Raptors Discussion: v97 Raptor's 2024-2025 - Training camp begins Oct. 1
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Man i stopped doubting the raptors management a long time ago. Although this pick was well received I always laugh when people are displeased with what the raptors FO does. I stopped talking when i thought Pascal was the worst player alive after his rookie season lmfao.
I'm so glad we can enjoy good basketball even if we can't sign superstars as easily. That's all.
I'm so glad we can enjoy good basketball even if we can't sign superstars as easily. That's all.
I have a feeling he is going to be a solid offensive guy too. No rhyme or reason lmao.
hamzarocks
Registered User
I'd love to add Monk
Still a young player and has a higher ceiling than he's shown so far
VancouverJagger
Not trying to fit in
Yeah anyone complaining really should just stop and go back to playing their PS2.
Last year everyone was crying over not taking Suggs...........that turned out ok. Pretty clear management knows a hell of a lot more than than we ever will.
Love this pick........totally fits with us and our development system. Could easily see this turning into another steal.
Never will understand people who complain about fans criticizing management. Its just bizarre. Accept it as part of the sports scene. Nothing wrong with fans playing armchair GM.
No one is criticizing fans about criticizing management. I'm being very specific to toronto's management team who has made more right decisions than almost any other front office in the league and certainly been the most competent management Toronto sports has seen in decades.
Playing armchair is cool and fun. Hell that's the whole point. Saying MU is dumb cus of barnes over suggs on draft day is asinine.
Moore's Post Draft Free Agency and Trade Intel
Matt Moore breaks down the latest rumors on the statuses of players like Jalen Brunson, Rudy Gobert, and others as free agency approaches.
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What’s the Deal with OG?
OG Anunoby was a hot trade topic for weeks in May and June up until the last weekend before the draft. Then, word started to circulate that the Portland Trail Blazers, widely reported to be the No. 1 suitor for Anunoby, started to project they were ready and willing to use the No. 7 pick on a rookie, eventually selecting Shaedon Sharpe.
Here’s the best read I have on the situation:
• Anunoby is thought to want a bigger role. Notably, Anunoby is a Klutch Sports client, and this is pretty much standard for Klutch clients.
• In related news, multiple people on the Blazers roster are Klutch clients.
• Toronto media sources, who are of course the most and best plugged into the front office, have downplayed the tension and expressed skepticism that Anunoby will be traded.
• Ultimately, the asking price for Anunoby, which was said to be the No. 7 pick, Josh Hart or Nassir Little, and an additional first-round pick, was too much for the Blazers.
Here are the key questions which I don’t have answers to:
• How much does Anunoby want out, if at all? Multiple people around the league are pretty firmly convinced (to the degree anything in the ether is convincing) that Anunoby or his camp is applying pressure for a trade. Is that just manufactured by other teams who want him?
• If he does want out, or if Klutch is advocating for him to be traded, will Masai Ujiri waver? Typically, standoffs with Masai Ujiri do not work out well for the other side.
• If this is all noise, and Anunoby doesn’t want out, and the Raptors have no intention of trading him, what generated the near-unanimous consensus from sources I talked to that this was on the table?
At this point, with the Raptors having not blinked through the draft and having the No. 7 pick on the table, I’m skeptical of a deal. Ujiri will ask a high price for Anunoby just as he did from Portland, and while Anunoby is ideal for what most teams are looking for (a long, offensively talented wing who defends at a high level), the premium exceeds a lot of what’s available.
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San Antonio, with its Murray conversations, appears willing to steer more towards a rebuild than offer a hefty salary. Perhaps the Raptors are the team that presents Deandre Ayton with the lucrative deal he covets, but Toronto could only afford such a contract by swinging a sign-and-trade for Ayton. Toronto continues to monitor the availability of several elite centers, sources said, including Utah Jazz All-Star Rudy Gobert.
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Moore's Post Draft Free Agency and Trade Intel
Matt Moore breaks down the latest rumors on the statuses of players like Jalen Brunson, Rudy Gobert, and others as free agency approaches.
What’s the Deal with OG?
OG Anunoby was a hot trade topic for weeks in May and June up until the last weekend before the draft. Then, word started to circulate that the Portland Trail Blazers, widely reported to be the No. 1 suitor for Anunoby, started to project they were ready and willing to use the No. 7 pick on a rookie, eventually selecting Shaedon Sharpe.
Here’s the best read I have on the situation:
• Anunoby is thought to want a bigger role. Notably, Anunoby is a Klutch Sports client, and this is pretty much standard for Klutch clients.
• In related news, multiple people on the Blazers roster are Klutch clients.
• Toronto media sources, who are of course the most and best plugged into the front office, have downplayed the tension and expressed skepticism that Anunoby will be traded.
• Ultimately, the asking price for Anunoby, which was said to be the No. 7 pick, Josh Hart or Nassir Little, and an additional first-round pick, was too much for the Blazers.
Here are the key questions which I don’t have answers to:
• How much does Anunoby want out, if at all? Multiple people around the league are pretty firmly convinced (to the degree anything in the ether is convincing) that Anunoby or his camp is applying pressure for a trade. Is that just manufactured by other teams who want him?
• If he does want out, or if Klutch is advocating for him to be traded, will Masai Ujiri waver? Typically, standoffs with Masai Ujiri do not work out well for the other side.
• If this is all noise, and Anunoby doesn’t want out, and the Raptors have no intention of trading him, what generated the near-unanimous consensus from sources I talked to that this was on the table?
At this point, with the Raptors having not blinked through the draft and having the No. 7 pick on the table, I’m skeptical of a deal. Ujiri will ask a high price for Anunoby just as he did from Portland, and while Anunoby is ideal for what most teams are looking for (a long, offensively talented wing who defends at a high level), the premium exceeds a lot of what’s available.
OG was at the Raptors draft party when there was supposedly a good chance of him being moved to Portland, even that night. He has been working out with his Raptors teammates frequently including sightings in both Florida and Toronto over the last week or so. While this doesn't mean there is nothing to it, these aren't typically the actions of a player who is actively looking for a way out.
Dr.Funk
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Report: VanVleet, Young moving toward extensions with Raptors
The Toronto Raptors are reportedly closing in on contract extensions with Fred VanVleet and Thaddeus Young.
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The Raptors may be active in free agency — but not at the cost of the team’s fabric
Efforts by other clubs to convince the Raptors to sell low on OG Anunoby for a lottery pick turned out to be a lot of wasted breath. And likely now in free agency, the expectation is there will be tweaks, but no wholesale changes.
Which brings us to players the Raptors might be looking to acquire. Toronto has multiple needs for its roster – size and rim protection, additional three-point shooting and secondary play-making chief among them.
It will be hard to address more than one of them using the MLE or the BAL. The most likely scenario? The Raptors take advantage of what is a buyer’s market for big men to hold the fort while second-round pick Christian Koloko develops at his own pace.
The market is such that the Raptors might even be able to secure a quality player without using the full MLE. The exceptions to that – the Milwaukee Bucks' Bobby Portis, Portland’s Jusef Nurkic, Golden State Warriors' Kevon Looney and the Knicks' Mitchell Robinson – are all expected to re-sign with their existing teams.
Two players to watch?
The Los Angeles Clippers won’t likely be able to keep Isaiah Hartenstein after agreeing to use their tax payer mid-level on John Wall and signing Ivica Zubac to a three-year, $33-million extension.
Hartenstein is a 24-year-old former second-round pick who had a breakout season off the bench for the Clippers. On a per 36 minutes basis he averaged 16.7 points, 9.8 rebounds, 4.7 assists and 2.3 blocks while shooting 62.6 per cent from the floor.
Even more noteworthy from the Raptors point of view? The 7-footer led the NBA in defensive field goal percentage allowed at the rim with a mark of 47.5, out-pacing some of the league’s most recognized defenders: Rudy Gobert (49.3), Jaren Jackson Jr. (49.3) and Jarrett Allen (50.9). Given his age, his playmaking skill – his assist-to-turnover ratio is routinely 2:1 – and his ability to defend the paint, you can see the Raptors making a serious run at the fifth-year big.
Another option the Raptors will be considering is Washington Wizards big man Thomas Bryant, who has been off-the-radar somewhat after missing nearly a full year with a torn ACL suffered early in the 2020-21 season. But consider that in the bubble in 2019-20 he averaged 18.6 points, 8.9 rebounds and 3.4 steals and blocks combined while shooting 40.5 per cent from three and 53.2 per cent from the floor. In the first nine games of 2020-21 – prior to his injury – Bryant picked up where he left off, averaging 15.9 points and 6.8 rebounds, and shooting 42.9 per cent from three.
His production fell off in the 27 games he did play this past season, which is hardly surprising given he was out for a calendar year. He may not be the rim presence that Hartenstein represents but has shown he can spread the floor well for a big, which has its own benefits. He is a former college teammate of Anunoby’s at Indiana, and shares an agent with Pascal Siakam, which is also worth noting.
Given his injury history, Bryant would seem a more affordable option – some projections have him worthy of just the veteran minimum, which seems light, but reflects him missing most of two seasons. The Raptors should have good intel on him and could likely find a deal that works well for both sides and uses only some of their MLE, giving them an option to see if there is another need they can fill with the rest.
GoodNewfieBoy
We got a guy
Would it be possible for the Raps to put together a package that doesn’t include Barnes ? So everything else on the table
Looking at the Lakers trade for Davis, it would probably be Siakim, FVV, GTJ, 3 first rounders, and a first round pick swap ?
Don’t know if they could turn around and add Gobert then? Run with
PG?
OG
Barnes
Durant
Gobert
Looking at the Lakers trade for Davis, it would probably be Siakim, FVV, GTJ, 3 first rounders, and a first round pick swap ?
Don’t know if they could turn around and add Gobert then? Run with
PG?
OG
Barnes
Durant
Gobert
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saska sault
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Id move OG, Trent, and any picks they want. Fred if we can get another point guard back but having Barnes play point forward is also intriguing.... Durant may not want to play in Canada but having his buddy Drake around and a very well respected front office and coaching staff and stability... Who knows...
Eyedea
The Legend Continues
Comparison isn't lining up for me. I understand Lonzo, Ingram, and Hart were young with pedigree but they proved little in their first 2-3 seasons and were the package (+ 4th OVR pick and multi 1sts) for a 26 year old Anthony Davis. Siakam is an all-nbaer, and FVV is an all-star, and KD is 34.
If you're trading for KD you're going to want to add him to Siakam + FVV. If OG + GTJ + all the 1sts isn't enough then it's clear that Barnes is the target and main piece. It's probably worth the risk but they'll still need to target a C.
saska sault
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Zero chance you move Barnes. He should be the only untouchable in a Durant move... Would like Siakim to stay also..
