Raptors Discussion: v93 | Panic level rising significantly
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Well blame your parents for you not being 6'8" and athletically gifted.
I get your point and all but you have to admit Bball players’ salaries are out of control compare to other pro leagues.
OG is the 4th best player on the Raptors and is making 18mil, 5.5mil more than McDavid, the highest paid and arguably the best Hockey player in the League. About a few mil under Mbappe, a top 10players in soccer. 18mil is top 7salaries in the NFL. It is more favourable compare to MLB but baseball do play almost double the games. But 18mil would still rank top 50 in MLB.
stickty111
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It's pure economics. The NBA makes a lot of money and they only have 5 starters. Like any league the best players get the money. And OG is the 4th best paid player on the Raptors.
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Player salaries are based on the salary cap. Salary cap is based off league revenues. The more the league generates in revenue, the more the player salaries will go up. Combine it with smaller roster size in the NBA, that is what tou get. Pointless to compare league to league salaries.
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It was the Knicks, let’s not get excited. This team is still a mess. No reason not to play Flynn right now, him sitting while all the other scrubs play is ridiculous
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It's really on people/fans and the fact they buy the merchandise and stuff they advertise. If they do not do that, these guys make a fraction of what they currently earn. Simply watching or going to games does not make them much money really, but I guess people have a lot of expendable income to spend on their (overpriced) merchandise and stuff they sell which they probably don't need on top of watching the games themselves.
Mickey Marner
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He's a rookie. Raptors are known for being extremely conservative with rookies and ease them in. That's worked and it likely won't change.
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LOL Knicks shot a historically low 3/36 from 3 and the Raps only beat them by 17. If the Knicks made 6 more threes and shot 25% they would have won. And I'm pretty sure 25% is still well under average.
Raptors 'a strong candidate' to make trade for James Harden - Sportsnet.ca
"The Raptors are almost in the same spot that they were two years ago [when they made the Leonard trade]," Windhorst said during an appearance on The Lowe Post podcast. "They have good players. They're a good team. There's probably seven teams in the Eastern Conference who could get the whiteboard out and convince themselves that they're getting to the Conference Finals."
"...I actually think the Raptors are a strong candidate to do this again. Whether or not they could execute it, whether or not they could bring themselves to do it [we'll see]."
A factor that may deter the Raptors from pulling the trigger on a Harden trade, Windhorst mused, was the contractual situation of Toronto's president of basketball operation Masai Ujiri.
Ujiri, a former executive of the year, was an architect of the trade that brought Leonard to Toronto -- a move that culminated in the team's first-ever championship. However, his long-term future with the team remains unclear, as he has yet to sign a contract extension that would keep him making decisions for the Raptors beyond this year.
"The one thing I would say about the Raptors is Masai is unsigned," Windhorst said. "Going forward, it is still a murky reason as to why he is unsigned -- whether it is his choice or the Raptors' choice, I wish I had more information but I don't."
"If you're going to trade for James Harden, you're likely going to have to give multiple lightly protected or unprotected future first-round picks. If I was Raptors ownership, I would say, 'Well, you want to trade for James Harden, let's figure out who is running this team when these picks are being traded.'"
"The Raptors are almost in the same spot that they were two years ago [when they made the Leonard trade]," Windhorst said during an appearance on The Lowe Post podcast. "They have good players. They're a good team. There's probably seven teams in the Eastern Conference who could get the whiteboard out and convince themselves that they're getting to the Conference Finals."
"...I actually think the Raptors are a strong candidate to do this again. Whether or not they could execute it, whether or not they could bring themselves to do it [we'll see]."
A factor that may deter the Raptors from pulling the trigger on a Harden trade, Windhorst mused, was the contractual situation of Toronto's president of basketball operation Masai Ujiri.
Ujiri, a former executive of the year, was an architect of the trade that brought Leonard to Toronto -- a move that culminated in the team's first-ever championship. However, his long-term future with the team remains unclear, as he has yet to sign a contract extension that would keep him making decisions for the Raptors beyond this year.
"The one thing I would say about the Raptors is Masai is unsigned," Windhorst said. "Going forward, it is still a murky reason as to why he is unsigned -- whether it is his choice or the Raptors' choice, I wish I had more information but I don't."
"If you're going to trade for James Harden, you're likely going to have to give multiple lightly protected or unprotected future first-round picks. If I was Raptors ownership, I would say, 'Well, you want to trade for James Harden, let's figure out who is running this team when these picks are being traded.'"
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Supply and demand. Your employer could find thousands of people to replace what you do. In pro sports you can't find another McDavid, Lebron, Trout, etc.
These guys are the top 1% of what they do. The literal best of the best.
Anyone who is in the top 1% of what they do whether it be in the medical field, engineering, art, music, etc will be highly compensated. Do you think the pay of the top surgeons and doctors in the world are equivalent to your run of the mill family doctor? Do you think soundcloud rappers should make the same as Drake? They both make music.
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The money the players make is a result of the revenue generated by the sport they play.
The NBA, MLB and NFL bring in much more revenue compared to the NHL and as a result the salaries will reflect that. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the MLS eclipses the NHL in the next 20 years or so with how popular soccer is worldwide and the influx of diversity in North America.
You also have to remember the NHL has a hard cap...if there was no salary cap or even a luxury tax it would be highly unlikely that McDavid's salary would stay where it's at.
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I will also point out that in entertainment, more than any other field, that these guys take home a lot less of their money than a normal person.
I think the top athletes in the world make between 90 mill and 110 mill last year. I believe most people probably take home 50-60% of their salaries, but these guys probably don't get more than 40%. That is still a crap load of money, and they are definitely not the only ones who help them earn that money (i.e. there are certain guys, who are not easy to find/replace, who help them make a lot of their money), but at least with athletes the quality of their work is not really subjective... The money they generate and the quality of their work is fairly objective. You typically are not making that money unless you are really good at your sport, and it is because of this that you are generating money for teams.
With other entertainment sectors, like music and even acting, it is a lot more subjective. There are a lot of time when brand name and marketing drives sales more than anything the artist themselves does. The Rock was the highest paid actor last year (making almost as much as LeBron) and quite frankly he is not the best actor in the world. His stuff is okay, but I would not be saying that anything The Rock does is worth 90 million dollars a year. People really like him and his stuff though I guess. Same goes for Taylor Swift, Drake, etc. Some people think that Taylor Swift's/Drake/The Rock's stuff sucks, or is not nearly as good as it is made out to be, but you can't really say that LeBron/McDavid/Trout are not some of the better players out there, and it is more or less laid out how much players make relative to the revenue they generate.
The way I look at it is that you need to be very lucky in the entertainment industry. You still need to work really hard and be talented, but there is just so much that is out of your control that hard work and talent is not enough to be successful (or at least super successful)... So you will find really talented and hard working entertainers who make less money than they should, and others who make a ridiculous amount more than they should. You need a lot of luck in every other industry too, but at least a lot more things are within your control and often not as subjective, so hard work and talent usually can get you a higher baseline of success than in entertainment. Your ceiling is often still very much out of your control though.
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Stephen
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McDavid plays a sport that doesn't generate the same kind of revenue that OG does, so the economies are different. Especially when you factor in the hard cap the NHL has implemented to keep many of its unprofitable franchises competitive.
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Is it just me, or does it feel like Siakam's been unraveling a bit since the NBA bubble? From the admission that he hadn't touched a basketball during the pandemic prior to the resumption of play to his horrible playoff showing, it feels like he's really crumbling under the pressure and expectations of being a go-to player on an NBA team.
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Everytime I turned the game on we got a foul every time we were on D. I haven't really been watching every minute of every game this season but are we that shit on D or are we just getting some shady calls against us because getting a foul on every D possession sounds crazy to me unless we're complete dog shit on D.
While I do agree that the whistle may not have gone the Raptors way against the Pelicans (and over this year), I believe it is also an indicator of how poor our defense has been. Too many guys playing 'D' with their hands and not their feet. Reactionary/chasing as well.
It's OK, to let guys drive the lane or post up without trying to swat at the ball. Move your feet, stay vertical and push them towards the backside help. They did this over that fourth quarter comeback run. But then late, the switch reverted back to reaching in.
I wonder, is this simply a lack of faith in a rim protector, from a player's perspective? No Gasol. No Ibaka. So our wing defenders are trying to come up with steals to prevent shot attempts in the paint. There needs to be trust in overall team defensive concepts.
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Nurse is full of himself. He has no clue what he’s doing. Leagues worst offence and guys like Davis and Johnson are eating up minutes, providing nothing on the offensive end. Davis has been horrible on defence as well. The only time this team can stay in games are when Lowry and VanVleet play 40 minutes a game. Recipe for disaster. Time to get some guys off the bench that can actually produce offensively. Thank god for Boucher or else it would be even worse.
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