Raptors Discussion: v97 Raptor's 2024-2025 - Training camp begins Oct. 1
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Okay, and now what's the percent of black population in Phoenix? I'm not sure I recall it being a bastion of black culture in the US, yet he doesnt think there'd be a problem with him moving there.
It's not what he meant, it's just typical Canadian disrespect from American NBA media
Isaac Nootin
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What an absolute goof. Doubling down on the nonsense instead of simply admitting he was wrong. Is he now implying the black culture doesn't like diversity? Clown world.
Imagine a white reporter having this take in reverse. They'd be immediately reprimanded and fired.
JetsWillFly4Ever
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KD would be hella cool but please no trading Scottie.
If we could make it work with OG/GTJ plus picks then go for it but we can't afford to trade Scottie for a 34 year old KD who has missed major parts of the last 3 seasons.
If we could make it work with OG/GTJ plus picks then go for it but we can't afford to trade Scottie for a 34 year old KD who has missed major parts of the last 3 seasons.
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I don’t get the comment. How is Toronto vs Anywhere In America any different than say, New Orleans vs Portland Oregon? Or let’s say using Durant’s NBA cities, how are Seattle, OKC, San Francisco and Brooklyn the same?
NBA Offseason Intel: Latest Buzz on Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Deandre Ayton
The NBA's free agency moratorium period ends at noon ET on Wednesday, but that seems unlikely to have much impact on the Kevin Durant sweepstakes. Despite...
Even with Phoenix and Miami, Kevin Durant's two known destinations on his wish list, the Suns and Heat would struggle to surrender a requisite package for the Nets to part with Durant, while their remaining team still boasts a contending rotation. There does not seem to be any package from Miami that would entice the Nets without including Bam Adebayo. Phoenix could theoretically form a trio of Durant, Devin Booker and Chris Paul, but who else would be left?
"Deandre Ayton, Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and five picks still isn't enough to me for KD," one general manager told B/R.
The Nets have continued making moves with the goal of competing for next year's title. Trading a 2023 first-round pick for Royce O'Neale and adding T.J. Warren on a minimum salary are win-now transactions. In a world where Durant and Irving return to Barclays Center alongside a rehabilitated Simmons, Brooklyn would boast one of the more potent on-paper lineups in the Eastern Conference.
Ayton's restricted free agency appears to be the offseason domino Durant's trade limbo has most directly stalled. Toronto and Indiana have repeatedly been mentioned as looming landing spots for the talented young center, but Utah has been described to B/R as an unlikely destination for Ayton, despite the Jazz moving off Gobert.
There are still expected to be other suitors for Ayton, league sources told B/R, and an offer sheet could come soon now that the moratorium is ending. When an NBA team signs a restricted free agent to an offer sheet, the two-day window in which the player's incumbent team can match said offer can only begin once the moratorium period concludes. Signing a sheet before Wednesday afternoon would have locked the offering team into a difficult purgatory.
Only Indiana and San Antonio currently hold the cap space to give Ayton the payday he wants.
But even if an offer from the Pacers or Spurs emerges, it's possible Ayton would prefer sign-and-trade outcomes to a playoff unit over two different rebuilding situations.
That's where Ayton's offseason crashes into a Durant-sized roadblock. Any team interested in an Ayton sign-and-trade, especially a team loaded with the assets to potentially draw Durant, will hesitate to make a splurge for Ayton before Durant's situation gets resolved.
The Raptors are the most obvious team fitting that description. For Toronto to land Ayton, the Raptors would need to sacrifice valuable players or picks in a sign-and-trade that could be used for Durant instead. Of important note regarding Toronto: Multiple sources with knowledge of the situation say the Raptors are unwilling to part with reigning Rookie of the Year Scottie Barnes.
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either they're going to get a pkg of futures or a quality player(s) . don't see anyone giving up a younger star player and multiple 1sts
Pascal with GTJ/OG is probably as good as someone else would offer .
Pascal with GTJ/OG is probably as good as someone else would offer .
Don't want to trade our stability and depth for a dude who will take over the team and thinks he's larger than the logo in the front.
Stay the course -- we're almost at Boston level with our core having potential to get even better with internal improvements from Scottie and Precious specifically.
Stay the course -- we're almost at Boston level with our core having potential to get even better with internal improvements from Scottie and Precious specifically.
The packages for NBA stars are sometimes mind blowing.
I’m warming to Ayton as a long-term fit at a better cost.
I’m warming to Ayton as a long-term fit at a better cost.
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Idk that you’re left with a good enough team after that move. The key is to pair kd with pascal & Scottie so you can win now and have a bridge to the next generation. Idk what that looks like, maybe Gtj og precious and all the swaps and picks allowable. Not sure that’s enough. It give Brooklyn a competitive line up considering they can’t tank for picks cause Houston owns them. Gtj og precious around Ben Simmonds is decent spacing & provides them their own variation of the longbois especially with Claxton and O’Neal in the mix.
I don’t even care about swaps, this team with KD pascal & Scottie won’t be bad enough to be picking top 5 and this management has shown an ability to mine talent anywhere on the board that I’m not worried about swapping a bad season 10th pick for Brooklyns maybe 20th in 2026 or whatever
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It’s hard for me to want to commit max money or even close to it to a guy that has to sit at crunch time. Same reason I didn’t want rudy
Nylanderthal
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Gotcha.
It’s. fair point, but it’s not a reach to think he can grow his game.
I get that the league is trending towards long hybrid type players, but I still love me a traditional C. That FG percentage, glass work.
I was sad seeing JV go, because it’s a guy who can create mismatches.
Suntouchable13
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Probably weren’t winning the title with JV instead of Gasol, to be honest with you.
NBA is a star league. Name me one champion over the last 20 years without a bonafide top 10 NBA star.
Closest I can find is 03-04 Pistons.
Closest I can find is 03-04 Pistons.
That Pistons team won with smothering defense and physicality. They could score enough, but you were getting beaten pillar to post, and every step was contested.
It’s a formula I think the Raps can mimic, but they need a bulldozer down low like Ben Wallace to wreck people in the paint
Yeah the Wallace comp is where I lose it. This team does not have it.
Also, of course a different time, but that Pistons team had actual position players.
But I stand by the general point, if you take the last 20 years and 1 team won without a bonafide MVP candidate...well those are some terrible odds.
TheGreatOne11
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Scottie Barnes about to be our top 10 superstar my dude. I'm happy he's not in any trade discussions, Usai saying thats a non-starter, good.
I like the idea of getting that young center from the Suns, will cost a lot less assets and locks up our center position for a long time, Durant would be fun but we would be pretty gutted after.
Definitely possible on that front. But as of today this team does not have a top 10 player in the NBA. Scottie could be that, but chances are he will not ever be, sadly.
If they traded Scottie in a KD deal I would be very, very, very upset.
