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'There's something there, it's not just smoke': Lewenberg on Raptors' interest in KD - TSN.ca
Since Kevin Durant asked for a trade out of Brooklyn last week, there have been many trade scenarios bandied about, including some with the Raptors. What are the odds that KD could land in Toronto? TSN's Josh Lewenberg has more.
Since Kevin Durant asked for a trade out of Brooklyn last week, there have been many trade scenarios bandied about, including some with the Raptors. What are the odds that KD could land in Toronto? TSN's Josh Lewenberg has more.
AcerComputer
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Toronto is one of the most multicultural cities in the world, but somehow he managed to bring race into.
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KD would have to play with someone. Trading away Barnes makes no sense. In fact Barnes is worth more than KD based on age contract and upside. How many good years are left in the tank for KD? Not to mention his injury history.
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I think people took this the wrong way. Toronto has more Caribbean/African type culture vs American. Personally, I think this argument could be used in the various US franchises. NY to Memphis to Utah to Houston to Miami, these are all quite different urban cultures.
Eyedea
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Doubling down on the fact that Toronto only has an "8%" Black population as a reason why it's not the same as living in America is just weird though. Especially considering Durant's most reportedly sought after destinations are predominantly white/hispanic cities like PHX and Miami. But yes, Toronto is still very much a city of ethnic enclaves, and the downtown/inner city neighborhoods feature more advantageous upper/middle-class people of European/South-South-east Asian backgrounds. This isn't like a Brooklyn/Queens where the density is extremely high and features a higher % of Blacks. Maybe that's why it feels different to Chris Broussard? I'd imagine whenever he were to visit Toronto he'd specifically stay in the downtown core and never venture out to York/Scarborough neighbourhoods.
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TheGreatOne11
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Anybody not named Barnes for Durant and you jump on that.
They want an all-star back they said? Siakam plus whatever amount of picks you need to make it done.
And if he wants out at some point you basically get what you put into it and sell him for a kings ransom.
I know the chances are slim but Barnes Durant FVV together? Nasty.
They want an all-star back they said? Siakam plus whatever amount of picks you need to make it done.
And if he wants out at some point you basically get what you put into it and sell him for a kings ransom.
I know the chances are slim but Barnes Durant FVV together? Nasty.
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barilko05
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Obviously his reference points are WAY outta date. He' refers to the pre-Masai era. Totally different time. And as for players wanting out? McGrady, like Kawhi, left because the team wasn't a winner (yet) and he wanted to play at home. Bosch left to play with Lebron and Wade. Who can blame him for that? The only guy I can remember who dissed Toronto back in the day was Antonio Davis. Anybody else who wanted out left because the team was weak, or management was poor (Babcock, Colangelo). I can't recall anyone other than AD said they didn't like the city as a reason for wanting out.
Eyedea
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Yes Pre-Masai they were seen as the "Siberia" of the NBA. It was where the vets of the NBA would get pawned off to, and in some cases they failed to report (Kenny Anderson, Alonzo Mourning).
There's still stigmas surrounding the higher taxes (Jalen Rose), the winters (especially when the ASG was here), and the lack of American "" (Lou Will). When you have guys complaining that you have to open up a Canadian bank account, or that it feels like you're playing overseas, there's not much you can do to dissuade their personal opinion. It's a prevailing theme within American media that Toronto and Canada in general is foreign and might as well be another European country. But, end of the day, building a club culture like Masai has done has worked wonders for the performance of the team. Even if there are guys that don't want to come here, I think they do their due diligence to find guys that are hungry to compete.
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If they want us to include Scottie in a trade for KD then I hope we move on. The player Scottie could develop into and be here for a very long time is much better than having 4 years of a superstar who is 1 injury away from being done with basketball. I would love to see KD on this team though and I think we got some very good pieces that can compliment his game.
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Weather is a bullshit reason. KD went to Brooklyn for the lovely weather there in the winter, surely.
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How Deandre Ayton holds the key to the Suns acquiring Kevin Durant
Evan Sidery explains how Deandre Ayton could assist the Suns in a Kevin Durant trade offer and outlines several destinations for Ayton.
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Toronto has been gaining steam in the betting odds for Durant over the last 48 hours, somehow jumping from +3500 to +250. It's no surprise that Masai Ujiri is trying to bring Durant to Toronto, but if he can't land KD, could Ayton be the Raptors' consolation prize? A three-team trade involving the Suns, Raptors and Nets could make an awful lot of sense for all sides.
It’s well-known that the Raptors need a long-term answer at center. Ayton, the former No. 1 pick in the 2018 NBA Draft, could be the perfect high-upside swing from Ujiri and Co. Placing Ayton alongside Pascal Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Fred VanVleet and either OG Anunoby or Gary Trent Jr. would construct a very dangerous lineup in the Eastern Conference. And at this point, the Raptors could swoop in to land Ayton for way cheaper than expected if they were to help facilitate a Durant-to-the-Suns trade, which is reportedly KD's preferred outcome.
Crafting an Ayton trade for the Raptors doesn’t really take much to happen. Trent or Anunoby would be the centerpiece with any small expiring salaries needed to make it happen. Also, the Raptors being able to snag Ayton for one player and a future first-round pick is a home-run scenario.
Working with the Raptors’ player development program, Ayton would be in the perfect spot to reach his sky-high ceiling; that goes without mentioning that Deandre playing next to Siakam and Barnes in the frontcourt is a dream fit for all involved. You want the perfect defensive trio to stop the Joel Embiid’s and Giannis Antetokounmpo’s of the Association? Look no further than Ayton, Siakam and Barnes.
Ayton in Toronto can only happen if the Raptors are willing to part with Trent or Anunoby. If not, this is non-starter in negotiations unless they are willing to give up multiple future first-round picks and expiring salaries to help faciliate Durant to Phoenix. Maybe even young big man Precious Achiuwa could intrigue Brooklyn or Phoenix enough with the right amount of draft capital attached.
This is the best-case scenario for the Suns if they want to keep Bridges out of the Durant deal. Anunoby, as an example, slides into his spot while expiring salaries head out instead. Don't rule out the Raptors being a sneaky candidate to swoop in for Ayton because their front office is known to move in silence with no leaks in advance of massive moves.
I love OG/GTJ but sign me up for one of them as a centerpiece for Ayton.
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I would prefer Ayton to be honest. The acquisition cost and long term fit make more sense for us.
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The tax situation I get, and our "funny coloured money." But anyone with an American mailing address can literally watch any North American cable, streaming, or sports service in Canada nowadays. So you can get your ESPN on without any trouble. Plus, our public school system is miles ahead of the USA if they think their kids aren't gonna learn anything. One thing I've never gotten though, is the "it's so cold" bullshit from American players. Ever been in Detroit, or Chicago, or Milwaukee...or good lord, Minny...in the dead of winter? You NEVER hear them complaining about the weather in any of those places. Jesus...Minneapolis is farther north than all of Southern Ontario and literally every other major American city except Seattle and Portland. I'll take Toronto over that deep freeze in January any freakin' day!
He meant to say Toronto isn't 'black' enough and that Afro-Americans aren't down with living in places like that
And lo and behold
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