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Keep or Trade - Siakam

  • Trade

    Votes: 63 90.0%

  • Re-Sign

    Votes: 7 10.0%
  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .
Wow I would say that was a bombshell comment from KD. “It’s me or them” referring to the GM and coach being fired. Yikes. What’s up with that. He really has a hate on for Nash??? What did he ever do to KD. I didn’t know he was like that. I know these players have gigantic egos BUT I thought he had some class.
 
trellaine201 said:
Wow I would say that was a bombshell comment from KD. “It’s me or them” referring to the GM and coach being fired. Yikes. What’s up with that. He really has a hate on for Nash??? What did he ever do to KD. I didn’t know he was like that. I know these players have gigantic egos BUT I thought he had some class.
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Steve Nash shouldn't be a coach
 
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So interestingly even after the garbage Durant pulled today, Feschuk says Masai and Nurse believe they can handle Durant. This indicates this type of stuff won't scare them away from pursuing Durant.
 
Maybe pitch a culture change trade to the Nets plus flexibility for a Durant trade

VV (locker room leader, heart and soul fan favorite, All Star)
GTJ (solid piece)

Ben Simmons

Don't have no clue about the Byzantine NBA trade rules though
 
StozeLeGroz said:
Maybe pitch a culture change trade to the Nets plus flexibility for a Durant trade

VV (locker room leader, heart and soul fan favorite, All Star)
GTJ (solid piece)

Ben Simmons

Don't have no clue about the Byzantine NBA trade rules though
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You still want Durant after all this?
 
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He definitely wouldn't be able to pull this childish crap with Masai. I think, when you work so hard to create a culture in your team, bringing in KD would be counterproductive.
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It's risky but this one really tests your culture. I would do it depending on the trade
 
al secord said:
You still want Durant after all this?
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Sorry for the confusion no don't want KD at their price, picking up Simmons at a price that the Nets (I guess) wouldn't find insulting, could sell to the fans as real culture change and would also give them more flexibility for a Durant trade somewhere else.

Simmons-Barnes backcourt Flynn/Banton backup

Staying lurking in the KD waters to drive up the price for the Celtics so they hurt their future for the present and we keep building I would guess is also a big part of still being in the hunt besides the opportunity if you all of a sudden can get KD for what Masai and Webster want to pay
 
Can someone ELI5 why the NBA is retiring Bill Russell's number league wide?

He isn't considered to be the best player ever and this seems arbitrary to force teams on whom he had little to no impact to have to retire his jersey. I am not arguing that he should not be celebrated league-wide, I am just confused about the decision that the number 6 can never be worn as a tribute to Bill Russell, for example.

I get that he is arguably the first non-white superstar in NBA history (and that he deserves all the tributes in the world), but retiring a jersey number across the league should be something that is reserved for someone whose impact is so universal that you cannot mention the sport without mentioning that player.

There are two other jerseys retired in the big 4.

Jackie Robinson broke baseball's color barrier (Russell broke it for coaching, albeit as a player at the time, but wasn't the first player) and was a hall of famer as the first black players (despite only being able to start his career at 28 for non ability-related reasons).

Wayne Gretzky has his retired because he is statistically the best player in the big 4 compared to his peers ever. Gretzky is roughly the equivalent to someone averaging 36 points a game for 20 years.
 
Bjindaho said:
Can someone ELI5 why the NBA is retiring Bill Russell's number league wide?

He isn't considered to be the best player ever and this seems arbitrary to force teams on whom he had little to no impact to have to retire his jersey. I am not arguing that he should not be celebrated league-wide, I am just confused about the decision that the number 6 can never be worn as a tribute to Bill Russell, for example.

I get that he is arguably the first non-white superstar in NBA history (and that he deserves all the tributes in the world), but retiring a jersey number across the league should be something that is reserved for someone whose impact is so universal that you cannot mention the sport without mentioning that player.

There are two other jerseys retired in the big 4.

Jackie Robinson broke baseball's color barrier (Russell broke it for coaching, albeit as a player at the time, but wasn't the first player) and was a hall of famer as the first black players (despite only being able to start his career at 28 for non ability-related reasons).

Wayne Gretzky has his retired because he is statistically the best player in the big 4 compared to his peers ever. Gretzky is roughly the equivalent to someone averaging 36 points a game for 20 years.
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There's some info you are missing about Bill Russell that puts him in another stratosphere as a human being than anything the "Great One" has ever done, google it. Also 11 Championships
 
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Shams Breaking Kevin Durant Trade Packages To Toronto & Boston

August 10, 2022

Shams Charania talks about all the possible trade packages from Toronto and Boston that Brooklynn would possible accept for Kevin Durant. Also how the hiring of Steve Nash happened with KD wanted him and now he wants him fired.
 
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Durant tells Nets owner to trade him or fire Nash, Marks: Sources

In a meeting with Nets owner Joe Tsai, Durant stated he does not have faith in the team’s direction, sources said.
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In a face-to-face meeting with Brooklyn Nets owner Joe Tsai over the weekend, All-NBA star Kevin Durant reiterated his trade request and informed Tsai that he needs to choose between Durant or the pairing of general manager Sean Marks and coach Steve Nash, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting tell The Athletic.

Durant stated he does not have faith in the team’s direction, sources said.

Durant and Tsai spoke in London on Saturday and sources described the discussion as transparent and professional. The meeting took place a year to the day that Durant agreed to a four-year, $198 million contract extension with the Nets and barely over a month after his initial trade request on June 30. He is now entering the first season of that extension.

The Nets have direct knowledge of the reasons behind Durant’s request, sources said, and understand that the 12-time All-Star will continue to be resolute in his stance. Durant is believed to want a change of scenery heading into his 16th season.

Across the league, people have wondered whether Durant could miss training camp should no trade develop.

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After Durant’s trade request on June 30, the Nets engaged in conversations with almost every team in the league, according to sources. But because the Nets have set a sky-high threshold for the return the franchise wants for Durant — a two-time NBA champion, two-time Finals MVP, a former league MVP and 12-time All-Star — teams have not yet been able to meet the asking price.

The Celtics, Toronto Raptors and Miami Heat remain the most significant candidates to acquire Durant, sources said, with Boston’s package centering around All-Star forward Jaylen Brown seen as a viable deal. Tsai and the Nets have made clear privately that they will take every last asset from a team that trades for Durant, sources said.
 
Who does KD think he is? If I was Tsai, I would tell him to either play or get suspended without pay until the club is ready to make a deal that makes sense.
 
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Celtics? Raptors? What team can make the best offer for Kevin Durant? | NBA Today

August 9, 2022

ESPN

The NBA Today crew offers up their most realistic trade option that the Brooklyn Nets could accept for Kevin Durant, with Bobby Marks providing hypothetical deals with the Boston Celtics and Toronto Raptors.
 
I’d do that deal. The 4 1sts will be bottom 10. Young is a throw in, OG and Trent for Durant you do all day

For the next 4 years you would be looking at a 55-60 win team
 
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