he would stay in juniors for the Canucks. D petey and Lek could be joining Abby's AHL team for seasoning. Willander to stay in college I think

There's definitely room for him in the AHL. Other than Boltmann, I don't think we have RD worth mentioning near graduating and Boltmann is a ways out. We might graduate a few AHL guys and that creates room in the AHL.

Huska is good working with young D. Based on the trajectory of our dmen, it seems the Wranglers are still doing a good job with dmen.

 

[Wry n Ginger]

There's definitely room for him in the AHL. Other than Boltmann, I don't think we have RD worth mentioning near graduating and Boltmann is a ways out. We might graduate a few AHL guys and that creates room in the AHL.

Huska is good working with young D. Based on the trajectory of our dmen, it seems the Wranglers are still doing a good job with dmen.

Part of Alvin's motivation in including Brux was to unbury him in our D depth

 

[Figgy44]

Part of Alvin's motivation in including Brux was to unbury him in our D depth

Yeah, agreed. It seems like it's a fit for both teams prospects needs wise and doing Brewski a solid.

 

[Wry n Ginger]

Has there been any Kuz radio pieces since the news broke?