djdev
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even if they do(which is 1 of 2 terrible options for them) i believe even after january the jan 15th date he can veto any trade for a full year from they day they match.
this is gold lol.
Raptors Discussion: v97 Raptor's 2024-2025 - NBA Team
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this is gold lol.
It's so interesting that in the NBA, the team that loses the player to the offer sheet doesn't get any draft pick compensation.
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With no suitable trade offers on the table, Nets just might keep Durant - Sportsnet.ca
The Brooklyn Nets have one of the greatest players in NBA history to trade, but might not be able to deal him. Or at least make a deal that makes sense.
Two weeks after Kevin Durant rocked the NBA with his demand to be traded, the 11-time all-NBA selection remains a member of the Nets and the off-season continues to move ahead.
After a flurry of activity early in the process when some in-the-know league types were predicting a resolution to the situation in a matter of days, not weeks, it appears that a stalemate is taking shape.
You have the Nets, who have Durant under contract for four more seasons and a roster built to suit his strengths, on one side and on the other you have one of the league’s greatest players, who wants out, but has no true leverage to make it happen.
Meanwhile, the market for Durant has proven more difficult to stir up than might have been anticipated.
Teams like the Toronto Raptors may continue to lurk, ready to jump in if the Nets get itchy and the price is right, but they could be waiting for a good long time, and there’s a growing understanding that their time may never come.
Nets general manager Sean Marks has no choice but to make a Durant trade a signature transaction, one that matches or exceeds the haul that teams have received in previous blockbusters -- lots of juicy, unprotected future first-round picks, an all-star or future all-star along with a high-end starter or elite role player, at minimum.
Selling low on a player who remains one of the most dynamic players in the sports would leave a mark that would ruin Marks’ career as well as set the Nets back in embarrassing fashion.
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But the larger issue remains: The Raptors want to trade for Durant so they can contend for a championship over the four years they have him under contract, so any deal they make with Brooklyn has to reflect that.
And on that basis it’s hard to see how Toronto manages a deal that satisfies both the Nets' need to achieve the highest possible return for one of the greatest players in the game, and the Raptors' -- or any team hoping to deal for Durant -- need to maintain a core that Durant can help lift to a title.
A title-winning Raptors team would (likely) need to include both Durant and Pascal Siakam, and there’s no chance Toronto would part with Scottie Barnes, both for what he can provide on the floor now and the foundation he provides the franchise for the next decade or more.
Conversely, why would the Nets make a trade in which they didn’t get one or both of Siakam and Barnes?
The Brooklyn Nets have one of the greatest players in NBA history to trade, but might not be able to deal him. Or at least make a deal that makes sense.
Two weeks after Kevin Durant rocked the NBA with his demand to be traded, the 11-time all-NBA selection remains a member of the Nets and the off-season continues to move ahead.
After a flurry of activity early in the process when some in-the-know league types were predicting a resolution to the situation in a matter of days, not weeks, it appears that a stalemate is taking shape.
You have the Nets, who have Durant under contract for four more seasons and a roster built to suit his strengths, on one side and on the other you have one of the league’s greatest players, who wants out, but has no true leverage to make it happen.
Meanwhile, the market for Durant has proven more difficult to stir up than might have been anticipated.
Teams like the Toronto Raptors may continue to lurk, ready to jump in if the Nets get itchy and the price is right, but they could be waiting for a good long time, and there’s a growing understanding that their time may never come.
Nets general manager Sean Marks has no choice but to make a Durant trade a signature transaction, one that matches or exceeds the haul that teams have received in previous blockbusters -- lots of juicy, unprotected future first-round picks, an all-star or future all-star along with a high-end starter or elite role player, at minimum.
Selling low on a player who remains one of the most dynamic players in the sports would leave a mark that would ruin Marks’ career as well as set the Nets back in embarrassing fashion.
..................
But the larger issue remains: The Raptors want to trade for Durant so they can contend for a championship over the four years they have him under contract, so any deal they make with Brooklyn has to reflect that.
And on that basis it’s hard to see how Toronto manages a deal that satisfies both the Nets' need to achieve the highest possible return for one of the greatest players in the game, and the Raptors' -- or any team hoping to deal for Durant -- need to maintain a core that Durant can help lift to a title.
A title-winning Raptors team would (likely) need to include both Durant and Pascal Siakam, and there’s no chance Toronto would part with Scottie Barnes, both for what he can provide on the floor now and the foundation he provides the franchise for the next decade or more.
Conversely, why would the Nets make a trade in which they didn’t get one or both of Siakam and Barnes?
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Raptors Could Trade For Bojan Bogdanovic
Raptors Could Trade For Bojan Bogdanovic - RealGM Wiretap
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Bojan Bogdanovic has one season remaining on his current contract and no longer fits the timeline of the Utah Jazz as he just turned 33, meaning he could be another player outgoing in a trade.
"If the Jazz and Raptors do a trade, I think Bogdanovic would be the guy going to Toronto, not Donovan Mitchell," said MacMahon. "Just saying."
"Spicy," replied Zach Lowe.
"I've heard rumblings there," added MacMahon. Nothing imminent or anything close to it. I think he's a guy... the Raptors can certainly use a six foot eight shooter like Bogdanovic. For the Jazz in a rebuild, they're obviously trying to move him."
Bogdanovic will be a free agent in 2023.
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Nets apparently wouldn’t consider a Durant trade to Toronto without receiving Barnes in return. Good luck getting another Barnes from another organization in your silly auction, Brooklyn. No one cares.
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Nets can want Barnes all they want, their other alternatives are the wish.com splash bro's in Miami Herro & Robinson or the poopoo platter from the Suns. Boston most likely isn't trading Brown and Bam can't be sent to the Nets because they have Simmons. There is no other offer that can realistically top Siakam + Trent let alone Barnes.
zeke
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Better phrasing: "Brooklyn really wants Toronto to part with Scottie, but Toronto won't consider any deal including Scottie."
LIkely more accurate phrasing: "American media thinks only Canadian team should operate as farm team for propping up chosen American franchises."
AcerComputer
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Nets way over-valuing Durant and where he is in his career. You can't expect someone to gut their team to acquire Durant only to bustout in the 1st round the same way. Raptors are better off keeping their team as is and to keep growing what you have.
Joe Lacob Golden State Warriors NBA fined luxury tax | TSN
The NBA fined Golden State Warriors owner Joe Lacob $500,000 for violating the league's policy on publicly discussing collective bargaining talks, which included Lacob describing the league's luxury tax system as "very unfair" on a recent podcast, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.
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The NBA fined Golden State Warriors owner Joe Lacob $500,000 for violating the league's policy on publicly discussing collective bargaining talks, which included Lacob describing the league's luxury tax system as "very unfair" on a recent podcast, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.
The comments, aired on the Point Forward Podcast hosted by Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner, included Lacob defending the Warriors championship roster and league-leading payroll and luxury tax bills that exceed $340 million in the franchise's championship season of 2021-2022.
"The hardest thing of all is navigating this luxury tax, unfortunately. I went back to New York this week for labor meetings. I'm on the committee. And you know, obviously, the league wants everyone to have a chance and right now, there's a certain element out there that believes we 'checkbook win..." We won because we have the most salaries on our team."
"The truth is, we're only $40 million more than the luxury tax. Now, that's not small but it's not a massive number. We're $200 million over in total because most of that is this incredible penal luxury tax. And what I consider to be unfair and I'm going to say it on this podcast and I hope it gets back to whoever is listening. Obviously, it's self-serving for me to say this, but I think it's a very unfair system because our team is built by....all top eight players are all drafted by this team."
The Warriors paid $69 million in luxury tax in 2020-2021, $170 million in 2021-2022 and are projected to pay $181 million in 2022-2023.
The NBA and Players Association have begun discussions on a new collective bargaining agreement.
ESPN's Bobby Marks contributed to this report.
Top 8 was drafted?Joe Lacob Golden State Warriors NBA fined luxury tax | TSN
The NBA fined Golden State Warriors owner Joe Lacob $500,000 for violating the league's policy on publicly discussing collective bargaining talks, which included Lacob describing the league's luxury tax system as "very unfair" on a recent podcast, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.
The NBA fined Golden State Warriors owner Joe Lacob $500,000 for violating the league's policy on publicly discussing collective bargaining talks, which included Lacob describing the league's luxury tax system as "very unfair" on a recent podcast, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.
The comments, aired on the Point Forward Podcast hosted by Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner, included Lacob defending the Warriors championship roster and league-leading payroll and luxury tax bills that exceed $340 million in the franchise's championship season of 2021-2022.
"The hardest thing of all is navigating this luxury tax, unfortunately. I went back to New York this week for labor meetings. I'm on the committee. And you know, obviously, the league wants everyone to have a chance and right now, there's a certain element out there that believes we 'checkbook win..." We won because we have the most salaries on our team."
"The truth is, we're only $40 million more than the luxury tax. Now, that's not small but it's not a massive number. We're $200 million over in total because most of that is this incredible penal luxury tax. And what I consider to be unfair and I'm going to say it on this podcast and I hope it gets back to whoever is listening. Obviously, it's self-serving for me to say this, but I think it's a very unfair system because our team is built by....all top eight players are all drafted by this team."
The Warriors paid $69 million in luxury tax in 2020-2021, $170 million in 2021-2022 and are projected to pay $181 million in 2022-2023.
The NBA and Players Association have begun discussions on a new collective bargaining agreement.
ESPN's Bobby Marks contributed to this report.
Your 3rd highest salary belongs to a guy you traded for (who costs the team 62M a year because of their payroll)
Eyedea
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Yeah seems pretty superficial to state that they're heavily reliant on the draft when they can't build out the team any other way. Curry, Thompson, Green, and Wiseman's salaries already put them at the soft cap, add Wiggins and they're already above the luxury tax. Moving forward they probably won't extend Wiggins and won't pick up Wiseman's option, but it'll all be tied up again through raises, Green's player option, and Poole's extension.
I agree
You also don't want to play against Barnes for the next 10 yrs in your conference .
Durant won't carry your team to a championship.
Nets had 3 stars and won nothing
Nurse makes the rumour around OG roughly accurate then. Unfortunately in basketball when there are 4 other scorers on the floor, its difficult to get your shots to increase. Personally would rather have 1 of the 5 players on the court to be a strict role player. Either a 3 pt shooter or rim runner/dunker. Still think at least one of Fred or Trent will be traded sooner than later.
So he should be penalized because the guys he drafted are all time greats, and he decided to go all in for titles. But it’s not fair for crap franchises like Charlotte? Boo hoo. I get his point.
Sports in general imo need to stop catering to crap franchises and to owners who aren’t in it to win it. Sacramento has been a disaster for more than a decade, Charlotte is trash, Orlando etc etc. but hey let’s go after guys who are financially involved and willing to spend money to win cause it’s just not fair.
I was pointing out that his statement was incorrect.
He wasn't punished. GS won. People are just suggesting that spending more than everyone else takes away the "we earned it" narrative (the same critique Lebron has faced for being on "super" teams). GS was over the cap by almost a full Kevin Love.
Keep in mind that the same thing happened in the NHL when Kucherov magically got better for the playoffs.
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